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Sarah Kaminsky - Actor and writer
Sarah Kaminsky writes about her father, Adolfo Kaminsky, a forger with a mission.

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Born in 1979 in Algeria, of an Argentinean father with Russian origins, and a Tuareg Algerian mother, Sarah Kaminsky arrived in France when she was 3 years old. Passionate about art since her childhood, she started learning the cello at age 4. As a teenager, she discovered two passions, which are still vibrant in her life: theater and writing. Since then, she's shared her time between her acting career and writing screenplays, plays or books.

In 2009, Sarah wrote a book worthy of the best spy novels, based on the true story of her father, Adolfo Kaminsky, genius-forger who committed his know-how and convictions to serve the French Resistance during World War II, saving thousands of Jewish families, and many others over the course of 30 years for various causes around the world.

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TEDxParis 2010

Sarah Kaminsky: My father the forger

Sarah Kaminsky: Moj otac krivotvoritelj

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Sarah Kaminsky priča neobičnu priču o svojem ocu Adolfu i njegovim pothvatima za vrijeme Drugog svjetskog rata -- za vrijeme kojeg je iskoristio svoju dosjetljivost i talent za krivotvorenje dokumenata kako bi spasio živote. Ovaj je govor održan na francuskom, na TEDxParis; engleski je jezik automatski dodan u podnatpise.
- Actor and writer
Sarah Kaminsky writes about her father, Adolfo Kaminsky, a forger with a mission. Full bio

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I am the daughterkći of a forgerkrivotvoritelj,
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Kći sam krivotvoritelja.
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not just any forgerkrivotvoritelj ...
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I to ne bilo kakvog krivotvoritelja.
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When you hearčuti the wordriječ "forgerkrivotvoritelj," you oftenčesto understandrazumjeti "mercenaryplaćenik."
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Kad čujete riječ „krivotvoritelj“, pod njom često podrazumijevate „plaćenik“.
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You understandrazumjeti "forgedkrivotvoren currencyvaluta," "forgedkrivotvoren picturesSlike."
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Podrazumijevate „krivotvoreni novac“, „krivotvorene slike“.
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My fatherotac is no suchtakav man.
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Moj otac nije takav čovjek.
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For 30 yearsgodina of his life,
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Trideset godina svoga života
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he madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine --
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krivotvorio je dokumente.
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never for himselfsam, always for other people,
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Nikad za sebe, uvijek za druge,
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and to come to the aidpomoć of the persecutedprogonjeni and the oppressedpotlačeni.
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kako bi pomogao progonjenima i ugnjetavanima.
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Let me introducepredstaviti him.
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Da vam ga predstavim.
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Here is my fatherotac at agedob 19.
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Ovo je moj otac kad je imao devetnaest godina.
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It all beganpočeo for him duringza vrijeme WorldSvijet WarRat IIII,
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Za njega je sve počelo tijekom Drugog svjetskog rata,
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when at agedob 17 he foundpronađeno himselfsam thrustpovjerenje
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kad se sa sedamnaest godina iznenada našao
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into a forgedkrivotvoren documentsdokumenti workshopradionica.
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u radionici krivotvorenih dokumenata.
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He quicklybrzo becamepostao the falselažan papersnovine expertstručnjak of the ResistanceOtpor.
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Ubrzo je postao stručnjak za falsificiranje dokumenata Francuskog pokreta otpora.
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And it's not a banalbanalan storypriča --
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Ovo nije banalna priča --
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after the liberationoslobođenje he continuedi dalje
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nastavio je falsificirati dokumente
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to make falselažan papersnovine untildo the '70s.
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i nakon oslobođenja, sve do 70-ih godina.
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When I was a childdijete
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Naravno, dok sam bila dijete
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I knewznao nothing about this, of coursenaravno.
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ništa nisam znala o tome.
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This is me in the middlesrednji makingizrađivanje faceslica.
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Ono sam ja u sredini, pravim grimase.
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I grewrastao up in the ParisPariz suburbspredgrađa
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Odrasla sam u predgrađu Pariza
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and I was the youngestnajmlađi of threetri childrendjeca.
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kao najmlađe od troje djece.
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I had a "normalnormalan" dadtata like everybodysvi elsedrugo,
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Imala sam „normalnog“ oca kao i svi drugi,
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apartosim from the factčinjenica that he was 30 yearsgodina olderstariji than ...
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izuzmemo li činjenicu da je bio 30 godina stariji od...
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well, he was basicallyu osnovi oldstar enoughdovoljno to be my grandfatherdeda.
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u biti, bio je dovoljno star da mi bude djed.
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AnywayU svakom slučaju, he was a photographerfotograf and a streetulica educatornastavnik,
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Uglavnom, bio je fotograf i pedagog koji je radio s djecom beskućnicima,
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and he always taughtučio us to obeyslušati the lawzakon very strictlystrogo.
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i uvijek nas je učio da se strogo pridržavamo zakona.
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And, of coursenaravno, he never talkedRazgovarao about his pastprošlost life
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I naravno da nikad nije pričao o svojem prijašnjem životu
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when he was a forgerkrivotvoritelj.
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u kojem je bio krivotvoritelj.
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There was, howevermeđutim, an incidentincident I'm going to tell you about,
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Međutim, zbio se jedan događaj o kojem ću vam pričati,
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that perhapsmožda could have led me suspectsumnjiv something.
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a koji je mi je možda trebao staviti bubu u uho.
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I was in highvisok schoolškola and got a badloše graderazred,
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Bila sam u srednjoj školi i dobila sam lošu ocjenu,
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a rarerijedak eventdogađaj for me,
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što mi se rijetko događalo,
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so I decidedodlučio to hidesakriti it from my parentsroditelji.
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pa sam odlučila to prešutjeti roditeljima.
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In ordernarudžba to do that, I setset out to forgekrivotvoriti theirnjihov signaturepotpis.
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Kako bih to i postigla, odlučila sam lažirati njihove potpise.
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I startedpočeo workingrad on my mother'smamin signaturepotpis,
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Počela sam kopirati majčin potpis
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because my father'soca is absolutelyapsolutno impossiblenemoguće to forgekrivotvoriti.
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jer je očev potpuno nemoguće lažirati.
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So, I got workingrad. I tookuzeo some sheetslistovi of paperpapir
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Bacila sam se na posao. Uzela sam nekoliko listova papira
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and startedpočeo practicingvježbanje, practicingvježbanje, practicingvježbanje,
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i vježbala sam, vježbala i vježbala
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untildo I reachedpostignut what I thought was a steadypostojan handruka,
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sve dok nisam postigla ispravne pokrete ruke,
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and wentotišao into actionakcijski.
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a zatim sam krenula u akciju.
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LaterKasnije, while checkingprovjeravanje my schoolškola bagtorba,
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Nešto kasnije, kad je pregledavala moju školsku torbu,
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my mothermajka got holddržati of my schoolškola assignmentzadatak and immediatelyodmah saw that the signaturepotpis was forgedkrivotvoren.
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mama je pronašla školsku zadaću i odmah je primijetila krivotvoreni potpis.
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She yelledviknuo at me like she never had before.
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Vikala je na mene kao nikad prije.
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I wentotišao to hidesakriti in my bedroomspavaća soba, underpod the blanketsdeke,
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Sakrila sam se u sobu, ispod pokrivača,
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and then I waitedčekao for my fatherotac to come back from work
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a kasnije sam čekala da se otac vrati s posla,
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with, one could say, much apprehensionstrah.
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moglo bi se reći, s mnogo strepnje.
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I heardčuo him come in.
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Čula sam ga kad je došao.
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I remainedostala underpod the blanketsdeke. He enteredušao my roomsoba,
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Ostala sam ispod pokrivača. Ušao je u sobu
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satsat on the cornerugao of the bedkrevet,
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i sjeo na rub kreveta.
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and he was silentnijem, so I pulledizvukao the blanketdeka from my headglava,
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Nije ništa govorio pa sam provirila ispod pokrivača,
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and when he saw me he startedpočeo laughingsmijanje.
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a kad me ugledao počeo se smijati.
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He was laughingsmijanje so hardteško, he could not stop and he was holdingdržanje my assignmentzadatak in his handruka.
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Toliko se jako smijao da se nije mogao zaustaviti, a u ruci je držao moju zadaću.
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Then he said, "But really, SarahSarah, you could have workedradio harderteže! Can't you see it's really too smallmali?"
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Zatim je rekao „Stvarno Sarah, mogla si se više potruditi! Zar ne vidiš da je potpis premalen?“
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IndeedDoista, it's ratherradije smallmali.
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Stvarno je bio malen.
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I was bornrođen in AlgeriaAlžir.
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Rođena sam u Alžiru.
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There I would hearčuti people say my fatherotac was a "moudjahidmoudjahid"
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Ondje bih čula ljude kako govore da je moj otac „mudžahedin“,
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and that meanssredstva "fighterborac."
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što znači „borac“.
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LaterKasnije on, in FranceFrancuska, I lovedvoljen eavesdroppingprisluškivanje on grownups'odrasli' conversationsrazgovori,
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Kasnije, u Francuskoj, voljela sam prisluškivati razgovore odraslih
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and I would hearčuti all sortsvrste of storiespriče about my father'soca previousprijašnji life,
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te bih čula razne priče o očevom prijašnjem životu,
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especiallyposebno that he had "doneučinio" WorldSvijet WarRat IIII,
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osobito da je „sudjelovao“ u Drugom svjetskom ratu
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that he had "doneučinio" the AlgerianAlžirski warrat.
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i da je „sudjelovao“ u Alžirskom ratu za nezavisnost.
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And in my headglava I would be thinkingmišljenje that "doing" a warrat meantznačilo beingbiće a soldiervojnik.
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U svojoj sam glavi mislila kako „sudjelovati“ u ratu znači biti vojnik.
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But knowingpoznavanje my fatherotac, and how he keptčuva sayingizreka that he was a pacifistpacifista and non-violentnenasilnog,
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Poznavajući oca i kako je neprestano govorio da je pacifist i protiv nasilja,
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I foundpronađeno it very hardteško to pictureslika him with a helmetkaciga and gunpuška.
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teško sam ga mogla zamisliti sa šljemom i puškom.
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And indeeddoista, I was very fardaleko from the markocjena.
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I stvarno sam bila daleko od istine.
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One day, while my fatherotac was workingrad on a filedatoteka
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Jednog dana, kad je otac radio na jednom spisu
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for us to obtaindobiti Frenchfrancuski nationalitynacionalnost,
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za stjecanje francuskog državljanstva.
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I happeneddogodilo to see some documentsdokumenti
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vidjela sam neke dokumente
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that caughtzatečen my attentionpažnja.
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koji su mi zapeli za oko.
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These are realstvaran!
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Ovi su pravi!
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These are minerudnik, I was bornrođen an ArgentineanArgentinska.
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Ovo su moji dokumenti, rođena sam Argentinka.
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But the documentdokument I happeneddogodilo to see
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Dokument koji sam slučajno vidjela,
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that would help us buildizgraditi a casespis for the authoritiesvlasti
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a koji nam je pomogao izgraditi slučaj pred vladom,
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was a documentdokument from the armyvojska
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bio je dokument od vojske
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that thankedzahvalio my fatherotac for his work
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u kojem zahvaljuju mom ocu za njegov posao
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on behalfkorist of the secrettajna servicesusluge.
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koji je obavio za tajnu službu.
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And then, suddenlyiznenada, I wentotišao "wowwow!"
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Odjednom sam rekla sama sebi: „vau“!
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My fatherotac, a secrettajna agentAgente?
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Moj je otac tajni agent?!
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It was very JamesJames BondBond.
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Bio je poput Jamesa Bonda!
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I wanted to askpitati him questionspitanja, whichkoji he didn't answerodgovor.
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Htjela sam mu postaviti pitanja, na koja on nije odgovorio.
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And laterkasnije, I told myselfsebe that
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Kasnije sam sama sebi obećala
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one day I would have to questionpitanje him.
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kako ću ga jednog dana pitati o tome.
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And then I becamepostao a mothermajka and had a sonsin,
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Postala sam majka jednog malog dječaka
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and finallykonačno decidedodlučio it was time -- that he absolutelyapsolutno had to talk to us.
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te sam odlučila kako je došlo to vrijeme -- naprosto mora razgovarati s nama.
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I had becomepostati a mothermajka
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Ja sam upravo postala majka,
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and he was celebratingslavi his 77thth birthdayrođendan,
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a on je slavio 77. rođendan
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and suddenlyiznenada I was very, very afraiduplašen.
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i odjednom me uhvatio strah.
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I fearedbojao he'don bi go
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Bojala sam se da će otići
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and take his silencestišine with him,
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i sa sobom odnijeti šutnju
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and take his secretstajne with him.
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i svoje tajne.
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I managedupravlja to convinceuvjeriti him that it was importantvažno for us,
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Uspjela sam ga uvjeriti kako je važno za nas,
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but possiblymožda alsotakođer for other people
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ali i za druge ljude,
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that he sharedpodijeljen his storypriča.
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da podijeli svoju priču.
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He decidedodlučio to tell it to me
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Odlučio ju je ispričati meni,
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and I madenapravljen a bookrezervirati,
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a ja sam je pretočila u knjigu
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from whichkoji I'm going to readčitati you some excerptsizvadak laterkasnije.
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iz koje ću vam kasnije pročitati ulomke.
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So, his storypriča. My fatherotac was bornrođen in ArgentinaArgentina.
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Dakle, njegova priča. Moj je otac rođen u Argentini.
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His parentsroditelji were of Russianruski descentsilazak.
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Njegovi su roditelji imali ruske korijene.
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The wholečitav familyobitelj camedošao to settlepodmiriti in FranceFrancuska in the '30s.
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Cijela se obitelj, 30-ih godina, preselila u Francusku.
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His parentsroditelji were JewishŽidovski, Russianruski and aboveiznad all, very poorsiromašan.
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Roditelji su mu bili Židovi, Rusi i prije svega siromašni.
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So at the agedob of 14 my fatherotac had to work.
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Moj je otac već sa 14 godina morao početi raditi.
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And with his only diplomadiplomu,
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Sa svojom jedinom diplomom,
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his primaryosnovni educationobrazovanje certificatepotvrda,
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onom o završenom osnovnom obrazovanju,
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he foundpronađeno himselfsam workingrad at a dyerDyer - drysuho cleanerčistač.
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pronašao je posao u radnji za bojenje i kemijsko čišćenje.
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That's where he discoveredotkriven something totallypotpuno magicalčaroban,
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Ondje je otkrio nešto posve čarobno,
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and when he talksrazgovori about it, it's fascinatingfascinantan --
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a kad priča o tome, zvuči fascinantno --
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it's the magicmagija of dyeingbojenje chemistrykemija.
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otkrio je čaroliju kemijskog bojanja.
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DuringTijekom that time the warrat was happeningdogađa
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U to je vrijeme trajao rat
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and his mothermajka was killedubijen when he was 15.
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i majka mu je ubijena kad je imao 15 godina.
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This coincidedpodudaraju se with the time when
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To se poklopilo s trenutkom
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he threwbacio himselfsam bodytijelo and soulduša into chemistrykemija
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kad se posve posvetio kemiji
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because it was the only consolationutjeha for his sadnesstuga.
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jer je jedino u njoj pronalazio utjehu.
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All day he would askpitati manymnogi questionspitanja to his bossšef
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Po cijeli bi dan ispitivao svog šefa
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to learnnaučiti, to accumulateakumulirati more and more knowledgeznanje,
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i na taj način stjecao sve više i više znanja,
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and at night, when no one was looking,
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a noću, kad nikoga ne bi bilo u blizini,
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he'don bi put his experienceiskustvo to practicepraksa.
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svoje je znanje stavljao u praksu.
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He was mostlyuglavnom interestedzainteresiran in inktinta bleachingizbjeljivanje.
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Najviše ga je zanimalo izbjeljivanje tinte.
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All this to tell you
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Sve vam ovo pričam
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that if my fatherotac becamepostao a forgerkrivotvoritelj, actuallyzapravo,
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kako bih vam pokazala da je moj otac zapravo
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it was almostskoro by accidentnesreća.
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slučajno postao krivotvoritelj.
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His familyobitelj was JewishŽidovski, so they were houndedprogonjeni.
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Njegova je obitelj bila, dakle, židovska i zbog toga progonjena.
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FinallyKonačno they were all arresteduhićen and takenpoduzete to the DrancyDrancyju campkamp
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Na kraju su ih uhitili i odveli u sabirni logor Drancy,
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and they managedupravlja to get out at the last minuteminuta thanksHvala to theirnjihov ArgentineanArgentinska papersnovine.
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iz kojeg su se uspjeli izvući u posljednji trenutak, zahvaljujući argentinskim dokumentima.
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Well, they were out,
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No, iako nisu bili u logoru,
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but they were always in dangeropasnost. The bigvelika "JewŽidov" stamppečat was still on theirnjihov papersnovine.
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još uvijek su bili u opasnosti. Na dokumentima su još uvijek imali otisnut veliki žig „Židov“.
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It was my grandfatherdeda who decidedodlučio they neededpotreban falselažan documentsdokumenti.
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Moj djed je odlučio da su im potrebni lažni dokumenti.
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My fatherotac had been instillednakapan with suchtakav respectpoštovanje for the lawzakon
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Moj je otac toliko poštovao zakon
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that althoughiako he was beingbiće persecutedprogonjeni,
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da, iako je bio proganjan,
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he'don bi never thought of falselažan papersnovine.
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nikad se nije sjetio lažnih dokumenata.
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But it was he who wentotišao to meetsastati a man from the ResistanceOtpor.
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No, on je bio taj koji se išao sastati s čovjekom iz Pokreta otpora.
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In those timesputa documentsdokumenti had hardteško coverskorice,
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U to su vrijeme dokumenti imali tvrde korice,
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they were filledispunjen in by handruka,
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i u njima je rukom
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and they statednavedeno your jobposao.
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bilo ispisano vaše zanimanje.
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In ordernarudžba to survivepreživjeti, he neededpotreban
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Da bi preživio, otac je morao
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to be workingrad. He askedpitao the man
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raditi. Zamolio je čovjeka
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to writepisati "dyerDyer."
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da mu napiše „bojitelj“ kao zanimanje.
06:19
SuddenlyOdjednom the man lookedgledao very, very interestedzainteresiran.
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To je odjednom zaintrigiralo čovjeka.
06:22
As a "dyerDyer," do you know how to bleachbjelilo inktinta marksoznake?
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"Kako to mislite, bojitelj? Znate li izbijeliti tintu?
06:26
Of coursenaravno he knewznao.
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Naravno da je znao.
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And suddenlyiznenada the man startedpočeo explainingobjašnjavajući that
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I odjednom je čovjek počeo objašnjavati
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actuallyzapravo the wholečitav ResistanceOtpor had a hugeogroman problemproblem:
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kako cijeli Pokret otpora ima jedan golemi problem:
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even the topvrh expertsstručnjaci
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čak ni najbolji stručnjaci
06:35
could not manageupravljati to bleachbjelilo an inktinta, calledzvao "indelibleneizbrisiv,"
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nisu uspjeli izbijeliti tintu zvanu „neizbrisiva“,
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the "WatermanWaterman" blueplava inktinta.
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plavu tintu Waterman.
06:41
And my fatherotac immediatelyodmah repliedodgovorila that he knewznao exactlytočno
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Moj je otac odgovorio da točno zna
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how to bleachbjelilo it.
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kako ju izbijeliti.
06:46
Now, of coursenaravno, the man was very impressedimpresioniran with this youngmladi man of 17
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Naravno, čovjek je bio vrlo zadivljen ovim sedamnaestogodišnjakom
06:49
who could immediatelyodmah give him the formulaformula, so he recruitedregrutirani him.
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koji mu je na licu mjesta mogao reći formulu izbjeljivanja, pa ga je unovačio.
06:53
And actuallyzapravo, withoutbez knowingpoznavanje it, my fatherotac had inventedizumio something
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Tako je, i ne znajući, moj otac izumio nešto
06:56
we can find in everysvaki schoolchild'sschoolchild je pencilolovka casespis:
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što možemo naći u pernici svakog djeteta:
06:59
the so-calledtakozvani "correctionkorekcija penpero."
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takozvano „bjelilo“.
07:02
(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)
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But it was only the beginningpočetak.
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No, bio je to tek početak.
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That's my fatherotac.
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Ovo je moj otac.
07:10
As soonuskoro as he got to the lablaboratorija,
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Odmah po dolasku u laboratorij,
07:12
even thoughiako he was the youngestnajmlađi,
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iako je bio najmlađi,
07:13
he immediatelyodmah saw that there was a problemproblem with the makingizrađivanje of forgedkrivotvoren documentsdokumenti.
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uočio je da postoji problem u izradi lažnih dokumenata.
07:16
All the movementspokreti stoppedprestao at falsifyingkrivotvorenje.
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Svim je pokretima falsificiranje bilo dovoljno.
07:19
But demandzahtijevajte was ever-growingsve veće
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Međutim, potražnja je bila sve veća
07:22
and it was difficulttežak to tampernagovarati with existingpostojanje documentsdokumenti.
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i postalo je sve teže petljati s postojećim dokumentima.
07:24
He told himselfsam it was necessarypotreban to make them from scratchogrepsti.
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Sam je sebi rekao kako ih je potrebno stvoriti od početka.
07:26
He startedpočeo a presstisak. He startedpočeo photoengravingphotoengraving.
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Započeo je s tiskanjem. Foto-graviranjem.
07:29
He startedpočeo makingizrađivanje rubberguma stampspoštanske marke.
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Počeo je izrađivati gumene pečate.
07:30
He startedpočeo inventingizmišljanje all kindljubazan of things --
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Počeo je izrađivati razne stvari --
07:32
with some materialsmaterijali he inventedizumio a centrifugecentrifuga usingkoristeći a bicyclebicikl wheelkotač.
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od nekakvog je materijala napravio stroj za centrifugu koristeći kotač bicikla.
07:35
AnywayU svakom slučaju, he had to do all this
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Radio je sve to, morao je to raditi
07:37
because he was completelypotpuno obsessedopsjednut with outputizlaz.
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jer je bio potpuno opsjednut količinom izrađenih dokumenata.
07:40
He had madenapravljen a simplejednostavan calculationračunanje:
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Napravio je jednostavnu računicu:
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In one hoursat he could make 30 forgedkrivotvoren documentsdokumenti.
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za jedan je sat mogao izraditi 30 krivotvorenih dokumenata.
07:46
If he sleptspavao one hoursat, 30 people would dieumrijeti.
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Kad bi odspavao jedan sat, 30 bi ljudi umrlo.
07:50
This senseosjećaj of
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Taj osjećaj odgovornosti
07:53
responsibilityodgovornost for other people'snarodno livesživot when he was just 17 --
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za živote drugih, koji je razvio sa samo 17 godina --
07:56
and alsotakođer his guiltkrivnje for beingbiće a survivorpreživjeli,
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i osjećaj krivnje što je preživio,
07:59
sinceod he had escapedpobjegao the campkamp when his friendsprijatelji had not --
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pobjegavši iz sabirnog logora, dok njegovi prijatelji nisu --
08:03
stayedostao with him all his life.
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ostao je u njemu cijelog života.
08:05
And this is maybe what explainsobjašnjava why, for 30 yearsgodina,
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To možda objašnjava i zašto je sljedećih 30 godina
08:08
he continuedi dalje to make falselažan papersnovine
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nastavio izrađivati lažne dokumente
08:11
at the expensetrošak of all kindsvrste of sacrificesžrtve.
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iako je mnogo toga morao žrtvovati.
08:13
I'd like to talk about those sacrificesžrtve,
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Željela bih pričati o tim žrtvama
08:14
because there were manymnogi.
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jer ih je bilo mnogo.
08:16
There were obviouslyočito financialfinancijska sacrificesžrtve
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Očito su postojala financijska žrtvovanja
08:18
because he always refusedodbio to be paidplaćen.
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jer je odbijao primiti novac.
08:20
To him, beingbiće paidplaćen would have meantznačilo beingbiće a mercenaryplaćenik.
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Primiti novac za njega je značilo biti plaćenik.
08:23
If he had acceptedpriznat paymentplaćanje,
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Da je prihvatio plaću,
08:24
he wouldn'tne bi be ableu stanju to say "yes" or "no"
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ne bi mogao reći „da“ ili „ne“,
08:26
dependingovisno on what he deemedsmatra a just or unjustnepravedno causeuzrok.
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ovisno o tome što je smatrao pravednim ili nepravednim zahtjevom.
08:28
So he was a photographerfotograf by day,
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Trideset je godina bio fotograf danju,
08:30
and a forgerkrivotvoritelj by night for 30 yearsgodina.
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a krivotvoritelj noću.
08:32
He was brokerazbio all of the time.
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Stalno bez prebijene pare.
08:34
Then there were the emotionalemotivan sacrificesžrtve:
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Zatim su postojala emotivna žrtvovanja:
08:37
How can one liveživjeti with a womanžena while havingima so manymnogi secretstajne?
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kako istovremeno živjeti sa ženom i imati toliko tajni?
08:40
How can one explainobjasniti what one does at night in the lablaboratorija, everysvaki singlesingl night?
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Kako joj objasniti što svake noći radi u laboratoriju?
08:44
Of coursenaravno, there was anotherjoš kindljubazan of sacrificežrtva
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Naravno, postojao je još jedan oblik žrtvovanja
08:47
involvinguključuje his familyobitelj that I understoodrazumjeti much laterkasnije.
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koji je uključivao njegovu obitelj, to sam tek kasnije shvatila.
08:51
One day my fatherotac introduceduvedena me to my sistersestra.
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Jednog me dana otac upoznao s mojom sestrom.
08:54
He alsotakođer explainedobjašnjen to me that I had a brotherbrat, too,
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Objasnio mi je kako imam i brata,
08:58
and the first time I saw them I mustmora have been threetri or fourčetiri,
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a kad sam ih prvi put vidjela, imala sam tri ili četiri godine,
09:04
and they were 30 yearsgodina olderstariji than me.
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dok su oni bili 30 godina stariji od mene.
09:06
They are bothoba in theirnjihov sixtiesšezdesetih godina now.
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Oboje su sada u svojim šezdesetima.
09:11
In ordernarudžba to writepisati the bookrezervirati,
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Kako bih napisala knjigu,
09:14
I askedpitao my sistersestra questionspitanja. I wanted to know who my fatherotac was,
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postavljala sam sestri razna pitanja. Željela sam znati tko je moj otac,
09:17
who was the fatherotac she had knownznan.
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tko je otac kakvog je ona poznavala.
09:19
She explainedobjašnjen that the fatherotac that she'dBila had
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Objasnila mi je kako bi im otac, kakvog je ona poznavala,
09:23
would tell them he'don bi come and pickodabrati them up on SundayNedjelja to go for a walkhodati.
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rekao da će doći u nedjelju po njih i odvesti ih u šetnju.
09:27
They would get all dressedobučen up and wait for him,
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Oni bi se lijepo obukli i čekali ga,
09:30
but he would almostskoro never come.
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ali on gotovo nikad ne bi došao.
09:32
He'dOn bi say, "I'll call." He wouldn'tne bi call.
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Rekao bi „Nazvat ću vas“. A nije nazvao.
09:35
And then he would not come.
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Zatim više nije dolazio.
09:37
Then one day he totallypotpuno disappearednestao.
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A jednog je dana posve nestao.
09:40
Time passedprošao,
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Kako je vrijeme prolazilo,
09:42
and they thought he had surelysigurno forgottenzaboravljen them,
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zaključili su da ih je sigurno zaboravio,
09:45
at first.
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barem isprva.
09:46
Then as time passedprošao,
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Vrijeme je prolazilo
09:48
at the endkraj of almostskoro two yearsgodina, they thought,
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i nakon gotovo dvije godine, mislili su:
09:50
"Well, perhapsmožda our fatherotac has diedumro."
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„Možda je naš otac umro“.
09:53
And then I understoodrazumjeti
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Shvatila sam
09:55
that askingtraži my fatherotac so manymnogi questionspitanja
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da je moje postavljanje svih tih pitanja mom ocu
09:58
was stirringmiješajući up a wholečitav pastprošlost he probablyvjerojatno didn't feel like talkingkoji govori about
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probudilo duhove prošlosti o kojoj nije želio pričati
10:01
because it was painfulbolan.
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jer mu je bila toliko bolna.
10:03
And while my halfpola brotherbrat and sistersestra thought they'doni bi been abandonednapušten,
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Dok su moja polusestra i moj polubrat mislili kako ih je otac napustio
10:07
orphanedbez roditelja,
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i kako su siročad,
10:09
my fatherotac was makingizrađivanje falselažan papersnovine.
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on je izrađivao lažne dokumente.
10:11
And if he did not tell them, it was of coursenaravno to protectzaštititi them.
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On im to naravno nije rekao jer ih je želio zaštititi.
10:15
After the liberationoslobođenje he madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine
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Nakon oslobođenja izrađivao je lažne dokumente
10:17
to allowdopustiti the survivorspreživjeli of concentrationkoncentracija campskampovi to immigrateuseliti to PalestinePalestine
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kojima su oni koji su preživjeli sabirne logore mogli emigrirati u Palestinu,
10:20
before the creationstvaranje of IsraelIzrael.
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prije nastanka Izraela.
10:22
And then, as he was a staunchodan anti-colonialistanti-colonialist,
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Budući da je bio gorljiv antikolonijalist,
10:24
he madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine for AlgeriansAlžiraca duringza vrijeme the AlgerianAlžirski warrat.
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izrađivao je lažne dokumente Alžircima za vrijeme Alžirskog rata.
10:27
After the AlgerianAlžirski warrat,
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Nakon Alžirskog rata
10:30
at the heartsrce of the internationalmeđunarodna resistanceotpornost movementspokreti,
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njegovo je ime kolalo
10:33
his nameime circulatedkruži
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središtem međunarodnog pokreta otpora
10:34
and the wholečitav worldsvijet camedošao knockingkuca at his doorvrata.
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Cijeli je svijet dolazio k njemu po pomoć.
10:37
In AfricaAfrika there were countrieszemlje fightingborba for theirnjihov independencenezavisnost:
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U Africi su se zemlje borile za neovisnost:
10:40
GuineaGvineja, Guinea-BissauGvineja Bisau, AngolaAngola.
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Gvineja, Gvineja Bisau, Angola.
10:43
And then my fatherotac connectedpovezan with NelsonNelson Mandela'sMandela je anti-apartheidanti-aparthejd partystranka.
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Zatim se otac povezao s antiapartheidskom strankom Nelsona Mandele.
10:48
He madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine for persecutedprogonjeni blackcrno SouthJug AfricansAfrikanci.
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Izrađivao je lažne dokumente za progonjene crne Južnoafrikance.
10:51
There was alsotakođer LatinLatinski AmericaAmerika.
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Zatim je došla Latinska Amerika.
10:53
My fatherotac helpedpomogao those who resistedse opirao dictatorshipsdiktatura
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Moj je otac pomagao onima koji se se odupirali diktatorskoj vladi
10:56
in the DominicanDominikanski RepublicRepublike, HaitiHaiti,
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u Dominikanskoj republici, na Haitiju,
10:58
and then it was the turnskretanje of BrazilBrazil, ArgentinaArgentina, VenezuelaVenezuela, ElEl SalvadorSalvador, NicaraguaNikaragva,
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a zatim i u Brazilu, Argentini, Venezueli, Salvadoru, Nikaragvi,
11:04
ColombiaKolumbija, PeruPeru, UruguayUrugvaj, ChileČile and MexicoMeksiko.
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Kolumbiji, Peruu, Urugvaju, Čileu i Meksiku.
11:09
Then there was the VietnamVijetnam WarRat.
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Na red je došao i Vijetnamski rat.
11:11
My fatherotac madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine for the AmericanAmerički desertersdezertera
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Moj je otac izrađivao lažne dokumente američkim dezerterima
11:13
who did not wishželja to take up armsoružje againstprotiv the Vietnamesevijetnamski.
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koji se nisu htjeli boriti protiv Vijetnamaca.
11:16
EuropeEurope was not sparedpošteđen eitherili.
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Ni Europa nije bila pošteđena.
11:18
My fatherotac madenapravljen falselažan papersnovine for the dissidentsdisidenti
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Radio je lažne dokumente disidentima
11:21
againstprotiv FrancoFranko in SpainŠpanjolska, SalazarSalazar in PortugalPortugal,
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koji su ustali protiv Franca u Španjolskoj, Salazara u Portugalu,
11:24
againstprotiv the colonels'pukovnika dictatorshipdiktatura in GreeceGrčka,
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protiv vojne hunte u Grčkoj.
11:29
and even in FranceFrancuska.
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Pa čak i u Francuskoj.
11:31
There, just oncejednom, it happeneddogodilo in MaySvibanj of 1968.
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Dogodilo se to samo jednom, u svibnju 1968. godine.
11:34
My fatherotac watchedgledao, benevolentlyimaju blagotvoran, of coursenaravno,
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Moj je otac gledao, blagonaklono naravno,
11:37
the demonstrationsdemonstracije of the monthmjesec of MaySvibanj,
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svibanjske demonstracije,
11:40
but his heartsrce was elsewheredrugdje, and so was his time
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ali srce mu je bilo drugdje, kao i njegovo vrijeme
11:42
because he had over 15 countrieszemlje to serveposlužiti.
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jer je morao udovoljiti zahtjevima 15 zemalja.
11:45
OnceJednom, thoughiako, he agreeddogovoren to make falselažan papersnovine
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Jednom je prihvatio izraditi lažne dokumente
11:48
for someonenetko you mightmoć recognizeprepoznati.
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za nekoga koga možda prepoznajete.
11:50
(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
11:53
He was much youngermlađi in those daysdana,
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Tada je bio mnogo mlađi,
11:54
and my fatherotac agreeddogovoren to make falselažan papersnovine
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a moj je otac prihvatio izraditi mu lažne dokumente
11:56
to enableomogućiti him to come back and speakgovoriti at a meetingsastanak.
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kako bi se vratio u zemlju i održao govor na sastanku.
11:59
He told me that those falselažan papersnovine were the mostnajviše media-relevantmedija relevantne
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Rekao mi je kako su to bili medijski najvažniji
12:04
and the leastnajmanje usefulkoristan he'don bi had to make in all his life.
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i ujedno najbeskorisniji dokumenti koje je u životu izradio.
12:08
But, he agreeddogovoren to do it,
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No, pristao ih je izraditi
12:09
even thoughiako DanielDaniel Cohn-Bendit'sCohn-Bendit life was not in dangeropasnost,
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iako život Daniela Cohn-Bendita nije bio u opasnosti;
12:13
just because
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izradio ih je
12:15
it was a good opportunityprilika
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jer je to bila dobra prilika
12:16
to mockoponašanje the authoritiesvlasti,
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da se naruga vladi
12:19
and to showpokazati them that there's nothing more porousporozan than bordersgranice --
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i da im pokaže kako ne postoji ništa poroznije od granica --
12:22
and that ideasideje have no bordersgranice.
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i kako ideje ne poznaju granice.
12:26
All my childhooddjetinjstvo,
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Cijelog mog djetinjstva,
12:28
while my friends'prijatelji' dadstate would tell them Grimm'sBraće Grimm fairyvila talespriče,
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dok su mojim prijateljicama očevi pričali priče braće Grimm,
12:32
my fatherotac would tell me storiespriče about very unassumingskroman heroesheroji
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meni je moj otac pričao priče o skromnim junacima
12:36
with unshakeablečvrste utopiasutopije
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i njihovim nepokolebljivim utopijama,
12:39
who managedupravlja to make miraclesčuda.
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koji su uspjeli učiniti čuda.
12:42
And those heroesheroji did not need an armyvojska behindiza them.
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Tim junacima nije bila potrebna vojska.
12:46
AnyhowU svakom slučaju, nobodynitko would have followedslijedi them,
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Uostalom, nitko ih ne bi ni slijedio
12:49
exceptosim for a handfulrukovet [of] menmuškarci and womenžene of convictionuvjerenje and couragehrabrost.
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osim šačice hrabrih i odlučnih muškaraca i žena.
12:52
I understoodrazumjeti much laterkasnije
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Kasnije sam shvatila
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that actuallyzapravo it was his ownvlastiti storypriča my fatherotac would tell me to get me to sleepspavati.
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kako mi je otac prije spavanja pričao svoju vlastitu životnu priču.
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I askedpitao him whetherda li, considerings obzirom na the sacrificesžrtve he had to make,
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he ever had any regretsžali zbog.
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žali li za čim.
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He said no.
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Rekao je da ne,
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He told me that he would have been unablenesposoban
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rekao mi je kako ne bi mogao
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to witnesssvjedok or submitpodnijeti to injusticenepravda withoutbez doing anything.
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biti svjedok nepravde ili je podnositi, a da nešto ne poduzme.
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He was persuadeduvjeren, and he's still convinceduvjeren
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Uvjeren je i još uvijek vjeruje
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that anotherjoš worldsvijet is possiblemoguće --
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kako je drugačiji svijet moguć --
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a worldsvijet where no one would ever need a forgerkrivotvoritelj.
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svijet u kojem nikome nikad neće trebati krivotvoritelj.
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He's still dreamingsanjanje about it.
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On još uvijek sanja o tome.
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My fatherotac
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is here in the roomsoba todaydanas.
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danas ovdje u dvorani.
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His nameime is AdolfoAdolfo KaminskyKaminski and I'm going to askpitati him to standstajati up.
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Zove se Adolfo Kaminsky i zamolit ću ga da ustane.
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(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
Translated by Zlatko Smetisko
Reviewed by Katarina Smetko

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sarah Kaminsky - Actor and writer
Sarah Kaminsky writes about her father, Adolfo Kaminsky, a forger with a mission.

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Born in 1979 in Algeria, of an Argentinean father with Russian origins, and a Tuareg Algerian mother, Sarah Kaminsky arrived in France when she was 3 years old. Passionate about art since her childhood, she started learning the cello at age 4. As a teenager, she discovered two passions, which are still vibrant in her life: theater and writing. Since then, she's shared her time between her acting career and writing screenplays, plays or books.

In 2009, Sarah wrote a book worthy of the best spy novels, based on the true story of her father, Adolfo Kaminsky, genius-forger who committed his know-how and convictions to serve the French Resistance during World War II, saving thousands of Jewish families, and many others over the course of 30 years for various causes around the world.

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Sarah Kaminsky | Speaker | TED.com

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