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Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
大衛．義賽: 你身邊的每個人都有一個值得全世界傾聽的故事
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2003年，大衛．義賽在紐約的大中央車站設立了第一個故事公司的小空間，希望這個安靜的地方能讓大家訪問親友、傾聽他們的故事，藉此榮耀他們。自此之後，故事公司擁有了史上規模最大的人聲檔案庫。大衛的 TED 大獎願望是：擴展這個人類集體智慧的電子檔案庫。傾聽他希望將故事公司發展至全球的願景，並思考你可以如何運用故事公司的應用程式訪談親友來參與其中。
Dave Isay - Story collector
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
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00:12
Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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今晚，我想試著說服各位
邀請一位愛人、朋友，
甚至是陌生人，
甚至是陌生人，
00:15
that inviting a loved one, a friend
or even a stranger
or even a stranger
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00:19
to record a meaningful interview with you
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來和你錄製一段有意義的訪談，
00:22
just might turn out to be one of the most
important moments in that person's life,
important moments in that person's life,
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這段對話可能會成為
對方或是你的一生中
對方或是你的一生中
00:26
and in yours.
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非常重要的時刻。
00:29
When I was 22 years old,
I was lucky enough to find my calling
I was lucky enough to find my calling
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我很幸運在 22 歲的時候
發現自己的天職，
發現自己的天職，
00:32
when I fell into making radio stories.
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當時我投入製作廣播故事。
00:35
At almost the exact same time,
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幾乎就在同一時間，
00:37
I found out that my dad,
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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我發現我的爸爸，
那個我非常非常親密的人，
那個我非常非常親密的人，
是個同性戀。
我驚訝不已。
00:42
I was taken completely by surprise.
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00:44
We were a very tight-knit family,
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我們是非常親密的家庭。
00:47
and I was crushed.
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我幾乎崩潰了。
00:49
At some point, in one
of our strained conversations,
of our strained conversations,
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在一次正式的家庭談話中，
00:52
my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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我爸爸提到了石牆暴動。
00:54
He told me that one night in 1969,
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他告訴我，1969 年的某一晚，
00:58
a group of young black
and Latino drag queens
and Latino drag queens
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一群年輕黑人和拉丁裔男性的扮裝皇后
01:00
fought back against the police
at a gay bar in Manhattan
at a gay bar in Manhattan
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在曼哈頓的同性戀酒吧
和警察發生了衝突，
和警察發生了衝突，
01:04
called the Stonewall Inn,
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那個酒吧，叫做石牆旅館。
他還說這場活動如何
鼓舞現代同性戀權利運動。
鼓舞現代同性戀權利運動。
01:06
and how this sparked
the modern gay rights movement.
the modern gay rights movement.
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01:10
It was an amazing story,
and it piqued my interest.
and it piqued my interest.
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這是個很棒的故事，
它激起了我的興趣，
它激起了我的興趣，
01:13
So I decided to pick up my tape
recorder and find out more.
recorder and find out more.
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於是我決定拿起我的錄音機
去挖掘更多故事。
去挖掘更多故事。
01:17
With the help of a young archivist
named Michael Shirker,
named Michael Shirker,
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在一位年輕檔案員
麥克．舍克的幫助下，
麥克．舍克的幫助下，
01:21
we tracked down all
of the people we could find
of the people we could find
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我們找到所有能找到的當事人，
01:24
who had been at
the Stonewall Inn that night.
the Stonewall Inn that night.
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那些當晚去過石牆旅館的人們。
01:27
Recording these interviews,
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在記錄訪談的過程中，
01:29
I saw how the microphone
gave me the license
gave me the license
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我發現麥克風給予我一種權利，
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to go places I otherwise
never would have gone
never would have gone
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讓我能去從沒想過要去的地方，
01:34
and talk to people I might not
otherwise ever have spoken to.
otherwise ever have spoken to.
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和我從來不會談話的人交流。
01:38
I had the privilege of getting to know
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我得到了一種特權，
01:40
some of the most amazing,
fierce and courageous human beings
fierce and courageous human beings
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去了解我一生中
見過最了不起、狂熱，
見過最了不起、狂熱，
和富有勇氣的人們。
01:44
I had ever met.
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01:46
It was the first time
the story of Stonewall
the story of Stonewall
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那是第一次，石牆暴動的故事
01:48
had been told to a national audience.
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得到全國人民關注。
01:50
I dedicated the program to my dad,
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我把這個節目歸功於我的父親，
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it changed my relationship with him,
and it changed my life.
and it changed my life.
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這件事改變了我們的關係，
也改變了我的人生。
也改變了我的人生。
02:00
Over the next 15 years,
I made many more radio documentaries,
I made many more radio documentaries,
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在接下來的 15 年裡，
我錄了很多廣播節目，
我錄了很多廣播節目，
02:03
working to shine a light on people
who are rarely heard from in the media.
who are rarely heard from in the media.
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給予在媒體上很少發言的人
訴說故事的機會。
訴說故事的機會。
02:07
Over and over again,
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一次又一次，
02:09
I'd see how this simple act
of being interviewed
of being interviewed
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我看到這個簡單接受訪談的行為
02:11
could mean so much to people,
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能帶給那些人非常大的意義，
02:14
particularly those who had been told
that their stories didn't matter.
that their stories didn't matter.
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尤其是對那些認為
自己的故事不值一提的人們。
自己的故事不值一提的人們。
02:17
I could literally see
people's back straighten
people's back straighten
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我確實看見大家挺直後背，
02:20
as they started to speak
into the microphone.
into the microphone.
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開始對著麥克風傾訴。
02:22
In 1998, I made a documentary
about the last flophouse hotels
about the last flophouse hotels
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1998 年，我紀錄了
最後幾間廉價旅館，
最後幾間廉價旅館，
02:27
on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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在曼哈頓的包釐街。
02:29
Guys stayed up in these
cheap hotels for decades.
cheap hotels for decades.
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那些人住在這種
便宜的旅館裡數十年。
便宜的旅館裡數十年。
02:32
They lived in cubicles
the size of prison cells
the size of prison cells
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他們住在斗室裡，
和牢房差不多大，
和牢房差不多大，
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covered with chicken wire
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覆蓋著鐵絲網，
02:36
so you couldn't jump
from one room into the next.
from one room into the next.
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所以你不能從一間房間
跳進另一間房間。
跳進另一間房間。
02:39
Later, I wrote a book on the men
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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後來我寫了關於這群人的一本書，
和攝影師王哈維合作。
和攝影師王哈維合作。
02:43
I remember walking into a flophouse
with an early version of the book
with an early version of the book
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我記得走進一間廉價旅館，
手裡拿著這本書的初版，
手裡拿著這本書的初版，
給其中一人看有他的那一頁。
02:47
and showing one of the guys his page.
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他站在那裡安靜的盯著那一頁，
02:50
He stood there staring at it in silence,
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02:52
then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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然後從我手中奪走那本書，
02:54
and started running down
the long, narrow hallway
the long, narrow hallway
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快速跑過長長的窄廊，
高舉著書
02:58
holding it over his head
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大喊：「我存在這裡！
我存在這裡！」
我存在這裡！」
02:59
shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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（掌聲）
03:04
(Applause)
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03:08
In many ways, "I exist" became
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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在很多方面，「我存在這裡」
成為故事公司號召的話語，
成為故事公司號召的話語，
我在 12 年前有了一個瘋狂想法，
03:12
this crazy idea that I had
a dozen years ago.
a dozen years ago.
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這個想法是，用紀實作品
03:16
The thought was to take
documentary work
documentary work
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徹底改變紀實作品。
03:18
and turn it on its head.
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傳統意義上，廣播紀實
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Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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一向只是透過紀錄訪談
03:22
has been about recording interviews
to create a work of art or entertainment
to create a work of art or entertainment
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製做藝術、娛樂或教育用途的作品，
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or education that is seen or heard
by a whole lot of people,
by a whole lot of people,
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會有很多人收看、收聽，
但是我想嘗試
03:30
but I wanted to try something
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03:32
where the interview itself
was the purpose of this work,
was the purpose of this work,
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讓訪談就是作品本身，
看看能不能讓很多、很多人
03:35
and see if we could give many,
many, many people the chance
many, many people the chance
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有機會以此方式被聆聽。
03:38
to be listened to in this way.
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03:41
So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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因此 11 年前，
我們在紐約大中央車站
我們在紐約大中央車站
搭起一個小房間，
每個人都能進來訪問另一個人，
每個人都能進來訪問另一個人，
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we built a booth where anyone
can come to honor someone else
can come to honor someone else
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讓他們述說自己的生命故事，
以此來榮耀他們。
以此來榮耀他們。
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by interviewing them about their life.
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你們來到這個小房間，
會見到一位解說員帶你們進來，
會見到一位解說員帶你們進來，
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You come to this booth and you're met
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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03:55
You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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你和你的爺爺面對面坐下，
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for close to an hour
and you listen and you talk.
and you listen and you talk.
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接下來將近一小時，
你傾聽或者訴說。
你傾聽或者訴說。
很多人會想像，
如果這是我們最後一次對話，
如果這是我們最後一次對話，
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Many people think of it as,
if this was to be our last conversation,
if this was to be our last conversation,
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我會想對這個對我意義非凡的人
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what would I want to ask of
and say to this person
and say to this person
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問些什麼、說些什麼？
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who means so much to me?
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在結束的時候，
你能拿走訪談的備份音檔，
你能拿走訪談的備份音檔，
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At the end of the session,
you walk away with a copy of the interview
you walk away with a copy of the interview
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另外會有一份寄到
美國國家民俗中心，
美國國家民俗中心，
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and another copy goes
to the American Folklife Center
to the American Folklife Center
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在國會圖書館內，
04:15
at the Library of Congress
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所以你的曾曾曾孫
某天可以透過聲音和故事，
某天可以透過聲音和故事，
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so that your great-great-great-grandkids
can someday get to know your grandfather
can someday get to know your grandfather
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了解他的祖父。
04:22
through his voice and story.
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所以我們在世界上數一數二繁忙的地方
設立這個小房間，
設立這個小房間，
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So we open this booth
in one of the busiest places in the world
in one of the busiest places in the world
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04:28
and invite people to have this
incredibly intimate conversation
incredibly intimate conversation
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邀請人們和另一個人
來進行一場非常親密的對話，
來進行一場非常親密的對話，
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with another human being.
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04:33
I had no idea if it would work,
but from the very beginning, it did.
but from the very beginning, it did.
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我不知道能不能成功，
但是從一開始，它就成功了。
但是從一開始，它就成功了。
大家充滿敬意地面對這次經歷，
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People treated the experience
with incredible respect,
with incredible respect,
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許多令人驚訝的對話
就在小房間裡展開。
就在小房間裡展開。
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and amazing conversations happened inside.
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04:44
I want to play just one animated excerpt
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我想播放一段動畫，
引用在中央車站小房間裡的錄音訪談。
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from an interview recorded
at that original Grand Central Booth.
at that original Grand Central Booth.
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04:50
This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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這是一位 12 歲的男孩約書亞．立特曼
訪問他的媽媽莎拉。
訪問他的媽媽莎拉。
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Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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約書亞有亞斯伯格症，
但如你所知，
亞斯伯格症患童通常聰穎過人，
亞斯伯格症患童通常聰穎過人，
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As you may know, kids with Asperger's
are incredibly smart
are incredibly smart
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但難以與他人社交。
05:00
but have a tough time socially.
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他們通常會沉溺於某種事物，
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They usually have obsessions.
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對於約書亞來說，是動物。
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In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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這是約書亞和他的媽媽莎拉，
05:06
so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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九年前在大中央車站的談話。
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at Grand Central nine years ago.
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05:12
(Video) Josh Littman:
From a scale of one to 10,
From a scale of one to 10,
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（影片）約書亞．立特曼：
從 1 到 10 來評分，
從 1 到 10 來評分，
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do you think your life would be
different without animals?
different without animals?
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你覺得如果世界上沒動物，
生活會多不同？
生活會多不同？
莎拉．立特曼：我覺得會是 8。
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Sarah Littman: I think it would be
an eight without animals,
an eight without animals,
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because they add so much pleasure to life.
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因為動物帶給我們太多歡樂和喜悅。
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JL: How else do you think your life
would be different without them?
would be different without them?
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約書亞：你的生活還會有什麼不同？
莎拉：我可以接受沒有蟑螂和蛇的世界。
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SL: I could do without things
like cockroaches and snakes.
like cockroaches and snakes.
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約書亞：嗯，我可以接受有蛇，
只要蛇沒毒，
只要蛇沒毒，
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JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
as long as they're not venomous
as long as they're not venomous
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或是不會纏住你之類的。
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or constrict you or anything.
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SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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莎拉：好吧，我並不喜歡蛇…
約書亞：但是所有人都會討厭蟑螂。
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JL: But cockroach is just
the insect we love to hate.
the insect we love to hate.
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莎拉：是的，這是真的。
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SL: Yeah, it really is.
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約書亞：你有沒有過
對小孩無能為力的時候？
對小孩無能為力的時候？
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JL: Have you ever thought
you couldn't cope with having a child?
you couldn't cope with having a child?
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莎拉：哈，我記得當你還小的時候
有很嚴重的腹絞痛，
有很嚴重的腹絞痛，
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SL: I remember when you were a baby,
you had really bad colic,
you had really bad colic,
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so you would just cry and cry.
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所以你哭個不停。
05:46
JL: What's colic?
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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約書亞：什麼是腹絞痛？
莎拉：就是胃痛。
莎拉：就是胃痛。
然後你就會尖叫，
說不定有四小時。
說不定有四小時。
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and all you do is scream
for, like, four hours.
for, like, four hours.
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約書亞：甚至比艾米叫得都大聲？
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JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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莎拉：你真的叫很大聲，
但是艾米的叫聲更尖銳一點。
但是艾米的叫聲更尖銳一點。
05:54
SL: You were pretty loud,
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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約書亞：我覺得大家都比較喜歡艾米。
05:57
JL: I think it feels like everyone
seems to like Amy more,
seems to like Amy more,
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就像她是個完美的小天使一樣。
06:01
like she's the perfect little angel.
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莎拉：好吧，我可以理解為什麼
你會覺得大家都比較喜歡艾米。
你會覺得大家都比較喜歡艾米。
06:03
SL: Well, I can understand
why you think that people like Amy more,
why you think that people like Amy more,
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06:07
and I'm not saying it's because
of your Asperger's syndrome,
of your Asperger's syndrome,
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但我不是要說這是
因為你有亞斯伯格症，
因為你有亞斯伯格症，
06:10
but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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而是因為大家對艾米好比較簡單，
不過我想對你就會比較難。
06:13
whereas I think for you
it's more difficult,
it's more difficult,
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但是那些花時間了解你的人
都很愛你。
都很愛你。
06:15
but the people who take the time
to get to know you love you so much.
to get to know you love you so much.
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約書亞：比如阿班、艾瑞克或是查爾斯？
莎拉：是的──
莎拉：是的──
06:19
JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos?
SL: Yeah --
SL: Yeah --
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06:22
JL: Like I have better quality friends
but less quantity? (Laughter)
but less quantity? (Laughter)
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約書亞：意思是我的朋友品質較好，
但是數量比較少？（笑聲）
但是數量比較少？（笑聲）
06:26
SL: I wouldn't judge
the quality, but I think --
the quality, but I think --
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莎拉：我不會評論朋友品質的問題，但是…
06:29
JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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約書亞：我的意思是一開始
艾米很愛小婭，後來又討厭小婭，
艾米很愛小婭，後來又討厭小婭，
她愛小婭，然後又討厭小婭。
06:32
she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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莎拉：部分原因就是女孩子氣，親愛的。
06:34
SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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重要的是，你有一些很要好的朋友，
06:36
The important thing for you
is that you have a few very good friends,
is that you have a few very good friends,
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他們才是你人生中不可或缺的一部分。
06:40
and really that's what you need in life.
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06:42
JL: Did I turn out to be the son
you wanted when I was born?
you wanted when I was born?
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約書亞：我出生的時候
是你夢想中的兒子嗎？
是你夢想中的兒子嗎？
我有達到你的期待嗎？
06:46
Did I meet your expectations?
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莎拉：你的優秀已經
遠遠超出我的期望了，親愛的。
遠遠超出我的期望了，親愛的。
06:49
SL: You've exceeded
my expectations, sweetie,
my expectations, sweetie,
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因為，當然，你會對自己的小孩
有一些不切實際的想法，
有一些不切實際的想法，
06:52
because, sure, you have these fantasies
of what your child's going to be like,
of what your child's going to be like,
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06:56
but you have made me grow
so much as a parent, because you think --
so much as a parent, because you think --
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但是你幫助我成為一個稱職的家長，
因為你想──
因為你想──
07:00
JL: Well, I was the one
who made you a parent.
who made you a parent.
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約書亞：好吧，我是讓你
變成家長的那個人。
變成家長的那個人。
07:02
SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
That's a good point. (Laughter)
That's a good point. (Laughter)
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莎拉：你是讓我變成家長的人，
說的沒錯。（笑聲）
說的沒錯。（笑聲）
但也因為你的想法與眾不同，
07:06
But also because you think differently
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和我在父母指導手冊上
學到的東西不同，
學到的東西不同，
07:08
from what they tell you
in the parenting books,
in the parenting books,
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07:11
I really had to learn to think
outside of the box with you,
outside of the box with you,
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所以我有時候需要
跳出常規來思考，
跳出常規來思考，
07:14
and it's made me much more creative
as a parent and as a person,
as a parent and as a person,
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而這讓我成為
更創新的母親和成人，
更創新的母親和成人，
我會永遠因此而感激你。
07:19
and I'll always thank you for that.
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約書亞：這點有沒有在
艾米出生之後幫上忙？
艾米出生之後幫上忙？
07:21
JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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07:22
SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
but you are so incredibly special to me
but you are so incredibly special to me
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莎拉：有。但是你對我而言太特別了，
我真的很開心能有你這樣的兒子。
07:27
and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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（掌聲）
07:31
(Applause)
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07:38
David Isay: After this story
ran on public radio,
ran on public radio,
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大衛：這個故事在廣播上
播出來的時候，
播出來的時候，
約書亞收到了上千封信，
07:41
Josh received hundreds of letters
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告訴他，他是多麼棒的孩子。
07:43
telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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他的媽媽，莎拉，
把這些信做成一本書，
把這些信做成一本書，
07:45
His mom, Sarah, bound them
together in a book,
together in a book,
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當約書亞放學的時候，
他們會一起讀那些信。
他們會一起讀那些信。
07:47
and when Josh got picked on at school,
they would read the letters together.
they would read the letters together.
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07:51
I just want to acknowledge
that two of my heroes
that two of my heroes
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我想要告訴大家，這兩位英雄
今晚就和我們一起坐在台下。
07:53
are here with us tonight.
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07:55
Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
who is now an honors student in college.
who is now an honors student in college.
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莎拉和她的兒子約書亞，
他現在是大學榮譽學生。
他現在是大學榮譽學生。
（掌聲）
08:00
(Applause)
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08:03
You know, a lot of people talk about
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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很多人說他們聽故事公司的故事會哭，
不是因為悲傷，
08:07
and it's not because they're sad.
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大部分不是。
08:09
Most of them aren't.
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我覺得是因為你所傾聽的
是真實而純粹的情感，
是真實而純粹的情感，
08:10
I think it's because you're hearing
something authentic and pure
something authentic and pure
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尤其是現在，因為有時候你很難分辨
08:14
at this moment,
when sometimes it's hard to tell
when sometimes it's hard to tell
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08:16
what's real and what's an advertisement.
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什麼是真實的，而什麼只是廣告。
這就像是一種反真人實境秀的節目。
08:19
It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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沒有人會來故事公司賺大錢，
08:21
Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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08:23
Nobody comes to get famous.
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沒有人為了變有名而來，
08:25
It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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只是出於慷慨和愛的舉動。
08:28
So many of these are just everyday people
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很多參與者都只是普通人，
08:31
talking about lives lived with kindness,
courage, decency and dignity,
courage, decency and dignity,
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講述他們充滿善意、勇氣、
禮貌和尊嚴的生活，
禮貌和尊嚴的生活，
當你聽到這種故事的時候，
08:36
and when you hear that kind of story,
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08:38
it can sometimes feel
like you're walking on holy ground.
like you're walking on holy ground.
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有時候會覺得自己走在聖地上。
08:42
So this experiment
in Grand Central worked,
in Grand Central worked,
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這個實驗在中央車站成功了，
08:45
and we expanded across the country.
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於是我們拓展到整個國家。
目前，有超過十萬人，來自 50 州，
08:47
Today, more than 100,000 people
in all 50 states
in all 50 states
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在成千上萬個城市和鄉鎮
08:50
in thousands of cities
and towns across America
and towns across America
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08:53
have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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錄製故事公司的訪談。
08:56
It's now the largest single collection
of human voices ever gathered.
of human voices ever gathered.
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這是有史以來
數量最多的人類錄音收藏。
數量最多的人類錄音收藏。
（掌聲）
09:00
(Applause)
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我們僱用、訓練了上千名解說員，
09:06
We've hired and trained
hundreds of facilitators
hundreds of facilitators
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09:09
to help guide people
through the experience.
through the experience.
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引導大家講出他們的故事，
09:11
Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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很多人會在故事公司工作一兩年，
走遍全國，收集人類的智慧結晶。
09:14
traveling the country,
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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他們稱此為「見證」。
09:17
They call it bearing witness,
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如果你問他們，
09:19
and if you ask them,
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所有的解說員都會說
他們在訪談現場學到
他們在訪談現場學到
09:21
all of the facilitators will tell you
that the most important thing
that the most important thing
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09:24
they've learned from being present
during these interviews
during these interviews
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最重要的東西，
09:27
is that people are basically good.
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是人性本善。
我回憶起故事公司的頭幾年，
09:30
And I think for the first years
of StoryCorps, you could argue
of StoryCorps, you could argue
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你會覺得在選擇中絕對會有偏見，
09:33
that there was some kind
of a selection bias happening,
of a selection bias happening,
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但是在幾萬個訪談過後，
遇到了各種各樣的人，
遇到了各種各樣的人，
09:36
but after tens of thousands of interviews
with every kind of person
with every kind of person
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09:39
in every part of the country --
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在國內各地，
無論是富裕、貧窮、5 歲或 105 歲，
09:41
rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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09:44
80 different languages,
across the political spectrum --
across the political spectrum --
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80 種不同語言、跨越政治光譜，
你就會覺得也許這些人
其實都置身在某個地方。
其實都置身在某個地方。
09:49
you have to think that maybe these guys
are actually onto something.
are actually onto something.
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我也從這些訪談中學到了很多很多，
09:53
I've also learned so much
from these interviews.
from these interviews.
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09:56
I've learned about the poetry
and the wisdom and the grace
and the wisdom and the grace
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我學到了每個人心中都有
一份詩意、智慧和優雅，
09:59
that can be found in the words
of people all around us
of people all around us
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10:02
when we simply take the time to listen,
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而我們只需要花點時間聆聽。
10:05
like this interview
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像是這個訪談，
他是布魯克林的一位彩票投注員，
丹尼．帕瑞薩，
丹尼．帕瑞薩，
10:09
between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
named Danny Perasa
named Danny Perasa
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10:12
who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
to talk about his love for her.
to talk about his love for her.
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他帶妻子到故事公司，
告訴她他有多麼愛她。
告訴她他有多麼愛她。
（播音）丹尼：重點是
10:18
(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
the thing of it is,
the thing of it is,
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每次我對你說「我愛你」
都有罪惡感。
都有罪惡感。
10:20
I always feel guilty when I say
"I love you" to you.
"I love you" to you.
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我常這樣對你說是為了提醒你，
10:23
And I say it so often.
I say it to remind you
I say it to remind you
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儘管我看起來又矮又醜，
但我是真心的。
但我是真心的。
10:26
that as dumpy as I am,
it's coming from me.
it's coming from me.
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10:29
It's like hearing a beautiful song
from a busted old radio,
from a busted old radio,
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這就像從破爛收音機裡
聽到動人的歌。
聽到動人的歌。
10:32
and it's nice of you to keep
the radio around the house.
the radio around the house.
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你願意讓「收音機」放在房裡真好。
10:35
Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
on the kitchen table,
on the kitchen table,
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安妮．帕瑞薩：
如果我沒在餐桌上看到便條，
如果我沒在餐桌上看到便條，
我會覺得不對勁。
10:38
I think there's something wrong.
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你每天早晨都會寫情書給我。
10:39
You write a love letter
to me every morning.
to me every morning.
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丹尼：嗯，問題只會出在
10:41
DP: Well, the only thing
that could possibly be wrong
that could possibly be wrong
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我找不到那可惡的筆。
安妮：『給我的公主：
10:44
is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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今天外面下著大雨。
10:45
AP: To my princess:
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10:46
The weather outside today
is extremely rainy.
is extremely rainy.
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我會在早晨 11 點 20 分
打電話給你。』
打電話給你。』
10:49
I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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丹尼：這是浪漫的氣象報導。
10:51
DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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10:52
AP: And I love you.
I love you. I love you.
I love you. I love you.
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安妮：我愛你。我愛你。我愛你。
10:55
DP: When a guy is happily married,
no matter what happens at work,
no matter what happens at work,
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丹尼：如果有人婚姻幸福，
不管工作多麼不順，
不管工作多麼不順，
10:58
no matter what happens
in the rest of the day,
in the rest of the day,
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不管那一天有多麼不順，
家總是一個避難的港灣。
11:00
there's a shelter when you get home,
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你知道你可以擁抱一個人，
11:02
there's a knowledge knowing
that you can hug somebody
that you can hug somebody
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而不會被扔下樓梯，
還被罵：「把你的手拿開！」
還被罵：「把你的手拿開！」
11:05
without them throwing you downstairs
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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結婚就像擁有彩色電視機，
11:08
Being married is like having
a color television set.
a color television set.
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你永遠不會想看黑白電視了。
11:11
You never want to go back
to black and white.
to black and white.
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（笑聲）
11:13
(Laughter)
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大衛：丹尼大概 150 公分高，
11:16
DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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11:18
with crossed eyes
and one single snaggletooth,
and one single snaggletooth,
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眼睛斜視，還有一顆暴牙。
11:22
but Danny Perasa had
more romance in his little pinky
more romance in his little pinky
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但是丹尼．帕瑞薩小小的身體裡
每個毛孔都充斥著浪漫，
每個毛孔都充斥著浪漫，
甚至比好萊塢電影所有男主角
加在一起都要多。
加在一起都要多。
11:26
than all of Hollywood's
leading men put together.
leading men put together.
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我還學到了什麼？
11:29
What else have I learned?
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我還學到人類不可思議的
11:31
I've learned about the almost
unimaginable capacity
unimaginable capacity
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寬恕雅量。
11:33
for the human spirit to forgive.
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我學到了韌性，我學到了力量。
11:36
I've learned about resilience
and I've learned about strength.
and I've learned about strength.
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11:39
Like an interview with Oshea Israel
and Mary Johnson.
and Mary Johnson.
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比如歐詩亞．伊薩瑞爾
和瑪麗．強生的訪談。
和瑪麗．強生的訪談。
11:43
When Oshea was a teenager,
he murdered Mary's only son,
he murdered Mary's only son,
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歐詩亞還是青少年的時候，
在幫派鬥毆中
在幫派鬥毆中
謀殺了瑪麗的獨子
──拉瑞米爾．拜德。
──拉瑞米爾．拜德。
11:47
Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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12 年後，瑪麗去監獄
11:50
A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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11:52
to meet Oshea and find out
who this person was
who this person was
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會見歐詩亞，看看是誰
11:55
who had taken her son's life.
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奪走她兒子性命。
雖然很慢，但驚人的是，
他們成為了朋友。
他們成為了朋友。
11:58
Slowly and remarkably,
they became friends,
they became friends,
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歐詩亞出獄之後
12:01
and when he was finally released
from the penitentiary,
from the penitentiary,
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12:03
Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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就搬到瑪麗隔壁，當她的鄰居。
這段簡短的訪談節錄自
12:07
This is just a short excerpt
of a conversation they had
of a conversation they had
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歐詩亞剛被釋放的時候。
12:10
soon after Oshea was freed.
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（播音）瑪麗．強生：
我的親兒子已經不在了。
我的親兒子已經不在了。
12:14
(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
is no longer here.
is no longer here.
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我沒機會看他畢業，
但現在你要去上大學了，
但現在你要去上大學了，
12:17
I didn't see him graduate,
and now you're going to college.
and now you're going to college.
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12:20
I'll have the opportunity
to see you graduate.
to see you graduate.
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我會有機會看到你畢業。
我沒有看到他結婚，
12:24
I didn't see him get married.
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12:26
Hopefully one day, I'll be able
to experience that with you.
to experience that with you.
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但是，我希望，
有一天我可以看到你結婚。
有一天我可以看到你結婚。
12:30
Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
say those things and to be
say those things and to be
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歐詩亞．伊薩瑞爾：
你剛剛所說的話，
你剛剛所說的話，
和你在我生命中扮演的角色，
都深深激勵著我。
都深深激勵著我。
12:33
in my life in the manner
in which you are is my motivation.
in which you are is my motivation.
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12:36
It motivates me to make sure
that I stay on the right path.
that I stay on the right path.
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它激勵我讓我走在人生的正軌上。
12:41
You still believe in me,
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儘管我帶給你極大的痛苦，
12:43
and the fact that you can do it
despite how much pain I caused you,
despite how much pain I caused you,
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你一直信任著我，
真是不可思議。
12:47
it's amazing.
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瑪麗：我知道對我們兩個來說
分享彼此的故事，
分享彼此的故事，
12:49
MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
to be able to share our story together,
to be able to share our story together,
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甚至只是靜靜坐在這裡看對方，
都不是件容易的事。
都不是件容易的事。
12:55
even with us sitting here
looking at each other right now.
looking at each other right now.
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I know it's not an easy thing,
so I admire that you can do this.
so I admire that you can do this.
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所以我很佩服你能夠和我坐在這裡。
13:03
OI: I love you, lady.
MJ: I love you too, son.
MJ: I love you too, son.
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歐詩亞：我愛你，女士。
瑪麗：我也愛你，孩子。
瑪麗：我也愛你，孩子。
（掌聲）
13:12
(Applause)
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大衛：我一次又一次
看到人們的善良和勇氣，
看到人們的善良和勇氣，
13:18
DI: And I've been reminded countless times
of the courage and goodness of people,
of the courage and goodness of people,
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13:23
and how the arc of history
truly does bend towards justice.
truly does bend towards justice.
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還有歷史的天平是如何
傾向正義的那一邊。
傾向正義的那一邊。
13:28
Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
who was born Arthur Martinez
who was born Arthur Martinez
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就像出生在芝加哥
哈羅德．伊克斯計畫區，
哈羅德．伊克斯計畫區，
原名是亞瑟的亞里斯．馬丁尼茲。
13:33
in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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13:35
In the interview, she talks
with her daughter Lesley
with her daughter Lesley
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在她的訪談中，她告訴女兒雷思麗
她年輕時以男兒身加入黑社會，
13:38
about joining a gang as a young man,
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並且後來變成自己理想中的女人。
13:40
and later in life transitioning
into the woman she was always meant to be.
into the woman she was always meant to be.
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13:45
This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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這是亞里斯和她的女兒雷思麗。
13:48
(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
difficult things for me was
difficult things for me was
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（播音）亞里斯．馬丁尼茲：
對於我來說非常困難的是
對於我來說非常困難的是
13:51
I was always afraid that
I wouldn't be allowed
I wouldn't be allowed
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我一直恐懼有一天你們會不准我
13:54
to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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和孫女一起生活，
因為你和你的丈夫
13:57
and you blew that completely
out of the water,
out of the water,
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讓我的願望徹底破滅了。
13:59
you and your husband.
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14:00
One of the fruits of that is,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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惡果之一就是我和孫女們的關係，
她們會和對方爭吵，
爭辯我到底是男的還是女的。
爭辯我到底是男的還是女的。
14:04
they fight with each other sometimes
over whether I'm he or she.
over whether I'm he or she.
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14:07
Lesley Martinez: But they're free
to talk about it.
to talk about it.
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雷思麗：但是她們可以討論這個。
亞里斯：她們可以討論，
但那對我來說是個奇跡。
但那對我來說是個奇跡。
14:10
AM: They're free to talk about it,
but that, to me, is a miracle.
but that, to me, is a miracle.
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雷思麗：你不用道歉，
你不用小心翼翼。
你不用小心翼翼。
14:13
LM: You don't have to apologize.
You don't have to tiptoe.
You don't have to tiptoe.
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我們不會把你拒之門外，
14:16
We're not going to cut you off,
and that's something I've always
and that's something I've always
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我一直想讓你知道，我們都愛你。
14:21
wanted you to just know,
that you're loved.
that you're loved.
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亞里斯：你知道，
我每天就這樣過生活。
我每天就這樣過生活。
14:24
AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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14:26
I walk down the streets as a woman,
and I really am at peace with who I am.
and I really am at peace with who I am.
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我每天用女人的身分在街上行走，
很平靜的做我自己。
很平靜的做我自己。
14:31
I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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不過我希望能有更溫柔的聲音，
但是我現在被愛環繞著，
我希望能一直這樣下去。
我希望能一直這樣下去。
14:34
but now I walk in love
and I try to live that way every day.
and I try to live that way every day.
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14:43
DI: Now I walk in love.
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大衛：現在我被愛環繞著。
我想告訴你們一個故事公司的秘密。
14:46
I'm going to tell you
a secret about StoryCorps.
a secret about StoryCorps.
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14:49
It takes some courage
to have these conversations.
to have these conversations.
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這些對話需要一些勇氣。
故事公司訴說我們的命運。
14:53
StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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14:55
Participants know this recording
will be heard long after they're gone.
will be heard long after they're gone.
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參與者知道很多人會聽這些錄音，
哪怕他們已經不在了。
哪怕他們已經不在了。
14:59
There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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臨終關懷醫生艾若．拜克
幫助我們錄下
15:02
who has worked closely with us
on recording interviews
on recording interviews
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很多臨終病人的訪談。
15:04
with people who are dying.
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他的著作《四件最重要的事情》
15:06
He wrote a book called
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
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是關於四件你最想告訴
你生命中最重要的人的事情，
你生命中最重要的人的事情，
15:09
about the four things you want to say
to the most important people in your life
to the most important people in your life
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在他們或者你離開這個世界之前：
15:12
before they or you die:
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謝謝你、我愛你、
15:15
thank you, I love you,
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請原諒我、我原諒你了。
15:18
forgive me, I forgive you.
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15:21
They're just about the most powerful words
we can say to one another,
we can say to one another,
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這些是我們能說出最有力量的話語，
15:25
and often that's what happens
in a StoryCorps booth.
in a StoryCorps booth.
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也通常是在故事公司的小房間裡
最常被說的話。
最常被說的話。
15:28
It's a chance to have a sense of closure
with someone you care about --
with someone you care about --
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這是一個對你關心的人
表達心意的機會，
表達心意的機會，
讓你沒有遺憾、沒有未說出口的話。
15:32
no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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但是這很困難，而且需要勇氣。
15:34
And it's hard and it takes courage,
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但這就是為什麼我們活著，不是嗎？
15:38
but that's why we're alive, right?
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關於這個 TED 大獎，
15:43
So, the TED Prize.
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15:45
When I first heard from TED
and Chris a few months ago
and Chris a few months ago
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幾個月前我第一次接到
TED 和克里斯的通知，
TED 和克里斯的通知，
15:48
about the possibility of the Prize,
I was completely floored.
I was completely floored.
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他們說我有機會獲得 TED 大獎，
我大吃一驚。
我大吃一驚。
15:52
They asked me to come up
with a very brief wish for humanity,
with a very brief wish for humanity,
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他們請我為全人類
許一個非常簡短的願望，
許一個非常簡短的願望，
少於 50 個字。
15:56
no more than 50 words.
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所以我思考了一下，
寫了 50 個字。
寫了 50 個字。
15:57
So I thought about it,
I wrote my 50 words,
I wrote my 50 words,
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16:00
and a few weeks later,
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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幾週之後，克里斯
打電話給我說：「去做吧！」
打電話給我說：「去做吧！」
16:05
So here is my wish:
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我的願望是：
16:08
that you will help us
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你會幫助我們
將我們從故事公司學到的所有東西
16:11
take everything we've learned
through StoryCorps
through StoryCorps
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16:14
and bring it to the world
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傳播到世界的每一個角落，
16:16
so that anyone anywhere
can easily record a meaningful interview
can easily record a meaningful interview
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所以任何人在任何地方
都能輕易錄下
都能輕易錄下
16:20
with another human being
which will then be archived for history.
which will then be archived for history.
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和另一個人的訪談，
這份音檔會在史上留存。
這份音檔會在史上留存。
16:25
How are we going to do that? With this.
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我們要怎麼做？
用這個東西。
用這個東西。
16:30
We're fast moving into a future
where everyone in the world
where everyone in the world
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我們快速邁向的未來世界
是每個人都能輕易取得手機的世界，
16:34
will have access to one of these,
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16:36
and it has powers I never
could have imagined 11 years ago
could have imagined 11 years ago
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而且它擁有的力量
是 11 年前我剛創辦故事公司的時候
無法想像的。
無法想像的。
16:39
when I started StoryCorps.
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16:41
It has a microphone,
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它有一個麥克風，
16:43
it can tell you how to do things,
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來告訴你怎麼做，
16:45
and it can send audio files.
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也可以傳送音檔。
16:48
Those are the key ingredients.
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這些就是最重要的組成部分。
16:50
So the first part of the wish
is already underway.
is already underway.
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因此我的願望的第一部分
已經開始進行了。
已經開始進行了。
16:53
Over the past couple of months,
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在過去的幾個月裡，
16:55
the team at StoryCorps
has been working furiously
has been working furiously
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故事公司的員工努力工作，
16:58
to create an app that will bring
StoryCorps out of our booths
StoryCorps out of our booths
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為了開發出一款應用程式，
讓故事公司突破小房間的限制，
讓故事公司突破小房間的限制，
17:01
so that it can be experienced
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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所以每個人可以在任何地方、
任何時間來記錄他們的故事。
任何時間來記錄他們的故事。
17:07
Remember, StoryCorps has always
been two people and a facilitator
been two people and a facilitator
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記住，故事公司一直都只有
兩名員工和一名解說員
兩名員工和一名解說員
17:10
helping them record their conversation,
which is preserved forever,
which is preserved forever,
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幫大家記錄他們的對話，
這段話會永遠保存下來，
這段話會永遠保存下來，
17:14
but at this very moment,
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但是在這個時候，
17:16
we're releasing a public beta version
of the StoryCorps app.
of the StoryCorps app.
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我們會發布一款故事公司的
大眾版應用程式，
大眾版應用程式，
17:20
The app is a digital facilitator
that walks you through
that walks you through
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這個程式就是一個電子解說員
幫助你練習故事公司的訪談過程、
17:23
the StoryCorps interview process,
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17:26
helps you pick questions,
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選擇問題、
17:27
and gives you all the tips you need
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給予你所有的指導，
17:29
to record a meaningful
StoryCorps interview,
StoryCorps interview,
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讓你記錄一段有意義的訪談，
17:32
and then with one tap upload it
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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然後點一下就能上傳到
我們在國會圖書館的檔案處。
我們在國會圖書館的檔案處。
17:38
That's the easy part, the technology.
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技術方面是很簡單的。
17:41
The real challenge is up to you:
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真正困難的部分是你自己：
17:43
to take this tool and figure out
how we can use it
how we can use it
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找出我們可以怎麼讓這項工具
17:46
all across America and around the world,
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推廣到全美、全世界，
17:49
so that instead of recording
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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如此一來，我們每年
不只能錄幾千則訪談，
不只能錄幾千則訪談，
17:53
we could potentially record
tens of thousands
tens of thousands
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我們有機會能錄製幾萬、
幾十萬，
17:56
or hundreds of thousands
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甚至更多則故事。
17:58
or maybe even more.
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請想像也許有一項
遍行全國的家庭作業，
遍行全國的家庭作業，
18:01
Imagine, for example,
a national homework assignment
a national homework assignment
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每一位學習美國歷史的中學生
18:05
where every high school student
studying U.S. history across the country
studying U.S. history across the country
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18:09
records an interview
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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都要在感恩節那天
錄製對長輩的訪談，
錄製對長輩的訪談，
所以在一個週末裡，
18:11
so that in one single weekend
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美國一整個世代的生活和經驗
就這樣記載下來了。
就這樣記載下來了。
18:14
an entire generation of American lives
and experiences are captured.
and experiences are captured.
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（掌聲）
18:19
(Applause)
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或者想像在地球某個角落
爭吵的母親，
爭吵的母親，
18:27
Or imagine mothers on opposite
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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18:31
sitting down not to talk
about that conflict
about that conflict
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坐下來不是談論那件衝突的事，
而是找出她們身而為人的價值，
18:34
but to find out who they are as people,
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並且透過這種方式，
建立起信任的橋樑；
建立起信任的橋樑；
18:37
and in doing so,
begin to build bonds of trust;
begin to build bonds of trust;
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也許有一天，這件事
會成為全世界的一種傳統，
會成為全世界的一種傳統，
18:41
or that someday it becomes
a tradition all over the world
a tradition all over the world
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18:44
that people are honored
with a StoryCorps interview
with a StoryCorps interview
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大家在 75 歲生日那天
透過接受故事公司的訪談
而獲得榮耀；
而獲得榮耀；
18:46
on their 75th birthday;
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18:48
or that people in your community
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或是你的社群夥伴
18:51
go into retirement homes or hospitals
or homeless shelters or even prisons
or homeless shelters or even prisons
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在養老院、醫院、
收容所，甚至是監獄裡，
收容所，甚至是監獄裡，
拿著這個應用程式，表彰這些
社會上少有機會發聲的人群，
社會上少有機會發聲的人群，
18:56
armed with this app to honor the people
least heard in our society
least heard in our society
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18:59
and ask them who they are,
what they've learned in life,
what they've learned in life,
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問他們是誰、
他們在生活中學到了什麼，
他們在生活中學到了什麼，
19:02
and how they want to be remembered.
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他們想如何被銘記。
19:05
(Applause)
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十年前，我和父親錄製了
一段故事公司的訪談，
一段故事公司的訪談，
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Ten years ago, I recorded
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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who was a psychiatrist,
and became a well-known gay activist.
and became a well-known gay activist.
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他是精神病學家，
也是知名的同性戀支持者，
也是知名的同性戀支持者，
這是我們談話時的照片。
19:21
This is the picture
of us at that interview.
of us at that interview.
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I never thought about that recording
until a couple of years ago,
until a couple of years ago,
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我從未想過要這樣做，
直到幾年前，
直到幾年前，
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when my dad, who seemed
to be in perfect health
to be in perfect health
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當時我爸看起來很健康，
每週還看診 40 小時，
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and was still seeing patients
40 hours a week,
40 hours a week,
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卻被診斷出得了癌症。
19:33
was diagnosed with cancer.
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幾天後他突然病逝。
19:35
He passed away very suddenly
a few days later.
a few days later.
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It was June 28, 2012,
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那天是 2012 年 6 月 28 日，
石牆暴動紀念日。
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the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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我第一次聽那段錄音
是在他去世那天，
是在他去世那天，
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I listened to that interview
for the first time at three in the morning
for the first time at three in the morning
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on the day that he died.
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凌晨三點鐘。
我家有幾個小孩，
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I have a couple of young kids at home,
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and I knew that the only way
they were going to get to know this person
they were going to get to know this person
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我知道唯一讓他們認識
這個我生命中意義非凡的人的方法，
就是聽我們談話。
就是聽我們談話。
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who was such a towering figure in my life
would be through that session.
would be through that session.
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在那之前，我以為
我對故事公司的信仰已到極限，
我對故事公司的信仰已到極限，
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I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
any more deeply than I did,
any more deeply than I did,
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但就在那一瞬間，
20:05
but it was at that moment
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that I fully and viscerally grasped
the importance of making these recordings.
the importance of making these recordings.
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我發自肺腑的感受到
製作這些錄音的重要性。
製作這些錄音的重要性。
每天都有人來找我，
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Every day, people come up to me
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and say, "I wish I had interviewed
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
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對我說：「 我希望早就
訪問過我爸爸、祖母或哥哥了，
訪問過我爸爸、祖母或哥哥了，
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but I waited too long."
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但是我等太久了。」
現在，沒人需要等待。
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Now, no one has to wait anymore.
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At this moment,
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在此時此刻，
20:24
when so much of how we communicate
is fleeting and inconsequential,
is fleeting and inconsequential,
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當我們不再珍惜
轉瞬即逝的交流的時刻，
轉瞬即逝的交流的時刻，
加入我們，為那些重要的訪談
20:27
join us in creating this digital archive
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of conversations that are
enduring and important.
enduring and important.
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製作能長久保存的電子檔案庫，
20:34
Help us create this gift to our children,
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幫我們為後代創造這個禮物，
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this testament to who
we are as human beings.
we are as human beings.
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證明身為人類的我們是誰。
我希望你們能幫我實現這個願望。
20:41
I hope you'll help us make
this wish come true.
this wish come true.
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訪談一位家人、朋友，甚至是陌生人。
20:45
Interview a family member, a friend
or even a stranger.
or even a stranger.
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Together, we can create an archive
of the wisdom of humanity,
of the wisdom of humanity,
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同心協力，我們就能創造
記錄人類智慧的檔案庫。
記錄人類智慧的檔案庫。
也許透過這個方式，
20:56
and maybe in doing so,
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we'll learn to listen a little more
and shout a little less.
and shout a little less.
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我們能學會聆聽，少點責罵。
21:01
Maybe these conversations will remind us
what's really important.
what's really important.
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也許這些對話能提醒我們
什麼才是最重要的。
什麼才是最重要的。
21:06
And maybe, just maybe,
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也許，只是也許，
會幫助我們看清簡單明瞭的事實，
21:08
it will help us recognize
that simple truth
that simple truth
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那就是每個生命，每一個生命
21:11
that every life, every single life,
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matters equally and infinitely.
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都是平等且有無限的價值。
謝謝。
21:18
Thank you very much.
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（掌聲）
21:20
(Applause)
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21:22
Thank you. Thank you.
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謝謝，謝謝。
（掌聲）
21:27
(Applause)
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21:29
Thank you.
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謝謝。
21:31
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dave Isay - Story collectorOver thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all.
Why you should listen
From the first interview he recorded, 2015 TED Prize winner and MacArthur Fellow Dave Isay knew he’d found his calling: preserving the stories of everyday Americans. Since then, Isay has amassed hundreds of thousands of recordings, most of previously unheard or ignored voices, all speaking in their own words. The archives of StoryCorps -- which Isay founded in 2003 -- are included at the Library of Congress’ American Folklife Center, and now constitute the largest single collection of recorded voices in history.
StoryCorps invites friends, loved ones and strangers to conduct 40-minute interviews at intimate recording booths in Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, and (until 2011) New York, as well as in mobile studios nationwide. Offering moving and surprising glimpses into the hearts of often marginalized and forgotten subjects, the interviews are a familiar feature of NPR’s Morning Edition and Storycorps.org.
At TED2015, Isay shared an audacious wish for StoryCorps: to open up the format from its signature booths with a StoryCorps app that allows anyone to add to this "digital archive of the collective wisdom of humanity." The vision: to broaden this idea, and begin to take it global.
Dave Isay | Speaker | TED.com