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Billie Jean King: This tennis icon paved the way for women in sports
比利·简·金: 为女子运动员铺平道路的网球偶像
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网坛传奇比利·简·金不仅仅是女子网球运动的先驱，还是争取女子有偿劳动的先驱。在这次轻松随性的交谈中，她讲述了有关身份认同，有关体育在社会公正中扮演的角色，以及那场著名的、对战博比·里格斯的性别大战。
Billie Jean King - Tennis legend and activist
Billie Jean King won 39 Grand Slam titles during her tennis career, and has long been a pioneer for equality and social justice. Full bio
Billie Jean King won 39 Grand Slam titles during her tennis career, and has long been a pioneer for equality and social justice. Full bio
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00:13
Billie Jean King: Hi, everyone!
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比利·简·金：嗨，大家好！
00:16
(Applause)
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（掌声）
00:18
Thanks, Pat.
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谢谢你，帕特。
00:19
Thank you!
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谢谢大家！
00:23
Getting me all wound up, now!
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我都有点热血沸腾了！
00:25
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
00:26
Pat Mitchell: Good!
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帕特·米切尔：那很好！
00:28
You know, when I was watching
the video again of the match,
the video again of the match,
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你知道吗，当我再次看那场比赛的视频时，
00:32
you must have felt
like the fate of the world's women
like the fate of the world's women
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感觉好像全世界妇女的命运
00:37
was on every stroke you took.
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都与你的每一次挥拍联系在了一起。
00:40
Were you feeling that?
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你是这么想的吗？
00:42
BJK: First of all, Bobby Riggs --
he was the former number one player,
he was the former number one player,
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BJK：首先，博比·里格斯，
他是前世界排名第一的选手，
他是前世界排名第一的选手，
他是有实力的，不靠投机取巧。
00:46
he wasn't just some hacker, by the way.
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他是我的偶像之一，我很欣赏他。
00:48
He was one of my heroes and I admired him.
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00:51
And that's the reason I beat him,
actually, because I respected him.
actually, because I respected him.
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所以我才要击败他，因为我很尊重他。
（笑声）
00:55
(Laughter)
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真的，我父母，尤其是我父亲经常说：
00:56
It's true -- my mom
and especially my dad always said:
and especially my dad always said:
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“尊重你的对手，永远不要低估他们。”
00:59
"Respect your opponent,
and never underestimate them, ever."
and never underestimate them, ever."
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01:02
And he was correct.
He was absolutely correct.
He was absolutely correct.
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他说的很对，非常对。
01:05
But I knew it was about social change.
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但我也知道这（场比赛）
关系到一场社会变革。
关系到一场社会变革。
01:08
And I was really nervous
whenever we announced it,
whenever we announced it,
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当时每次一提到这个我都会非常紧张，
01:12
and I felt like the whole world
was on my shoulders.
was on my shoulders.
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而且我觉得负担很重，压力很大。
01:15
And I thought, "If I lose, it's going
to put women back 50 years, at least."
to put women back 50 years, at least."
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当时我想，“如果我输了，
妇女的地位会至少后退50年。”
妇女的地位会至少后退50年。”
01:20
Title IX had just been passed
the year before -- June 23, 1972.
the year before -- June 23, 1972.
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当时，（教育法修正案）第九条
刚刚在1972年6月23日通过。
刚刚在1972年6月23日通过。
01:25
And women's professional tennis --
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而女子职业网球——
01:28
there were nine of us who signed
a one-dollar contract in 1970 --
a one-dollar contract in 1970 --
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当时我们有9名女子运动员
在1970年签了合同，价值1美元——
在1970年签了合同，价值1美元——
01:31
now remember, the match is in '73.
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请记住，那场比赛是在73年举行的。
01:34
So we were only in our
third year of having a tour
third year of having a tour
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所以女子职业巡回赛开始才三年，
01:37
where we could actually play,
have a place to compete and make a living.
have a place to compete and make a living.
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我们刚刚能打上比赛，
能靠比赛来养活自己。
能靠比赛来养活自己。
01:41
So there were nine of us that signed
that one-dollar contract.
that one-dollar contract.
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所以我们9个签了1美元的合同。
01:44
And our dream was for any girl,
born any place in the world --
born any place in the world --
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我们的梦想是，让每一个姑娘，
无论她出生在哪里，
无论她出生在哪里，
01:49
if she was good enough --
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只要她足够优秀，
01:51
there would be a place for her to compete
and for us to make a living.
and for us to make a living.
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就能找到自己的舞台，就能养活自己。
01:55
Because before 1968,
we made 14 dollars a day,
we made 14 dollars a day,
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因为在1968年之前，
我们每天只能挣到14美元，
我们每天只能挣到14美元，
01:59
and we were under the control
of organizations.
of organizations.
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还被组织管得死死的。
02:01
So we really wanted
to break away from that.
to break away from that.
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所以我们真的想摆脱这种局面。
02:04
But we knew it wasn't really
about our generation so much;
about our generation so much;
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其实这不光是为了我们这代人，
02:06
we knew it was about
the future generations.
the future generations.
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更多的是为了我们的后代。
02:08
We do stand on the shoulders of the people
that came before us, there is no question.
that came before us, there is no question.
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我们都是站在前人的肩膀上，毫无疑问。
02:12
But every generation
has the chance to make it better.
has the chance to make it better.
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但是每一代人都有机会进步。
02:16
That was really on my mind.
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我当时有一个想法。
02:18
I really wanted to start matching
the hearts and minds to Title IX.
the hearts and minds to Title IX.
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我想借（教育法修正案）第九条通过的契机，
真正推动男女平等。
真正推动男女平等。
02:22
Title IX, in case anybody doesn't know,
which a lot of people probably don't,
which a lot of people probably don't,
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很多人也许不了解这条法案，
我来解释一下，
我来解释一下，
02:26
said that any federal funds given
to a high school, college or university,
to a high school, college or university,
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法案规定：拨给高中、学院、大学
的联邦（教育）经费，
的联邦（教育）经费，
02:30
either public or private,
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无论学校是公立的还是私立的，
02:32
had to -- finally --
give equal monies to boys and girls.
give equal monies to boys and girls.
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必须——早就该这样了——
公平分配给男生和女生。
公平分配给男生和女生。
02:37
And that changed everything.
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这条法案改变了一切。
02:39
(Applause)
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（掌声）
02:42
So you can have a law,
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法律的制定是一回事，
02:44
but it's changing the hearts and minds
to match up with it.
to match up with it.
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但要真正实现男女平等就是另一回事了。
02:46
That's when it really rocks, totally.
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当时引起的反响还是非常大的。
02:49
So that was on my mind.
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于是我就有了这个想法。
02:50
I wanted to start that change
in the hearts and minds.
in the hearts and minds.
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我要开始推动实现真正的男女平等。
02:54
But two things came out of that match.
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那场比赛引出了两件事。
02:57
For women: self-confidence, empowerment.
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对女人而言：自信和自强。
03:00
They actually had enough nerve
to ask for a raise.
to ask for a raise.
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她们终于有勇气要求平等。
03:03
Some women have waited
10, 15 years to ask.
10, 15 years to ask.
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一些女人光为了提出这个要求，
就等了10年、15年。
就等了10年、15年。
03:07
I said, "More importantly,
did you get it?"
did you get it?"
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我说，“更重要的是，提出以后，
你得到平等了吗？”
你得到平等了吗？”
03:09
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
她们确实得到了！
03:10
And they did!
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03:12
And for the men?
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那对男人而言呢？
03:13
A lot of the men today don't realize it,
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可能现在的许多男人意识不到，
03:16
but if you're in your 50s, 60s
or whatever, late 40s,
or whatever, late 40s,
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但是如果你生活在五、六十年代，
或者是四十年代末，
或者是四十年代末，
03:22
you're the first generation of men
of the Women's Movement --
of the Women's Movement --
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那你就是经历了妇女运动的第一代男人，
03:25
whether you like it or not!
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甭管你喜不喜欢！
03:27
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
03:30
(Applause)
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（掌声）
03:31
And for the men,
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对男人而言，
03:32
what happened for the men,
they'd come up to me --
they'd come up to me --
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发生了什么呢，他们会来找我，
03:35
and most times, the men are the ones
who have tears in their eyes,
who have tears in their eyes,
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而且大部分时间，他们的眼里会满含泪水，
03:38
it's very interesting.
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很有趣不是吗。
03:39
They go, "Billie, I was very young
when I saw that match,
when I saw that match,
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他们说，“比利，我看那场比赛
的时候还很年轻，
的时候还很年轻，
03:43
and now I have a daughter.
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而我现在已经有一个女儿了。
03:47
And I am so happy I saw that
as a young man."
as a young man."
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我很高兴我在年轻的时候看了那场比赛。”
03:50
And one of those young men,
at 12 years old, was President Obama.
at 12 years old, was President Obama.
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而在这些年轻的小伙子们中，
就有当年12岁的奥巴马总统。
就有当年12岁的奥巴马总统。
03:54
And he actually told me that
when I met him, he said:
when I met him, he said:
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这是他自己跟我说的，他说：
03:57
"You don't realize it,
but I saw that match at 12.
but I saw that match at 12.
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“你可能不知道，
我看那场比赛的时候才12岁。
我看那场比赛的时候才12岁。
04:00
And now I have two daughters,
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而我现在已经有两个女儿了，
04:02
and it has made a difference
in how I raise them."
in how I raise them."
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那场比赛改变了我培养他们的方法。”
04:04
So both men and women got a lot
out of it, but different things.
out of it, but different things.
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所以说男性女性都从中收获了不少，
虽然各不相同。
虽然各不相同。
04:10
PM: And now there are generations --
at least one or two --
at least one or two --
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PM：现在至少有一到两代人，
04:13
who have experienced the equality
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经历了男女平等的时代，
04:16
that Title IX and other fights
along the way made possible.
along the way made possible.
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这些都是（教育法修正案）第九条
和其他妇女运动带来的。
和其他妇女运动带来的。
04:21
And for women, there are generations
who have also experienced teamwork.
who have also experienced teamwork.
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几代女性（运动员）还有了
参加集体项目的经历。
参加集体项目的经历。
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They got to play team sports
in a way they hadn't before.
in a way they hadn't before.
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这在以前是没有过的。
04:30
So you had a legacy already built
in terms of being an athlete,
in terms of being an athlete,
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你作为运动员为我们留下了宝贵的财富，
04:35
a legacy of the work you did
to lobby for equal pay for women athletes
to lobby for equal pay for women athletes
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为女性运动员争取平等的报酬，
04:40
and the Women's Sports Foundation.
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以及设立“女子运动基金”。
04:43
What now are you looking to accomplish
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现在你又成立了“比利·简·金领导计划”组织，
04:46
with The Billie Jean King
Leadership Initiative?
Leadership Initiative?
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你想通过它达到什么目标？
BJK：我想这件事能追溯到我12岁那年。
04:49
BJK: I think it goes back
to an epiphany I had at 12.
to an epiphany I had at 12.
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04:52
At 11, I wanted to be the number one
tennis player in the world,
tennis player in the world,
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11岁的时候我就想成为
世界第一的网球运动员，
世界第一的网球运动员，
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and a friend had asked me to play
and I said, "What's that?"
and I said, "What's that?"
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之前一个朋友叫我一起去打网球
我还问，“网球是什么？”
我还问，“网球是什么？”
04:59
Tennis was not in my family --
basketball was, other sports.
basketball was, other sports.
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我们家没人打网球，我们打篮球，
还有别的运动。
还有别的运动。
05:02
Fast forward to 12 years old,
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好吧，我们快进到12岁，
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
05:06
and I'm finally starting
to play in tournaments
to play in tournaments
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我终于开始打锦标赛了，
05:08
where you get a ranking
at the end of the year.
at the end of the year.
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在年底的时候有一个排名。
05:11
So I was daydreaming
at the Los Angeles Tennis Club,
at the Los Angeles Tennis Club,
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我当时就梦想自己加入洛杉矶网球俱乐部，
05:14
and I started thinking about my sport
and how tiny it was,
and how tiny it was,
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开始思考网球运动，当时网球还很小众，
05:19
but also that everybody who played
wore white shoes, white clothes,
wore white shoes, white clothes,
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而且每一个打网球的人都穿白球鞋，白球衣
05:23
played with white balls --
everybody who played was white.
everybody who played was white.
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打的球也是白色的，
连打球的人都是白人。
连打球的人都是白人。
05:26
And I said to myself, at 12 years old,
"Where is everyone else?"
"Where is everyone else?"
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然后我就觉得很奇怪，当时我12岁，
“其他人怎么不来打球？”
“其他人怎么不来打球？”
05:34
And that just kept sticking in my brain.
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这个疑问一直在我脑海中挥之不去。
05:37
And that moment,
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从那时起，
05:38
I promised myself I'd fight
for equal rights and opportunities
for equal rights and opportunities
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我就发誓要用我的余生
为男孩和女孩，为男人和女人
为男孩和女孩，为男人和女人
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for boys and girls, men and women,
the rest of my life.
the rest of my life.
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争取平等的权利和机会。o
05:44
And that tennis, if I was fortunate
enough to become number one --
enough to become number one --
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而网球——如果我足够幸运
能成为世界第一的话，
能成为世界第一的话，
05:49
and I knew, being a girl,
it would be harder to have influence,
it would be harder to have influence,
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当然我明白，作为一个女孩，
要达到那个高度很难，
要达到那个高度很难，
05:52
already at that age --
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毕竟我网球启蒙得晚——
05:54
that I had this platform.
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网球可以作为我的平台。
05:58
And tennis is global.
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网球运动是全球性的。
06:01
And I thought, "You know what?
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我想，“你们看，
06:04
I've been given an opportunity
that very few people have had."
that very few people have had."
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我拥有了一个非常难得的机会。”
06:07
I didn't know if I was going
to make it -- this was only 12.
to make it -- this was only 12.
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当然我不知道我最后
能不能成功——毕竟我才12岁。
能不能成功——毕竟我才12岁。
我当然想成功，但是
实现起来就是另一回事了。
实现起来就是另一回事了。
06:10
I sure wanted it, but making it
is a whole other discussion.
is a whole other discussion.
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06:13
I just remember I promised myself,
and I really try to keep my word.
and I really try to keep my word.
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我对自己做出了承诺，
我就会尽全力去实现它。
我就会尽全力去实现它。
06:18
That's who I truly am,
just fighting for people.
just fighting for people.
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这就是我，一个为人民抗争的人。
06:22
And, unfortunately, women have had less.
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不幸的是，女性拥有的很少。
06:27
And we are considered less.
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受到的关注也少。
06:29
And so my attentions,
where did they have to go?
where did they have to go?
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所以我的注意力都集中在哪里呢？
06:31
It was just ... you have to.
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就是……你必须（抗争）。
06:33
And learn to stick up for yourself,
hear your own voice.
hear your own voice.
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学会相信自己，追随自己的内心。
06:37
You hear the same words
keep coming out all the time,
keep coming out all the time,
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这些话你们也许听过很多次，
06:40
and I got really lucky
because I had an education.
because I had an education.
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而我非常幸运能够接受教育。
06:44
And I think if you can see it
you can be it, you know?
you can be it, you know?
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我想如果你能看到目标，
就有达成的一天，不是吗？
就有达成的一天，不是吗？
06:46
If you can see it, you can be it.
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有志者事竟成。
06:49
You look at Pat,
you look at other leaders,
you look at other leaders,
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你看帕特，看其他的领袖人物，
06:51
you look at these speakers,
look at yourself,
look at yourself,
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你看TED的演讲者，看你们自己，
06:53
because everyone --
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因为每一个人，
06:54
everyone --
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无论是谁，
06:56
can do something extraordinary.
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都能做出非凡的成就。
06:58
Every single person.
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每一个人。
06:59
PM: And your story, Billie,
has inspired so many women everywhere.
has inspired so many women everywhere.
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PM：比利，你的故事鼓舞了全世界的女性。
07:04
Now with the Billie Jean King
Leadership Initiative,
Leadership Initiative,
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现在有了“比利·简·金领导计划”组织，
07:07
you're taking on an even bigger cause.
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你开始从事更大的事业。
07:09
Because one thing we hear a lot
about is women taking their voice,
about is women taking their voice,
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有一件事我们经常听到，
就是女性开始掌握更多话语权，
就是女性开始掌握更多话语权，
07:13
working to find their way
into leadership positions.
into leadership positions.
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努力寻求走上领导岗位的方法。
07:16
But what you're talking
about is even bigger than that.
about is even bigger than that.
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然而你做的似乎还要更进一步。
07:19
It's inclusive leadership.
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你关注的是全面的领导力。
07:21
And this is a generation that has grown up
thinking more inclusively --
thinking more inclusively --
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现在成长起来的这一代人思考问题更加全面。
07:25
BJK: Isn't it great?
Look at the technology!
Look at the technology!
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BJK：这难道不是很棒吗？
看看现在的科技水平！
看看现在的科技水平！
07:27
It's amazing how it connects us all!
It's about connection.
It's about connection.
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它将我们都联系在了一起，多么神奇！
它彻底改变了人与人的关系。
它彻底改变了人与人的关系。
07:32
It's simply amazing
what's possible because of it.
what's possible because of it.
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因为科技的发展，一切皆有可能。
07:35
But the Billie Jean King
Leadership Initiative
Leadership Initiative
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而“比利·简·金领导计划”组织
07:38
is really about the workforce mostly,
and trying to change it,
and trying to change it,
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关注的主要还是劳动力，
并试图对它进行改变，
并试图对它进行改变，
07:41
so people can actually go to work
and be their authentic selves.
and be their authentic selves.
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这样一来人们都可以发挥自己所长，
展现最真实的自我。
展现最真实的自我。
07:45
Because most of us have two jobs:
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因为我们大多数人都有两份工作：
07:48
One, to fit in -- I'll give you
a perfect example.
a perfect example.
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一是融入（圈子）——我这有个很好的例子。
07:51
An African American woman
gets up an hour earlier to go to work,
gets up an hour earlier to go to work,
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一名非裔美国女性提早一个小时起床上班，
07:54
straightens her hair in the bathroom,
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在洗手间里把自己的头发弄直，
07:56
goes to the bathroom
probably four, five, six times a day
probably four, five, six times a day
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她可能一天内要去洗手间
四次、五次甚至六次，
四次、五次甚至六次，
07:59
to keep straightening her hair,
to keep making sure she fits in.
to keep making sure she fits in.
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确保自己的头发是直的，
确保自己能融入（工作圈子）。
确保自己能融入（工作圈子）。
08:03
So she's working two jobs.
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所以说她有两份工作。
08:04
She's got this other job,
whatever that may be,
whatever that may be,
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另一份工作是什么并不重要，
08:06
but she's also trying to fit in.
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但融入（圈子）是必须的。
08:09
Or this poor man who kept his diploma --
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有一个可怜的男人，
一直保存着自己的毕业证书
一直保存着自己的毕业证书
08:13
he went to University of Michigan,
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他上的是密歇根大学，
08:14
but he never would talk about
his poverty as a youngster, ever --
his poverty as a youngster, ever --
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但他绝不会提起自己贫穷的少年时代，
08:18
just would not mention it.
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绝对守口如瓶。
08:19
So he made sure they saw
he was well-educated.
he was well-educated.
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这样他能确保别人看到的
是他受过良好的教育。
是他受过良好的教育。
08:22
And then you see a gay guy
who has an NFL --
who has an NFL --
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还有一个男同，他在NHL（打球）——
08:24
which means American football
for all of you out there,
for all of you out there,
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也就是美式橄榄球（联盟），
可能其他国家的观众不了解，
可能其他国家的观众不了解，
08:27
it's a big deal, it's very macho --
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很不简单，这项运动非常有男子气概——
08:29
and he talked about football all the time,
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他无时无刻不在谈论橄榄球，
08:31
because he was gay
and he didn't want anybody to know.
and he didn't want anybody to know.
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因为他是同性恋，而他不想让人知道这一点。
08:35
It just goes on and on.
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这样的事层出不穷。
08:36
So my wish for everyone is to be able
to be their authentic self 24/7,
to be their authentic self 24/7,
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所以我希望每一个人都能做最真实的自己，
08:43
that would be the ultimate.
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这是我的终极目标。
08:44
And we catch ourselves -- I mean,
I catch myself to this day.
I catch myself to this day.
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我们要接受自己，
我一直如此，直到今天。
我一直如此，直到今天。
08:48
Even being gay I catch myself,
you know, like,
you know, like,
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即使我是同性恋，我也要接受自己，
08:50
(Gasp)
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就像，呃！
08:52
a little uncomfortable,
a little surge in my gut,
a little surge in my gut,
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尽管有点难受，就像腹中的阵痛，
08:55
feeling not totally
comfortable in my own skin.
comfortable in my own skin.
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觉得浑身不对劲。
09:00
So, I think you have to ask yourself --
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我们都应该扪心自问，
09:02
I want people to be themselves,
whatever that is, just let it be.
whatever that is, just let it be.
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我希望人人都可以做自己，
无论是什么样，都应该接受。
无论是什么样，都应该接受。
09:06
PM: And the first research
the Leadership Initiative did showed that,
the Leadership Initiative did showed that,
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PM：“领导计划”的首个研究结果表明，
09:09
that these examples you just used --
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正如你刚才举的那几个例子一样，
09:13
that many of us have the problem
of being authentic.
of being authentic.
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我们中有很多人不能展现真实的自我。
09:17
But what you've just looked at
is this millennial generation,
is this millennial generation,
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但您刚刚提到的千禧一代，
09:21
who have benefited from all these
equal opportunities --
equal opportunities --
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他们能享受到平等的机会，
09:25
which may not be equal
but exist everywhere --
but exist everywhere --
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尽管不完全平等，但至少存在，
09:27
BJK: First of all, I'm really lucky.
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BJK：首先，我很幸运。
09:29
Partnership with Teneo,
a strategic company that's amazing.
a strategic company that's amazing.
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我们与Teneo战略咨询公司
的合作非常棒。
的合作非常棒。
09:33
That's really the reason
I'm able to do this.
I'm able to do this.
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没有他们就没有“领导力倡议”组织。
09:36
I've had two times in my life
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我一生中有两次，
09:38
where I've actually had men
really behind me with power.
really behind me with power.
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得到了别人强有力的支持。
09:40
And that was in the old days
with Philip Morris with Virginia Slims,
with Philip Morris with Virginia Slims,
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（第一次是）“维吉尼亚细长香烟”的
菲利普·莫里斯，
菲利普·莫里斯，
09:44
and this is the second time
in my entire life.
in my entire life.
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然后这是我一生中的第二次。
09:46
And then Deloitte.
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再然后就是与德勤（的合作）。
09:49
The one thing I wanted was data -- facts.
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数据和事实对我而言非常重要。
09:52
So Deloitte sent out a survey,
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于是德勤组织了一次问卷调查，
09:54
and over 4,000 people now have answered,
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有超过4000名受访者递交了答案，
09:58
and we're continuing in the workplace.
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我们还在对结果进行分析。
10:00
And what do the millennials feel?
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千禧一代的内心有哪些感受？
10:04
Well, they feel a lot, but what
they're so fantastic about is --
they're so fantastic about is --
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当然，他们的感受很多，
但其中最了不起的是——
但其中最了不起的是——
10:07
you know, our generation was like,
"Oh, we're going to get representation."
"Oh, we're going to get representation."
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你知道，咱们这一代人就像，
“哦，我们要表达自我。”
“哦，我们要表达自我。”
10:10
So if you walk into a room,
you see everybody represented.
you see everybody represented.
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如果你走进一间屋子，
你会看到每个人都在表达自我。
你会看到每个人都在表达自我。
10:13
That's not good enough anymore,
which is so good!
which is so good!
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这种方式已经跟不上时代了，
这是件好事！
这是件好事！
10:16
So the millennials are fantastic;
they want connection, engagement.
they want connection, engagement.
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所以说千禧一代非常棒，
他们渴望联系，渴望交流。
他们渴望联系，渴望交流。
10:20
They just want you to tell us
what you're feeling, what you're thinking,
what you're feeling, what you're thinking,
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他们想知道你的感受，你的想法，
10:23
and get into the solution.
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然后找到解决之道。
10:25
They're problem-solvers,
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他们是问题解决者，
10:26
and of course, you've got
the information at your fingertips,
the information at your fingertips,
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而且，现在他们通过网络获取信息，
10:29
compared to when I was growing up.
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这跟我成长的年代已经完全不同了。
10:32
PM: What did the research show you
about millennials?
about millennials?
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PM：关于千禧一代的研究
您得出了什么结论？
您得出了什么结论？
10:34
Are they going to make a difference?
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他们能做出改变吗？
10:36
Are they going to create a world where
there is really an inclusive work force?
there is really an inclusive work force?
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他们能否创造一个兼容并蓄的劳动力环境？
10:40
BJK: Well, in 2025,
75 percent of the global workforce
75 percent of the global workforce
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BJK：到2025年，全球劳动力中的75%
10:46
is going to be millennials.
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将是千禧一代。
10:48
I think they are going
to help solve problems.
to help solve problems.
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我觉得他们会有助于解决一些问题。
10:50
I think they have
the wherewithal to do it.
the wherewithal to do it.
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他们有能力这样做。
10:52
I know they care a lot.
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我知道他们在乎很多事情。
10:54
They have big ideas
and they can make big things happen.
and they can make big things happen.
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他们有想法，也有能力做大事。
10:59
I want to stay in the now
with the young people,
with the young people,
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我想跟上年轻人，
11:01
I don't want to get behind.
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不想被甩在后面。
11:04
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
11:06
PM: I don't think there's any chance!
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PM：我觉得这个太难了！
11:09
But what you found out
in the research about millennials
in the research about millennials
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但我觉得您对千禧一代的看法，
11:12
is not really the experience that a lot
of people have with millennials.
of people have with millennials.
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跟很多人的看法不太一样。
11:17
BJK: No, well, if we want to talk --
OK, I've been doing my little mini-survey.
OK, I've been doing my little mini-survey.
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BJK：的确，如果我们想谈——
好吧，我自己做了一个小的问卷调查。
好吧，我自己做了一个小的问卷调查。
11:21
I've been talking to the Boomers,
who are their bosses, and I go,
who are their bosses, and I go,
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我跟许多婴儿潮时代出生的人谈过，
他们现在是千禧一代的老板，我问，
他们现在是千禧一代的老板，我问，
11:25
"What do you think about the millennials?"
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“你们是怎么看千禧一代的？”
我很兴奋，因为我以为评价会很好，
11:28
And I'm pretty excited, like it's good,
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结果他们的表情是这样的……
11:29
and they get this face --
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11:31
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
11:33
"Oh, you mean the 'Me' generation?"
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“哦，你是说‘自我’一代吗？”
11:35
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
11:37
I say, "Do you really think so?
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我说，“你真的这么认为吗？
11:38
Because I do think they care
about the environment
about the environment
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因为我真心觉得他们关心环境
11:41
and all these things."
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和其他（公益）问题。”
11:43
And they go, "Oh, Billie,
they cannot focus."
they cannot focus."
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他们说，“哦，比利，
他们就是关注得太多。”
他们就是关注得太多。”
11:47
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
11:50
They actually have proven
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他们甚至证明了，
11:52
that the average focus
for an 18-year-old is 37 seconds.
for an 18-year-old is 37 seconds.
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（现在）18岁的人集中注意力
的时间平均只有37秒。
的时间平均只有37秒。
11:55
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
11:57
They can't focus.
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他们无法集中注意力。
11:58
And they don't really care.
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而且他们真的毫不在乎。
12:00
I just heard a story the other night:
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有一天晚上我听说了一个故事：
12:02
a woman owns a gallery
and she has these workers.
and she has these workers.
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一位女士有一家画廊，
手底下有几个员工。
手底下有几个员工。
12:05
She gets a text from one of the workers,
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她收到一个员工的短信，
12:08
like an intern, she's
just starting -- she goes,
just starting -- she goes,
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是一个实习生，刚刚开始上班，
她写的是，
她写的是，
12:11
"Oh, by the way, I'm going to be late
because I'm at the hairdresser's."
because I'm at the hairdresser's."
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“哦，对了，我会晚点到，
我还在店里做头发。”
我还在店里做头发。”
12:14
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
12:19
So she arrives, and this boss says,
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然后她到了，老板问，
12:23
"What's going on?"
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“发生什么事了吗？”
12:24
And she says, "Oh, I was late,
sorry, how's it going?"
sorry, how's it going?"
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她说，“哦，我迟到了，
抱歉，有什么问题吗？”
抱歉，有什么问题吗？”
12:27
She says, "Well, guess what?
I'd like you leave, you're finished."
I'd like you leave, you're finished."
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老板说，“好吧，我想说，
你可以走了，你被解雇了。”
你可以走了，你被解雇了。”
12:31
She goes, "OK."
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她说，“行吧。”
12:32
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
12:36
No problem!
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无所谓！
12:37
PM: Now Billie, that story --
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PM：好吧，比利，这个故事……
12:38
I know, but that's what
scares the boomers --
scares the boomers --
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是啊，这正是婴儿潮一代所不能接受的，
12:41
I'm just telling you --
so I think it's good for us to share.
so I think it's good for us to share.
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我想说的是，
勇于分享是一件好事。
勇于分享是一件好事。
12:44
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
12:45
No, it is good for us to share,
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真的，分享是一件好事，
12:47
because we're our authentic selves
and what we're really feeling,
and what we're really feeling,
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因为我们要做真实的自己，
分享自己真实的感受，
分享自己真实的感受，
所以我们要辩证地来看问题。
12:50
so we've got to take it
both ways, you know?
both ways, you know?
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12:52
But I have great faith because --
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我对此很有信心，
12:54
if you've been in sports like I have --
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如果你也跟我一样从事网球运动，
12:57
every generation gets better.
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（你会发现）一代比一代强。
12:59
It's a fact.
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这是事实。
13:00
With the Women's Sports Foundation
being the advocates for Title IX still,
being the advocates for Title IX still,
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“女子运动基金”仍然在支持
（教育法修正案）第九条，
（教育法修正案）第九条，
13:04
because we're trying
to keep protecting the law,
to keep protecting the law,
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我们在努力保护这一法律，
因为它的地位很不稳固，
13:06
because it's in a tenuous position always,
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13:09
so we really are concerned,
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这让我们很担心，
13:11
and we do a lot of research.
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我们做了大量研究工作。
13:13
That's very important to us.
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这对我们意义重大。
13:15
And I want to hear from people.
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我想听听民意。
13:17
But we really have to protect
what Title IX stands for worldwide.
what Title IX stands for worldwide.
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我们真正要做的，是在全世界保护
（教育法修正案）第九条所代表的（群体）。
（教育法修正案）第九条所代表的（群体）。
13:22
And you heard President Carter
talk about how Title IX is protected.
talk about how Title IX is protected.
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你们都听了卡特总统关于保护
（教育法修正案）第九条的演讲。
（教育法修正案）第九条的演讲。
13:28
And do you know that every single lawsuit
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你们知不知道，每一件（涉第九条的）案子，
13:32
that girls, at least in sports,
have gone up against --
have gone up against --
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只要是女性提起诉讼
——至少在体育界是这样——
——至少在体育界是这样——
13:35
whatever institutions --
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控告某一个机构，
13:38
has won?
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都获胜了。
13:39
Title IX is there to protect us.
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第九条在保护我们。
13:42
And it is amazing.
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这非常好。
13:43
But we still have to get
the hearts and minds --
the hearts and minds --
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但我们仍需要争取民心，
13:47
the hearts and minds
to match the legislation is huge.
to match the legislation is huge.
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要让民众真正从心理上
接受这条法律，是一项大工程。
接受这条法律，是一项大工程。
13:50
PM: So what gets you up every morning?
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PM：究竟是什么给了你动力，
让你每天起早贪黑？
让你每天起早贪黑？
13:52
What keeps you sustaining your work,
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是什么支撑你一直努力工作，
13:55
sustaining the fight
for equality, extending it,
for equality, extending it,
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争取平等，扩大（男女平等的）领域，
13:58
always exploring new areas,
trying to find new ways ... ?
trying to find new ways ... ?
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不断探索新的领域，
寻找新的方式？
寻找新的方式？
14:01
BJK: Well, I always drove my parents crazy
because I was always the curious one.
because I was always the curious one.
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BJK：我好奇心很重，这点
一直让我父母很抓狂。
一直让我父母很抓狂。
14:06
I'm highly motivated.
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我的积极性非常高。
14:08
My younger brother was
a Major League Baseball player.
a Major League Baseball player.
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我弟弟是一名美职棒大联盟选手。
14:12
My poor parents did not care
if we were any good.
if we were any good.
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我俩（成绩）好不好，
我可怜的父母真是不关心。
我可怜的父母真是不关心。
14:15
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
14:16
And we drove them crazy because we pushed,
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我俩让父母抓狂是因为我们一直非常努力，
14:19
we pushed because
we wanted to be the best.
we wanted to be the best.
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我们努力是因为我们想成为最好的。
14:24
And I think it's because of what
I'm hearing today in TED talks.
I'm hearing today in TED talks.
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我想（我努力工作的）原因就在
我今天听到的TED演讲中。
我今天听到的TED演讲中。
14:29
I think to listen to these
different women,
different women,
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我觉得听不同的女性发言，
14:33
to listen to different people,
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听不同的人发言，
14:35
to listen to President Carter --
90 years old, by the way,
90 years old, by the way,
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听卡特总统发言，
顺便提一句，他已经90岁了，
顺便提一句，他已经90岁了，
14:38
and he we was throwing these figures
out that I would never --
out that I would never --
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他对那些数据简直信手捏来，要是我的话，
14:41
I'd have to go,
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我估计得走下台，
14:42
"Excuse me, wait a minute, I need
to get a list out of these figures."
to get a list out of these figures."
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“对不起，请等我一会，
我要去拿一下数据清单。”
我要去拿一下数据清单。”
14:46
He was rattling off --
I mean, that's amazing, I'm sorry.
I mean, that's amazing, I'm sorry.
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而他张嘴就来，真是了不起。
对不起，说远了。
对不起，说远了。
14:49
PM: He's an amazing man.
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PM：他的确非常棒。
14:51
(Applause)
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（掌声）
14:54
BJK: And then you're going to have
President Mary Robinson,
President Mary Robinson,
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BJK：然后还有玛丽·罗宾逊总统，
14:57
who's a former president --
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她是爱尔兰前总统……
14:59
Thank you, Irish! 62 percent! LGBTQ! Yes!
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谢谢，爱尔兰！62%赞成！
同性婚姻！太棒了！
同性婚姻！太棒了！
15:04
(Applause)
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（掌声）
（爱尔兰）国会将在6月
对同性婚姻进行投票，
对同性婚姻进行投票，
15:05
Congress is voting in June
on same-sex marriage,
on same-sex marriage,
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15:08
so these are things that for some people
are very hard to hear.
are very hard to hear.
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这样的事对某些人来说简直难以相信。
15:12
But always remember,
every one of us is an individual,
every one of us is an individual,
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请永远牢记，我们大家都是独立的个体，
15:15
a human being with a beating heart,
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是有血有肉的人，
15:17
who cares and wants to live
their authentic life.
their authentic life.
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我们都想活出自我。
15:22
OK? You don't have to agree with somebody,
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明白吗？你不必人云亦云，
15:24
but everyone has the opportunity.
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每个人都有机会。
15:27
I think we all have an obligation
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我认为我们都有义务
15:31
to continue to keep moving
the needle forward, always.
the needle forward, always.
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继续推动（平等的）
指针向前转动，不要停止。
指针向前转动，不要停止。
15:35
And these people have been so inspiring.
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很多人已经受到了不小的鼓舞。
15:38
Everyone matters.
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每一个人都很重要。
15:39
And every one of you is an influencer.
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你们每个人都能发挥影响力。
15:41
You out there listening, out there
in the world, plus the people here --
in the world, plus the people here --
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全世界的观众，当然还有现场的听众，
15:45
every single person's an influencer.
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每一个人，都能发挥作用。
15:47
Never, ever forget that. OK?
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请永远不要忘记这一点。好吗？
15:49
So don't ever give up on yourself.
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永远不要放弃自己。
15:52
PM: Billie, you have been
an inspiration for us.
an inspiration for us.
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PM：比利，你给了我们巨大的鼓舞和启发。
15:54
BJK: Thanks, Pat!
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BJK：谢谢你，帕特。
15:56
(Applause)
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（掌声）
15:59
Thanks, TED!
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谢谢TED大会！
16:01
(Applause)
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（掌声）
16:03
Thanks a lot!
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非常感谢！
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Billie Jean King - Tennis legend and activistBillie Jean King won 39 Grand Slam titles during her tennis career, and has long been a pioneer for equality and social justice.
Why you should listen
Named one of the “100 Most Important Americans of the 20th Century” by Life magazine and honored with a Presidential Medal of Freedom, Billie Jean King is the founder of the Billie Jean King Leadership Initiative and the co-founder of World TeamTennis. She founded the Women’s Sports Foundation and the Women’s Tennis Association. In August 2006, the National Tennis Center, home of the US Open, was renamed the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center in honor of her accomplishments, both on and off the court.
King grew up playing tennis in California public parks and won 39 Grand Slam titles during her career. She defeated Bobby Riggs in one of the greatest moments in sports history, the Battle of the Sexes on Sept. 20, 1973. She now serves on the boards of the Women’s Sports Foundation, the Andy Roddick Foundation, the Elton John AIDS Foundation and is a member of the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports and Nutrition.
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