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Khalida Brohi: How I work to protect women from honor killings
Kalida Brohi (Khalida Brohi): Kako štitim žene od ubistva zbog časti
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Blizu 1000 ubistava "zbog časti" bude zabeleženo svake godine u Pakistanu. To su ubistva od strane članova porodice za "sramotno" ponašanje, kao što je veza van braka. Kad je Kalida Brohi izgubila prijateljicu u jednom od rituala, rešila je da pokrene kampanju protiv ovoga. Ali, na svom putu je pronašla otpor na neočekivanim mestima: sama zajednica od koje je očekivala zaštitu. U ovom sjajnom i iskrenom izlaganju, Brohijeva deli sa nama kako je pažljivo gradila svoj napredak i nudi jasan uvid u situaciju za druge strastvene aktiviste.
Khalida Brohi - Women’s rights activist and entrepreneur
In the tribal region where she was born, Khalida Brohi founded an organization to end honor killings and empower Pakistani women. Full bio
In the tribal region where she was born, Khalida Brohi founded an organization to end honor killings and empower Pakistani women. Full bio
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00:12
While preparing for my talk
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Dok sam pripremala ovaj govor
00:15
I was reflecting on my life
and trying to figure out
and trying to figure out
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osvrnula sam se na svoj život
i pokušala da se setim
i pokušala da se setim
00:19
where exactly was that moment
when my journey began.
when my journey began.
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kada je tačno započelo moje putovanje.
00:24
A long time passed by,
and I simply couldn't figure out
and I simply couldn't figure out
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Mnogo je vremena prošlo od onda
i nisam mogla da se setim
i nisam mogla da se setim
00:26
the beginning or the middle
or the end of my story.
or the end of my story.
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početka, sredine ili kraja svoje priče.
00:29
I always used to think that my beginning
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Uvek sam smatrala da je sve počelo
00:31
was one afternoon in my community
when my mother had told me
when my mother had told me
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jednog poslepodneva u mojoj zajednici
kada mi je majka otkrila
kada mi je majka otkrila
00:35
that I had escaped three
arranged marriages by the time I was two.
arranged marriages by the time I was two.
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da sam do svoje druge godine
već izbegla tri ugovorena braka.
već izbegla tri ugovorena braka.
00:40
Or one evening when electricity had failed
for eight hours in our community,
for eight hours in our community,
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Ili jedne večeri kada osam sati
nije bilo struje u našoj zajednici,
nije bilo struje u našoj zajednici,
00:44
and my dad sat, surrounded by all of us,
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kad je moj otac seo,
sa nama ostalima oko njega
sa nama ostalima oko njega
00:46
telling us stories of when he was
a little kid struggling to go to school
a little kid struggling to go to school
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i pričao nam kako je kao dečak
morao da se izbori da ide u školu
morao da se izbori da ide u školu
00:50
while his father, who was a farmer,
wanted him to work in the fields with him.
wanted him to work in the fields with him.
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dok je njegov otac, farmer,
želeo da radi s njim na polju.
želeo da radi s njim na polju.
00:54
Or that dark night when I was 16
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Ili jedne tamne noći,
kad sam imala šesnaest godina
kad sam imala šesnaest godina
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when three little kids had come to me
and they whispered in my ear
and they whispered in my ear
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kada mi je troje dece prišlo i šapnulo
01:02
that my friend was murdered
in something called the honor killings.
in something called the honor killings.
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da je moja prijateljica ubijena
u takozvanom ubistvu zbog časti.
u takozvanom ubistvu zbog časti.
01:08
But then I realized that,
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Ali, onda sam shvatila
01:10
as much as I know that these moments
have contributed on my journey,
have contributed on my journey,
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iako znam koliko su ti trenuci
doprineli mome putovanju
doprineli mome putovanju
01:13
they have influenced my journey
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i uticali na njega,
01:15
but they have not been
the beginning of it,
the beginning of it,
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oni nisu bili njegov početak.
01:17
but the true beginning of my journey
was in front of a mud house
was in front of a mud house
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već se pravi početak mog putovanja
dogodio ispred kuće od blata
dogodio ispred kuće od blata
01:22
in upper Sindh of Pakistan,
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u gornjoj provinciji Pakistana,
01:24
where my father held the hand
of my 14-year-old mother
of my 14-year-old mother
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gde je moj otac držao moju
četrnaestogodišnju majku za ruku
četrnaestogodišnju majku za ruku
01:27
and they decided
to walk out of the village
to walk out of the village
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kada su odlučili da napuste selo
01:29
to go to a town where they could
send their kids to school.
send their kids to school.
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i odu u grad, gde će njihova deca
moći da idu u školu.
moći da idu u školu.
01:32
In a way, I feel like my life
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Na neki način, osećam da je moj život
01:35
is kind of a result of some wise choices
and decisions they've made.
and decisions they've made.
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posledica mudrih izbora i odluka
koje su moji roditelji doneli.
koje su moji roditelji doneli.
01:40
And just like that,
another of their decisions
another of their decisions
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I tako, jedna od njihovih odluka
01:43
was to keep me and my siblings
connected to our roots.
connected to our roots.
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bila je da u meni i svojoj ostaloj deci
zadrže naše korene.
zadrže naše korene.
01:46
While we were living in a community
I fondly remember as called Ribabad,
I fondly remember as called Ribabad,
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Dok smo živeli u zajednici
koja se zvala Ribabad,
koja se zvala Ribabad,
01:51
which means community of the poor,
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što znači 'zajednica siromašnih',
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my dad made sure that we also
had a house in our rural homeland.
had a house in our rural homeland.
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moj otac se pobrinuo da imamo
i kuću u našem ruralnom zavičaju.
i kuću u našem ruralnom zavičaju.
01:57
I come from an indigenous tribe
in the mountains of Balochistan
in the mountains of Balochistan
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Dolazim iz domorodačkog plemena
sa planine Beludžistan
sa planine Beludžistan
02:00
called Brahui.
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poznatije kao Brahui.
02:02
Brahui, or Brohi, means mountain dweller,
and it is also my language.
and it is also my language.
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Brahui ili Brohi znači 'stanovnik planina'
a to je ujedno i moj jezik.
a to je ujedno i moj jezik.
02:07
Thanks to my father's very strict rules
about connecting to our customs,
about connecting to our customs,
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Zahvaljujući strogim očevim pravilima
o povezanosti s našim običajima,
o povezanosti s našim običajima,
02:11
I had to live a beautiful life of songs,
cultures, traditions, stories, mountains,
cultures, traditions, stories, mountains,
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moj divni život bio je ispunjen pesmama,
kulturom, tradicijama, pričama, planinama,
kulturom, tradicijama, pričama, planinama,
02:17
and a lot of sheep.
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i s puno ovaca.
02:19
But then, living in two extremes
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No, život između dva ekstrema
02:22
between the traditions
of my culture, of my village,
of my culture, of my village,
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između tradicija moje kulture, sela,
02:26
and then modern education
in my school wasn't easy.
in my school wasn't easy.
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i modernog obrazovanja u školi
nije bio jednostavan.
nije bio jednostavan.
02:29
I was aware that I was the only girl
who got to have such freedom,
who got to have such freedom,
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Bila sam svesna da sam jedina devojčica
koja je imala toliku slobodu,
koja je imala toliku slobodu,
02:34
and I was guilty of it.
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i bila sam za to kriva.
02:36
While going to school
in Karachi and Hyderabad,
in Karachi and Hyderabad,
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Dok sam išla u školu
u Karači i Hajderabad,
u Karači i Hajderabad,
02:40
a lot of my cousins and childhood friends
were getting married off,
were getting married off,
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mnoge moje rođake i prijateljice
iz detinjstva su se udavale,
iz detinjstva su se udavale,
02:44
some to older men, some in exchange,
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neke za starije muškarce, neke u zameni,
02:46
some even as second wives.
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neke čak i kao druge supruge.
02:49
I got to see the beautiful tradition
and its magic fade in front of me
and its magic fade in front of me
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Posmatrala sam kako predivna tradicija
i njena čarolija blede preda mnom
i njena čarolija blede preda mnom
02:54
when I saw that the birth of a girl child
was celebrated with sadness,
was celebrated with sadness,
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kada sam videla da se rođenje
ženskog deteta slavi tugom,
ženskog deteta slavi tugom,
02:59
when women were told
to have patience as their main virtue.
to have patience as their main virtue.
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kada su ženama govorili da im
glavna vrlina mora biti strpljivost.
glavna vrlina mora biti strpljivost.
03:04
Up until I was 16,
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Do svoje šesnaeste godine
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I healed my sadness by crying,
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svoju tugu sam lečila plakanjem
03:09
mostly at nights
when everyone would sleep
when everyone would sleep
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uglavnom noću,
dok su ostali spavali,
dok su ostali spavali,
03:11
and I would sob in my pillow,
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ja bih jecala u svoj jastuk
03:13
until that one night
when I found out my friend was killed
when I found out my friend was killed
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sve do one noći kada sam saznala
da mi je prijateljica ubijena
da mi je prijateljica ubijena
03:17
in the name of honor.
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u ime časti.
03:20
Honor killings is a custom
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Ubistva zbog časti su običaj
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where men and women
are suspected of having relationships
are suspected of having relationships
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u kojem se muškarci i žene
sumnjiče za vezu
sumnjiče za vezu
03:26
before or outside of the marriage,
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pre ili izvan braka,
03:27
and they're killed by their family for it.
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zbog čega ih ubija
neko iz njihove porodice.
neko iz njihove porodice.
03:29
Usually the killer is the brother
or father or the uncle in the family.
or father or the uncle in the family.
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Ubica je najčešće brat, otac ili ujak.
03:34
The U.N. reports there are about 1,000
honor murders every year in Pakistan,
honor murders every year in Pakistan,
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Prema izveštaju UN-a svake godine se desi
oko 1000 ubistava zbog časti u Pakistanu,
oko 1000 ubistava zbog časti u Pakistanu,
03:39
and these are only the reported cases.
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a to su samo prijavljeni slučajevi.
03:41
A custom that kills
did not make any sense to me,
did not make any sense to me,
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Običaj koji ubija
nije imao smisla za mene
nije imao smisla za mene
03:45
and I knew I had to do
something about it this time.
something about it this time.
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i znala sam da
moram nešto preduzeti.
moram nešto preduzeti.
03:47
I was not going to cry myself to sleep.
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Nisam želela da plačući idem na spvanje,
naumila sam da učinim nešto,
bilo šta, da to zaustavim.
bilo šta, da to zaustavim.
03:50
I was going to do something,
anything, to stop it.
anything, to stop it.
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Bilo mi je 16 godina kada
sam počela da pišem poeziju
sam počela da pišem poeziju
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I was 16 -- I started writing poetry
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03:54
and going door to door
telling everybody about honor killings
telling everybody about honor killings
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i idem od vrata do vrata
govoreći svima o ubistvima iz časti:
govoreći svima o ubistvima iz časti:
03:57
and why it happens,
why it should be stopped,
why it should be stopped,
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zašto se događaju, zašto moraju prestati,
04:00
and raising awareness about it
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i šireći svest o tome,
04:01
until I actually found a much, much
better way to handle this issue.
better way to handle this issue.
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sve dok nisam pronašla mnogo bolji način
da rešim ovaj problem.
da rešim ovaj problem.
04:06
In those days, we were living in
a very small, one-roomed house in Karachi.
a very small, one-roomed house in Karachi.
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U to vreme smo živeli u vrlo maloj
jednosobnoj kući u Karačiju.
jednosobnoj kući u Karačiju.
04:13
Every year, during the monsoon seasons,
our house would flood up with water --
our house would flood up with water --
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Svake godine, za vreme sezone monsuna,
naša kuća bi poplavila
naša kuća bi poplavila
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rainwater and sewage --
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zbog kiše i kanalizacije
04:19
and my mom and dad
would be taking the water out.
would be taking the water out.
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i moji roditelji bi vadili vodu napolje.
04:22
In those days, my dad brought home
a huge machine, a computer.
a huge machine, a computer.
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U to vreme, moj otac je doneo kući
ogromnu mašinu - kompjuter.
ogromnu mašinu - kompjuter.
04:27
It was so big it looked as if it was going
to take up half of the only room we had,
to take up half of the only room we had,
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Bio je toliko velik da se činilo
kao da će zauzeti pola naše jedine sobe.
kao da će zauzeti pola naše jedine sobe.
04:32
and had so many pieces and wires
that needed to be connected.
that needed to be connected.
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Imao je puno delova i žica
koje je trebalo spojiti.
koje je trebalo spojiti.
04:35
But it was still the most exciting thing
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No, to je ipak bila
najuzbudljivija stvar
najuzbudljivija stvar
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that has ever happened
to me and my sisters.
to me and my sisters.
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koja se ikada dogodila
meni i mojim sestrama.
meni i mojim sestrama.
04:40
My oldest brother Ali got to be in charge
of taking care of the computer,
of taking care of the computer,
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Moj najstariji brat Ali bio je zadužen
za brigu oko kompjutera,
za brigu oko kompjutera,
04:44
and all of us were given
10 to 15 minutes every day to use it.
10 to 15 minutes every day to use it.
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i svako od nas dobio je 10 do 15 minuta
svaki dan da ga koristi.
svaki dan da ga koristi.
04:48
Being the oldest of eight kids,
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Budući da sam najstarija od osmoro dece,
04:51
I got to use it the last,
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mogla sam poslednja
da ga koristim,
da ga koristim,
04:54
and that was after
I had washed the dishes,
I had washed the dishes,
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i to tek nakon što bih oprala posuđe,
04:57
cleaned the house,
made dinner with my mom,
made dinner with my mom,
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očistila kuću, pripremila večeru s majkom,
04:59
and put blankets on the floor
for everyone to sleep,
for everyone to sleep,
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i postavila ćebad po podu
da svi mogu da spavaju,
da svi mogu da spavaju,
05:02
and after that,
I would run to the computer,
I would run to the computer,
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i nakon toga, otrčala bih do kompjutera,
05:04
connect it to the Internet,
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povezala ga s internetom,
05:06
and have pure joy and wonder
for 10 to 15 minutes.
for 10 to 15 minutes.
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i uživala u čistoj radosti i čuđenju
10 do 15 minuta.
10 do 15 minuta.
05:12
In those days, I had discovered
a website called Joogle.
a website called Joogle.
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Tada sam otkrila internet stranicu
koja se zvala Džugl.
koja se zvala Džugl.
05:16
[Google] (Laughter)
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[Google] (Smeh)
05:19
In my frantic wish
to do something about this custom,
to do something about this custom,
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U svojoj prevelikoj želji da preduzmem
nešto u vezi s ovim običajem,
nešto u vezi s ovim običajem,
05:23
I made use of Google
and discovered Facebook,
and discovered Facebook,
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iskoristila sam Gugl i otkrila Fejsbuk,
05:26
a website where people can connect
to anyone around the world,
to anyone around the world,
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stranicu gde se ljudi mogu povezati
s bilo kime na svetu,
s bilo kime na svetu,
05:31
and so, from my very tiny,
cement-roofed room in Karachi,
cement-roofed room in Karachi,
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i iz svoje sitne sobe
sa cementnim krovom u Karačiju,
sa cementnim krovom u Karačiju,
05:35
I connected with people in the U.K.,
the U.S., Australia and Canada,
the U.S., Australia and Canada,
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povezala sam se s ljudima u Britaniji,
SAD-u, Australiji i Kanadi,
SAD-u, Australiji i Kanadi,
05:38
and created a campaign called
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i stvorila kampanju zvanu
05:41
WAKE UP Campaign
against Honor Killings.
against Honor Killings.
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WAKE UP, protiv ubistva zbog časti.
05:44
It became enormous
in just a few months.
in just a few months.
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Postala je ogromna za samo par meseci.
05:47
I got a lot of support
from all around the world.
from all around the world.
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Dobila sam mnogo podrške
iz celog sveta.
iz celog sveta.
Mediji su se povezivali s nama.
05:49
Media was connecting to us.
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05:51
A lot of people were reaching out
trying to raise awareness with us.
trying to raise awareness with us.
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Mnogo se ljudi pokrenulo
i zajedno s nama pokušalo podići svest.
i zajedno s nama pokušalo podići svest.
05:54
It became so big that it went from online
to the streets of my hometown,
to the streets of my hometown,
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Postala je toliko značajna da je prešla
iz virtualnog sveta na ulice mog grada,
iz virtualnog sveta na ulice mog grada,
05:59
where we would do rallies and strikes
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gde smo se okupljali i štrajkovali
06:01
trying to change the policies
in Pakistan for women's support.
in Pakistan for women's support.
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pokušavajući promeniti
pakistanske zakone o podršci ženama.
pakistanske zakone o podršci ženama.
06:05
And while I thought
everything was perfect,
everything was perfect,
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Dok sam mislila da je sve savršeno,
06:08
my team -- which was basically
my friends and neighbors at that time --
my friends and neighbors at that time --
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moj tim, koji se sastojao od
mojih prijateljica i tadašnjih suseda,
mojih prijateljica i tadašnjih suseda,
06:12
thought everything was going so well,
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verovao je da sve ide dobro,
06:14
we had no idea a big opposition
was coming to us.
was coming to us.
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no nismo imali pojma da će nam se
suprotstaviti jaka opozicija.
suprotstaviti jaka opozicija.
06:20
My community stood up against us,
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Usprotivila nam se
moja vlastita zajednica,
moja vlastita zajednica,
06:22
saying we were spreading
un-Islamic behavior.
un-Islamic behavior.
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tvrdeći da širimo anti-islamsko ponašanje.
06:25
We were challenging centuries-old
customs in those communities.
customs in those communities.
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Napadali smo stoletne običaje
u tim zajednicama.
u tim zajednicama.
06:30
I remember my father receiving
anonymous letters
anonymous letters
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Sećam se da je moj otac
dobijao anonimna pisma poput:
dobijao anonimna pisma poput:
06:33
saying, "Your daughter
is spreading Western culture
is spreading Western culture
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"Tvoja kćerka širi zapadnjačku kulturu
06:36
in the honorable societies."
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u časnim zajednicama."
06:38
Our car was stoned at one point.
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Jednom su i kamenovali naš auto.
06:40
One day I went to the office
and found our metal signboard
and found our metal signboard
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Kad sam jedan dan otišla do kancelarije,
pronašla sam našu metalnu ploču s natpisom
pronašla sam našu metalnu ploču s natpisom
06:44
wrinkled and broken as if a lot of people
had been hitting it with something heavy.
had been hitting it with something heavy.
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izgužvanu i razbijenu kao da ju je
gomila ljudi izudarala teškim predmetom.
gomila ljudi izudarala teškim predmetom.
06:49
Things got so bad that I had
to hide myself in many ways.
to hide myself in many ways.
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Stanje se toliko pogoršalo da sam morala
da se sakrivam na razne načine.
da se sakrivam na razne načine.
06:53
I would put up the windows of the car,
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Zatvarala bih prozore automobila,
06:56
veil my face, not speak
while I was in public,
while I was in public,
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zaklanjala lice velom,
ne bih govorila u javnosti,
ne bih govorila u javnosti,
07:00
but eventually situations got worse
when my life was threatened,
when my life was threatened,
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no naposletku je stanje eskaliralo
kada su mi počeli pretiti smrću,
kada su mi počeli pretiti smrću,
07:04
and I had to leave, back to Karachi,
and our actions stopped.
and our actions stopped.
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i morala sam se vratiti u Karači,
i prekinuti s našim akcijama.
i prekinuti s našim akcijama.
07:09
Back in Karachi, as an 18-year-old,
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U Karačiju, kao osamnaestogodišnjakinja,
07:13
I thought this was the biggest
failure of my entire life.
failure of my entire life.
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smatrala sam da je to najveći promašaj
u mom celom životu.
u mom celom životu.
07:18
I was devastated.
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Bila sam očajna.
07:20
As a teenager, I was blaming
myself for everything that happened.
myself for everything that happened.
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Kao adolescentkinja, krivila sam samu sebe
za sve što se dogodilo.
za sve što se dogodilo.
07:23
And it turns out,
when we started reflecting,
when we started reflecting,
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Kada smo analizirali sve,
ispostavilo se
ispostavilo se
07:25
we did realize that it was actually
me and my team's fault.
me and my team's fault.
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da smo ja i moj tim zaista bili krivci.
07:31
There were two big reasons
why our campaign had failed big time.
why our campaign had failed big time.
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Dva su glavna razloga
velikog neuspeha naše kampanje.
velikog neuspeha naše kampanje.
07:36
One of those, the first reason,
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Prvi razlog bio je taj
07:39
is we were standing
against core values of people.
against core values of people.
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što smo se usprotivili
nečijim temeljnim vrednostima.
nečijim temeljnim vrednostima.
07:42
We were saying no to something
that was very important to them,
that was very important to them,
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Pobijali smo nešto
što im je bilo vrlo bitno,
što im je bilo vrlo bitno,
07:46
challenging their code of honor,
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napadali njihov kod časti,
07:48
and hurting them deeply in the process.
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i time ih duboko ranjavali.
07:51
And number two, which was very
important for me to learn,
important for me to learn,
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Drugi razlog,
što sam trebala naučiti,
što sam trebala naučiti,
07:53
and amazing, and surprising
for me to learn,
for me to learn,
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i što mi je bilo zapanjujuće
i iznenađujuće,
i iznenađujuće,
07:55
was that we were not including
the true heroes
the true heroes
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bio je taj što nismo uključili
istinske heroje
istinske heroje
07:59
who should be fighting for themselves.
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koji su trebali da se bore za sebe.
08:01
The women in the villages had no idea
we were fighting for them in the streets.
we were fighting for them in the streets.
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Žene u selima nisu imale pojma
da se borimo za njih na ulicama.
da se borimo za njih na ulicama.
08:05
Every time I would go back,
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Svaki put kada bih se vratila,
08:06
I would find my cousins and friends
with scarves on their faces,
with scarves on their faces,
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nailazila bih na svoje rođake
i prijateljice sa velom na licu,
i prijateljice sa velom na licu,
08:09
and I would ask, "What happened?"
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i pitala bih ih šta se dogodilo.
08:11
And they'd be like,
"Our husbands beat us."
"Our husbands beat us."
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Odgovorile bi da su ih muževi tukli.
08:13
But we are working in the streets for you!
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Ali mi smo se borili za njih na ulicama!
08:16
We are changing the policies.
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Menjali smo zakone.
08:18
How is that not impacting their life?
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Kako to nije imalo uticaja
na njihove živote?
na njihove živote?
08:21
So then we found out something
which was very amazing for us.
which was very amazing for us.
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Tada smo okrili nešto zapanjujuće.
08:26
The policies of a country
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Zakoni neke zemlje
08:28
do not necessarily always affect
the tribal and rural communities.
the tribal and rural communities.
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ne utiču nužno uvek
na plemenske i ruralne zajednice.
na plemenske i ruralne zajednice.
08:33
It was devastating -- like, oh,
we can't actually do something about this?
we can't actually do something about this?
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To je bilo poražavajuće - zar ne možemo
učiniti ništa u vezi s ovim?
učiniti ništa u vezi s ovim?
08:37
And we found out there's a huge gap
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Otkrili smo da postoji veliki jaz
08:40
when it comes to official policies
and the real truth on the ground.
and the real truth on the ground.
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između politike i prave istine
u lokalnim sredinama.
u lokalnim sredinama.
08:44
So this time, we were like,
we are going to do something different.
we are going to do something different.
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Ovaj put smo odlučili delovati drukčije.
08:47
We are going to use strategy,
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Planirali smo da upotrebimo strategiju,
08:49
and we are going to go back and apologize.
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da se vratimo i izvinimo se.
08:52
Yes, apologize.
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Da, izvinimo se.
08:54
We went back to the communities
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Vratili smo se u zajednice,
08:55
and we said we are
very ashamed of what we did.
very ashamed of what we did.
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i rekli im da se stidimo zbog
svega što smo radili,
svega što smo radili,
08:59
We are here to apologize, and in fact,
we are here to make it up to you.
we are here to make it up to you.
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da smo došli da se izvinimo i nadoknadimo
štetu koju smo prouzrokovali.
štetu koju smo prouzrokovali.
09:03
How do we do that?
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Kako smo to uradili?
09:05
We are going to promote
three of your main cultures.
three of your main cultures.
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Promovisaćemo
njihove tri glavne kulture.
njihove tri glavne kulture.
09:08
We know that it's music,
language, and embroidery.
language, and embroidery.
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Muziku, jezik i vez.
09:11
Nobody believed us.
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Niko nam nije verovao.
09:13
Nobody wanted to work with us.
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Niko nije hteo da sarađuje s nama.
09:16
It took a lot of convincing
and discussions with these communities
and discussions with these communities
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Trebalo je puno uveravanja i diskusija
s tim zajednicama
s tim zajednicama
09:19
until they agreed that we are going
to promote their language
to promote their language
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dok nisu pristale da
promovišemo njihov jezik
promovišemo njihov jezik
09:23
by making a booklet of their stories,
fables and old tales in the tribe,
fables and old tales in the tribe,
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tako što ćemo objaviti pamflet s pričama,
bajkama i njihovim starim pripovetkama
bajkama i njihovim starim pripovetkama
09:27
and we would promote their music
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i promovisaćemo njihovu muziku
09:30
by making a CD of the songs
from the tribe, and some drumbeating.
from the tribe, and some drumbeating.
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tako što ćemo napraviti CD s pesmama
njihovog plemena i bubnjanjem.
njihovog plemena i bubnjanjem.
09:36
And the third, which was my favorite,
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I treće, meni najdraže,
09:38
was we would promote their embroidery
by making a center in the village
by making a center in the village
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promovirali bismo njihov vez
tako da osnujemo centar u selu
tako da osnujemo centar u selu
09:42
where women would come every day
to make embroidery.
to make embroidery.
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gde bi žene mogle svakodnevno dolaziti
i izrađivati vezove.
i izrađivati vezove.
09:46
And so it began.
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I tako je započelo.
09:48
We worked with one village,
and we started our first center.
and we started our first center.
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Sarađivali smo s jednim selom,
i pokrenuli smo svoj prvi centar.
i pokrenuli smo svoj prvi centar.
09:52
It was a beautiful day.
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Bio je to predivan dan.
09:54
We started the center.
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Osnovali smo centar.
09:55
Women were coming to make embroidery,
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Žene su dolazile da izrađuju vezove,
09:57
and going through a life-changing
process of education,
process of education,
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i prolazile su kroz edukaciju
koja im je menjala život,
koja im je menjala život,
10:01
learning about their rights,
what Islam says about their rights,
what Islam says about their rights,
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učile su o svojim pravima,
šta Islam govori o njihovim pravilima,
šta Islam govori o njihovim pravilima,
10:04
and enterprise development,
how they can create money,
how they can create money,
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i razvoju preduzetništva,
kako mogu stvarati novac,
kako mogu stvarati novac,
10:07
and then how they can create
money from money,
money from money,
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i potom kako mogu iz tog novca
stvoriti novac,
stvoriti novac,
10:09
how they can fight the customs
that have been destroying their lives
that have been destroying their lives
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kako se mogu boriti protiv običaja
koji su im uništavali život
koji su im uništavali život
10:13
from so many centuries,
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toliko stoleća,
10:14
because in Islam, in reality,
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jer prema Islamu, zapravo,
10:16
women are supposed to be
shoulder to shoulder with men.
shoulder to shoulder with men.
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žene bi trebale stajati
rame uz rame muškarcima.
rame uz rame muškarcima.
10:20
Women have so much status
that we have not been hearing,
that we have not been hearing,
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Žene imaju visoki status
o kojem se ne govori,
o kojem se ne govori,
10:24
that they have not been hearing,
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o kojem im se nije govorilo,
10:25
and we needed to tell them
that they need to know
that they need to know
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i morali smo im reći
da treba da znaju
da treba da znaju
10:28
where their rights are
and how to take them by themselves,
and how to take them by themselves,
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kakva su im prava
i kako da se same zauzmu za njih,
i kako da se same zauzmu za njih,
10:31
because they can do it and we can't.
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jer one to mogu da urade,
za razliku od nas.
za razliku od nas.
10:34
So this was the model which actually
came out -- very amazing.
came out -- very amazing.
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To je model koji smo razradili -
jako uzbudljivo.
jako uzbudljivo.
10:36
Through embroidery
we were promoting their traditions.
we were promoting their traditions.
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Kroz vez smo promovisali njihovu kulturu.
10:39
We went into the village.
We would mobilize the community.
We would mobilize the community.
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Odlazili smo u sela i pokretali zajednice.
10:42
We would make a center inside
where 30 women will come
where 30 women will come
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Osnovali bismo tamo centar
u koji bi dolazilo 30 žena
u koji bi dolazilo 30 žena
10:45
for six months to learn about
value addition of traditional embroidery,
value addition of traditional embroidery,
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na šest meseci kako bi učile
o vrednosti koju ima tradicionalan vez,
o vrednosti koju ima tradicionalan vez,
10:49
enterprise development,
life skills and basic education,
life skills and basic education,
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o razvoju preduzetništva,
životnim veštinama i osnovnoj edukaciji,
životnim veštinama i osnovnoj edukaciji,
10:53
and about their rights
and how to say no to those customs
and how to say no to those customs
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o svojim pravima i kako da
se suprotstave tim običajima
se suprotstave tim običajima
10:56
and how to stand as leaders
for themselves and the society.
for themselves and the society.
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te kako da postanu vođe za same sebe
i vođe u svom društvu.
i vođe u svom društvu.
10:59
After six months, we would connect
these women to loans and to markets
these women to loans and to markets
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Posle šest meseci, mogli smo da povežemo
te žene sa kreditima i tržištima
te žene sa kreditima i tržištima
11:04
where they can become
local entrepreneurs in their communities.
local entrepreneurs in their communities.
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gde su mogle postati lokalne preduzetnice
u svojim zajednicama.
u svojim zajednicama.
11:08
We soon called this project Sughar.
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Uskoro smo ovaj projekat nazvali Sughar.
11:11
Sughar is a local word used
in many, many languages in Pakistan.
in many, many languages in Pakistan.
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Sughar je lokalna reč koja se koristi
u mnogim jezicima u Pakistanu.
u mnogim jezicima u Pakistanu.
11:15
It means skilled and confident women.
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Označava iskusne i samouverene žene.
11:19
I truly believe, to create women leaders,
there's only one thing you have to do:
there's only one thing you have to do:
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Zaista verujem da je potrebna samo
jedna stvar da stvorimo žene vođe:
jedna stvar da stvorimo žene vođe:
11:24
Just let them know that they have
what it takes to be a leader.
what it takes to be a leader.
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Treba ih samo uveriti da poseduju sve
kvalitete kako bi postale vođe.
kvalitete kako bi postale vođe.
11:28
These women you see here,
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Ove žene koje vidite,
11:30
they have strong skills
and potential to be leaders.
and potential to be leaders.
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poseduju snažne veštine i potencijal
da postanu vođe.
da postanu vođe.
11:34
All we had to do was remove
the barriers that surrounded them,
the barriers that surrounded them,
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Mi smo jedino trebali da uklonimo
granice koje su ih okruživale,
granice koje su ih okruživale,
11:37
and that's what we decided to do.
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i odlučili smo to da napravimo.
11:40
But then while we were thinking
everything was going well,
everything was going well,
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No, dok smo mislili da
sve ide u dobrom smeru,
sve ide u dobrom smeru,
11:43
once again everything was fantastic,
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sve je opet bilo odlično,
11:46
we found our next setback:
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naišli smo na sledeću prepreku:
11:48
A lot of men started seeing
the visible changes in their wife.
the visible changes in their wife.
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Mnogi muškarci počeli su primećivati
promene kod svojih žena.
promene kod svojih žena.
11:51
She's speaking more,
she's making decisions --
she's making decisions --
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Više su pričale, donosile odluke -
11:53
oh my gosh, she's handling
everything in the house.
everything in the house.
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vodile celo domaćinstvo.
11:56
They stopped them
from coming to the centers,
from coming to the centers,
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Zabranili su im da dolaze u centre,
12:00
and this time, we were like,
okay, time for strategy two.
okay, time for strategy two.
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te smo se ovaj put odlučili
za drugu strategiju.
za drugu strategiju.
12:04
We went to the fashion
industry in Pakistan
industry in Pakistan
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Obratili smo se pakistanskoj
modnoj industriji
modnoj industriji
12:06
and decided to do research
about what happens there.
about what happens there.
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i odlučili da istražimo
šta se tamo događa.
šta se tamo događa.
12:10
Turns out the fashion industry in Pakistan
is very strong and growing day by day,
is very strong and growing day by day,
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Ispostavilo se da je modna industrija
u Pakistanu vrlo jaka i da se brzo razvija
u Pakistanu vrlo jaka i da se brzo razvija
12:15
but there is less contribution
from the tribal areas
from the tribal areas
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no da u plemenskim područjima
postoji manji doprinos toj industriji
postoji manji doprinos toj industriji
12:19
and to the tribal areas, especially women.
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kao što je i manji doprinos
tim područjima, posebno ženama.
tim područjima, posebno ženama.
12:22
So we decided to launch our first ever
tribal women's very own fashion brand,
tribal women's very own fashion brand,
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Odlučili smo da pokrenemo našu prvu
modnu marku za žene u plemenima,
modnu marku za žene u plemenima,
12:26
which is now called Nomads.
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koja se zove Nomads.
12:30
And so women started earning more,
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Tako su žene počele da zarađuju više,
12:32
they started contributing more
financially to the house,
financially to the house,
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da više novčano doprinose domaćinstvu,
12:35
and men had to think again
before saying no to them
before saying no to them
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a muškarci su morali dvaput da razmisle
pre nego im zabrane
pre nego im zabrane
12:38
when they were coming to the centers.
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da odlaze u centre.
12:43
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:46
Thank you, thank you.
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Hvala, hvala.
12:48
In 2013, we launched our first
Sughar Hub instead of a center.
Sughar Hub instead of a center.
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Godine 2013. pokrenuli smo prvi
Sughar Hub umesto centra.
Sughar Hub umesto centra.
12:53
We partnered with TripAdvisor
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Sklopili smo partnerski odnos
s TripAdvisor-om
s TripAdvisor-om
12:55
and created a cement hall
in the middle of a village
in the middle of a village
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i izgradili betonsku dvoranu usred sela
12:59
and invited so many other organizations
to work over there.
to work over there.
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i pozvali mnoge druge organizatore
da dođu da rade tamo.
da dođu da rade tamo.
13:03
We created this platform
for the nonprofits
for the nonprofits
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Kreirali smo platformu
za neprofitna udruženja
za neprofitna udruženja
13:05
so they can touch and work
on the other issues
on the other issues
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tako da se mogu baviti drugim problemima
13:08
that Sughar is not working on,
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kojima se Sughar ne bavi,
13:10
which would be an easy place
for them to give trainings,
for them to give trainings,
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a to bi im bilo zgodno mesto
na kojima bi mogli organizovati treninge,
na kojima bi mogli organizovati treninge,
13:14
use it as a farmer school,
even as a marketplace,
even as a marketplace,
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ili koristili kao školu za farmere,
čak i kao pijacu,
čak i kao pijacu,
13:16
and anything they want to use it for,
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ili za bilo kakvu drugu svrhu,
13:19
and they have been doing really amazingly.
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a zaista odlično napreduju.
13:21
And so far, we have been able
to support 900 women
to support 900 women
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Do sada smo uspeli da
pružimo pomoć 900 žena,
pružimo pomoć 900 žena,
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in 24 villages around Pakistan.
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u 24 sela širom Pakistana.
13:28
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:33
But that's actually not what I want.
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No, to nije ono što ja želim.
13:38
My dream is to reach out
to one million women in the next 10 years,
to one million women in the next 10 years,
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Moj je san da u sledećih 10 godina
pomognemo milion žena,
pomognemo milion žena,
13:43
and to make sure that happens,
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a da nam to uspe,
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this year we launched
Sughar Foundation in the U.S.
Sughar Foundation in the U.S.
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ove godine smo pokrenuli
fondaciju Sughar u SAD-u.
fondaciju Sughar u SAD-u.
13:48
It is not just going to fund Sughar
but many other organizations in Pakistan
but many other organizations in Pakistan
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Ona neće samo financirati Sughar
već i mnoge druge organizacije u Pakistanu
već i mnoge druge organizacije u Pakistanu
13:52
to replicate the idea
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s ciljem da se ta ideja umnoži
13:55
and to find even more innovative ways
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i da se pronađe još više
inovativnih načina
inovativnih načina
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to unleash the rural women's
potential in Pakistan.
potential in Pakistan.
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kako bismo oslobodili potencijal
svih žena u ruralnom Pakistanu.
svih žena u ruralnom Pakistanu.
14:01
Thank you so much.
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Hvala vam puno.
14:03
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
14:06
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala. Hvala.
14:11
Chris Anderson: Khalida, you are
quite the force of nature.
quite the force of nature.
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Kris Anderson: Kalida, ti si
prava sila prirode.
prava sila prirode.
14:14
I mean, this story, in many ways,
just seems beyond belief.
just seems beyond belief.
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Ova priča se, na mnogo načina,
čini jednostavno neverovatnom.
čini jednostavno neverovatnom.
14:18
It's incredible that someone
so young could do achieve this much
so young could do achieve this much
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Neverovatno je da neko tako mlad
može postići ovoliko puno
može postići ovoliko puno
14:23
through so much force and ingenuity.
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uz toliku snagu i domišljatost.
14:25
So I guess one question:
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Moje pitanje je:
14:27
This is a spectacular dream to reach out
and empower a million women --
and empower a million women --
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Ovo je izuzetan san - obuhvatiti
i osnažiti milion žena -
i osnažiti milion žena -
14:32
how much of the current
success depends on you,
success depends on you,
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koliko trenutnog uspeha zavisi od tebe,
14:35
the force of this magnetic personality?
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od snage tvoje očaravajuće ličnosti?
14:40
How does it scale?
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Koliki je njen uticaj?
14:42
Khalida Brohi: I think my job
is to give the inspiration out,
is to give the inspiration out,
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Kalida Brohi: Smatram da je
moj zadatak da šaljem inspiraciju,
moj zadatak da šaljem inspiraciju,
14:47
give my dream out.
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da delim svoj san s drugima.
14:49
I can't teach how to do it, because
there are so many different ways.
there are so many different ways.
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Ne mogu naučiti druge kako da to naprave,
jer postoji jako mnogo načina.
jer postoji jako mnogo načina.
14:52
We have been experimenting
with three ways only.
with three ways only.
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Mi smo isprobali samo tri načina.
14:54
There are a hundred different ways
to unleash potential in women.
to unleash potential in women.
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Postoji stotine načina kako možemo
osloboditi potencijal u ženama.
osloboditi potencijal u ženama.
14:58
I would just give the inspiration
and that's my job.
and that's my job.
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Ja samo inspirišem i to je moj zadatak.
15:01
I will keep doing it.
Sughar will still be growing.
Sughar will still be growing.
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Nastaviću s tim.
Sguhar će i dalje rasti.
Sguhar će i dalje rasti.
15:03
We are planning to reach out
to two more villages,
to two more villages,
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Planiramo da obuhvatimo još dva sela,
15:06
and soon I believe
we will be scaling out of Pakistan
we will be scaling out of Pakistan
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i verujem da ćemo se uskoro
proširiti izvan Pakistana
proširiti izvan Pakistana
15:09
into South Asia and beyond.
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u južnu Aziju i dalje.
15:12
CA: I love that when you talked
about your team in the talk,
about your team in the talk,
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KA: Sviđa mi se kako si pričala
o svojem timu,
o svojem timu,
15:15
I mean, you were all 18 at the time.
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vi ste svi u to vreme imali 18 godina.
15:18
What did this team look like?
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Kako je izgledao taj tim?
15:19
This was school friends, right?
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To su bile tvoje prijateljice iz škole?
15:21
KB: Do people here
believe that I'm at an age
believe that I'm at an age
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KB: Nećete verovati da sam sada u uzrastu
15:26
where I'm supposed
to be a grandmother in my village?
to be a grandmother in my village?
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kada bih u svome selu
već trebala biti baka.
već trebala biti baka.
15:29
My mom was married at nine,
and I am the oldest woman not married
and I am the oldest woman not married
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Moja majka je bila udata sa 9 godina,
a ja sam najstarija neudata žena
a ja sam najstarija neudata žena
15:35
and not doing anything
in my life in my village.
in my life in my village.
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koja ne radi ništa u svome selu.
15:38
CA: Wait, wait, wait, not doing anything?
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KA: Čekaj, ne radiš ništa?
15:42
KB: No.
CA: You're right.
CA: You're right.
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KB: Ne.
KA: Imaš pravo.
KA: Imaš pravo.
15:44
KB: People feel sorry for me,
a lot of times.
a lot of times.
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KB: Ljudi me često sažaljevaju.
15:47
CA: But how much time are you spending
now actually back in Balochistan?
now actually back in Balochistan?
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KA: Koliko vremena provodiš u Baločistanu?
15:51
KB: I live over there.
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KB: Tamo živim.
15:53
We live between, still,
Karachi and Balochistan.
Karachi and Balochistan.
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Još uvek živimo na relaciji
Karači - Baločistan.
Karači - Baločistan.
15:56
My siblings are all going to school.
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Moja braća i sestre još pohađaju školu.
15:58
I am still the oldest of eight siblings.
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Ja sam najstarija od osmoro dece.
16:01
CA: But what you're doing is definitely
threatening to some people there.
threatening to some people there.
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KA: No, ovo što radiš sigurno
nekim ljudima predstavlja pretnju.
nekim ljudima predstavlja pretnju.
16:05
How do you handle safety?
Do you feel safe?
Do you feel safe?
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Kako se štitiš? Osećaš li se sigurno?
16:10
Are there issues there?
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Ima li tamo problema?
16:12
KB: This question has come to me
a lot of times before,
a lot of times before,
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KB: Često me to pitaju,
16:16
and I feel like the word "fear"
just comes to me and then drops,
just comes to me and then drops,
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a ja smatram da me reč "strah"
dotakne i onda ode;
dotakne i onda ode;
16:22
but there is one fear that I have
that is different from that.
that is different from that.
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no, imam jedan drukčiji strah.
16:26
The fear is that if I get killed,
what would happen to the people
what would happen to the people
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Bojim se šta će biti sa svim ljudima
koji me vole
koji me vole
16:29
who love me so much?
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ako ja poginem.
16:31
My mom waits for me till late at night
that I should come home.
that I should come home.
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Moja majka me čeka dugo u noć
dok se ne vratim kući.
dok se ne vratim kući.
16:35
My sisters want to learn so much from me,
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Moje sestre žele puno da nauče od mene,
i u mojoj zajednici ima mnogo devojaka
koje žele da razgovaraju sa mnom
koje žele da razgovaraju sa mnom
16:38
and there are many, many girls
in my community who want to talk to me
in my community who want to talk to me
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16:41
and ask me different things,
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i pitaju me razne stvari,
16:44
and I recently got engaged. (Laughs)
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a nedavno sam se i verila. (Smeh)
16:46
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
16:49
CA: Is he here? You've got to stand up.
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KA: Da li je on ovde?
16:52
(Applause)
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Moraš da ustaneš.
17:00
KB: Escaping arranged marriages,
I chose my own husband
I chose my own husband
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KB: Bežeći od ugovorenog braka,
sama sam izabrala muža za sebe,
sama sam izabrala muža za sebe,
17:03
across the world in L.A.,
a really different world.
a really different world.
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s druge strane sveta u Los Angelesu,
u zaista drukčijem svetu.
u zaista drukčijem svetu.
17:08
I had to fight for a whole year.
That's totally a different story.
That's totally a different story.
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Morala sam se boriti godinu dana.
No, to je sasvim druga priča.
No, to je sasvim druga priča.
17:11
But I think that's
the only thing that I'm afraid of,
the only thing that I'm afraid of,
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Mislim da je to jedino čega se bojim,
17:16
and I don't want my mom to not see anyone
when she waits in the night.
when she waits in the night.
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ne želim da me moja majka ne dočeka.
17:21
CA: So people who want
to help you on their way,
to help you on their way,
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KA: Mogu li ljudi koji ti žele pomoći,
17:24
they can go on, they can maybe
buy some of these clothes
buy some of these clothes
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možda kupiti odeću
17:27
that you're bringing over
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koju donosiš sa sobom
17:29
that are actually made, the embroidery
is done back in Balochistan?
is done back in Balochistan?
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koja je proizvedena, vezena u Baločistanu?
17:33
KB: Yeah.
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KB: Tako je.
17:34
CA: Or they can get involved
in the foundation.
in the foundation.
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KA: Mogu li se uključiti u fondaciju?
17:36
KB: Definitely. We are looking
for as many people as we can,
for as many people as we can,
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KB: Svakako. Tražimo što više ljudi,
17:39
because now that the foundation's
in the beginning process,
in the beginning process,
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jer sada kada je fondacija
u početnoj fazi,
u početnoj fazi,
17:43
I am trying to learn a lot
about how to operate,
about how to operate,
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trudim se da naučim kako da radim,
17:45
how to get funding
or reach out to more organizations,
or reach out to more organizations,
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kako da prikupim novac ili kontaktiram
druge organizacije,
druge organizacije,
17:50
and especially in the e-commerce,
which is very new for me.
which is very new for me.
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posebno u trgovini preko interneta,
što je za mene nešto sasvim novo.
što je za mene nešto sasvim novo.
17:53
I mean, I am not
a fashion person, believe me.
a fashion person, believe me.
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Nisam baš osoba koja se bavi modom.
17:55
CA: Well, it's been incredible
to have you here.
to have you here.
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KA: Bila nam je čast ugostiti te ovde.
17:58
Please go on being courageous,
go on being smart, and please stay safe.
go on being smart, and please stay safe.
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Budi i dalje hrabra, i pametna i čuvaj se.
18:03
KB: Thank you so much.
CA: Thank you, Khalida. (Applause)
CA: Thank you, Khalida. (Applause)
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KB: Hvala vam puno.
KA: Hvala tebi, Kalida. (Aplauz)
KA: Hvala tebi, Kalida. (Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Khalida Brohi - Women’s rights activist and entrepreneurIn the tribal region where she was born, Khalida Brohi founded an organization to end honor killings and empower Pakistani women.
Why you should listen
When she was a teenager in the Balochistan region of Pakistan, Khalida Brohi witnessed the honor killing of her friend, who had married for love. Today, she's the founder and executive director of the Sughar Empowerment Society. The nonprofit, whose name means "skilled and confident woman", provides Pakistani tribal women with the education, skills, and income opportunities to empower them to take a leadership role in their households, their communities, and the world.
As she works to reduce endemic violence against women at substantial personal risk, she says, "Not doing this work would kill me. Doing this work would keep me alive.”
More profile about the speakerAs she works to reduce endemic violence against women at substantial personal risk, she says, "Not doing this work would kill me. Doing this work would keep me alive.”
Khalida Brohi | Speaker | TED.com