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Linus Torvalds: The mind behind Linux
Linus Torvalds: Um iza Linuksa
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Linus Torvalds je izmenio tehnologiju dva puta - prvi put softverom Linuks, koji pomaže u pokretanju interneta, i ponovo Gitom, sistemom upravljanja izvornim kodom koga koriste programeri širom sveta. U retkom razgovoru sa kustosom TED-a, Krisom Andersonom, Torvalds raspravlja, izvanrednom otvorenošću, crte ličnosti koje su dovele do njegove jedinstvene filozofije u poslu, inženjeringu i životu. "Nisam vizionar, ja sam inženjer", kaže Torvalds. "Uopšte mi ne smetaju svi ti ljudi koji šetaju okolo i prosto zure u oblake... ali ja gledam u zemlju, i želim da popravim provaliju koja je ispred mene, pre nego u nju upadnem."
Linus Torvalds - Software engineer
In 1991, Linus Torvalds shared the Linux kernel with a few computer hobbyists. The operating system they built reshaped the software industry. Full bio
In 1991, Linus Torvalds shared the Linux kernel with a few computer hobbyists. The operating system they built reshaped the software industry. Full bio
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00:13
Chris Anderson: This is such
a strange thing.
a strange thing.
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Kris Anderson: Ovo je tako čudno.
00:15
Your software, Linux,
is in millions of computers,
is in millions of computers,
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Tvoj softver Linuks
je u milionima kompjutera,
je u milionima kompjutera,
00:18
it probably powers much of the Internet.
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verovatno pokreće veći deo interneta.
00:22
And I think that there are, like,
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I verujem da ima skoro
00:24
a billion and a half active
Android devices out there.
Android devices out there.
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milijardu i po aktivnih android uređaja.
00:27
Your software is in every
single one of them.
single one of them.
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Tvoj softver je u baš svakom od njih.
00:30
It's kind of amazing.
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Nekako je neverovatno.
00:31
You must have some amazing
software headquarters driving all this.
software headquarters driving all this.
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Mora da imaš neverovatno
sedište za softver koje pokreće sve ovo.
sedište za softver koje pokreće sve ovo.
00:37
That's what I thought -- and I was shocked
when I saw a picture of it.
when I saw a picture of it.
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To sam mislio - i šokirao sam se
kad sam video njegovu sliku.
kad sam video njegovu sliku.
00:40
I mean, this is --
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Mislim, ovo je -
00:41
this is the Linux world headquarters.
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ovo je svetsko sedište Linuksa.
00:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:45
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
00:49
Linus Torvalds: It really
doesn't look like much.
doesn't look like much.
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Linus Torvalds: Zaista ne izgleda
bog zna kako.
bog zna kako.
00:52
And I have to say,
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I moram da kažem
00:53
the most interesting part in this picture,
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da je najzanimljiviji deo na slici,
00:57
that people mostly react to,
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na koji ljudi uglavnom reaguju,
00:59
is the walking desk.
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pokretni sto.
01:00
It is the most interesting
part in my office
part in my office
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To je najzanimljiviji deo moje kancelarije
01:03
and I'm not actually using it anymore.
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i ja ga zapravo više ne koristim.
01:05
And I think the two things are related.
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I mislim da su ove dve stvari povezane.
01:09
The way I work is ...
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Način na koji radim...
01:13
I want to not have external stimulation.
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Ne želim da imam spoljne podsticaje.
01:18
You can kind of see,
on the walls are this light green.
on the walls are this light green.
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Možete nekako da vidite,
zidovi su svetlozeleni.
zidovi su svetlozeleni.
01:23
I'm told that at mental institutions
they use that on the walls.
they use that on the walls.
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Rečeno mi je da mentalne institucije
koriste tu boju na zidovima.
koriste tu boju na zidovima.
01:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:29
It's like a calming color,
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To je nekako umirujuća boja,
01:30
it's not something
that really stimulates you.
that really stimulates you.
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nije nešto što bi vas zaista stimulisalo.
01:35
What you can't see is the computer here,
you only see the screen,
you only see the screen,
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Ovde ne vidite kompjuter,
samo vidite ekran,
samo vidite ekran,
01:39
but the main thing I worry
about in my computer is --
about in my computer is --
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ali najvažnije mi je kod kompjutera -
01:42
it doesn't have to be big
and powerful, although I like that --
and powerful, although I like that --
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ne moraju da budu veliki i moćni,
iako mi se i to sviđa -
iako mi se i to sviđa -
01:46
it really has to be completely silent.
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zaista moraju da budu potpuno tihi.
01:49
I know people who work for Google
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Znam ljude koji rade za Gugl
01:52
and they have their own
small data center at home,
small data center at home,
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i imaju svoje male centre za podatke
u svojim domovima,
u svojim domovima,
01:55
and I don't do that.
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a ja to ne radim.
01:56
My office is the most
boring office you'll ever see.
boring office you'll ever see.
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Moja kancelarija je najdosadnija
kancelarija koju ćete ikada videti.
kancelarija koju ćete ikada videti.
02:00
And I sit there alone in the quiet.
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I ja sedim u njoj sam i u tišini.
02:04
If the cat comes up,
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Ako mačka navrati,
02:06
it sits in my lap.
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sedi mi na krilu.
02:08
And I want to hear the cat purring,
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A ja želim da slušam mačku kako prede,
02:10
not the sound of the fans in the computer.
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a ne zvuk ventilatora u kompjuteru.
02:13
CA: So this is astonishing,
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KA: Ovo je zapanjujuće
02:14
because working this way,
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jer radeći na ovaj način,
02:17
you're able to run this vast
technology empire --
technology empire --
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u stanju si da upravljaš
tim ogromnim tehnološkim carstvom -
tim ogromnim tehnološkim carstvom -
02:20
it is an empire --
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radi se o carstvu -
02:21
so that's an amazing testament
to the power of open source.
to the power of open source.
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stoga je to neverovatno svedočanstvo
snage otvorenog koda.
snage otvorenog koda.
02:25
Tell us how you got
to understand open source
to understand open source
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Ispričaj nam kako si savladao otvoreni kod
02:29
and how it lead
to the development of Linux.
to the development of Linux.
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i kako je to dovelo do nastanka Linuksa.
02:33
LT: I mean, I still work alone.
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LT: Mislim, i dalje radim sam.
02:35
Really -- I work alone in my house,
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Zaista - radim sam u svojoj kući,
02:38
often in my bathrobe.
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često u bade-mantilu.
02:40
When a photographer shows up, I dress up,
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Kad fotograf navrati, obučem se,
02:42
so I have clothes on.
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da bih imao odeću na sebi.
02:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:45
And that's how I've always worked.
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I tako sam oduvek radio.
02:47
I mean, this was how I started Linux, too.
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Mislim, ovako sam i Linuks stvorio.
02:49
I did not start Linux
as a collaborative project.
as a collaborative project.
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Nisam stvorio Linuks
da bude sarađivački projekat.
da bude sarađivački projekat.
02:53
I started it as one
in a series of many projects
in a series of many projects
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Stvorio sam ga kao jedan
u nizu mnogih projekata
u nizu mnogih projekata
02:57
I had done at the time for myself,
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koje sam svojevremeno pravio za sebe,
03:01
partly because I needed the end result,
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delimično zbog krajnjeg rezultata,
no i više zato što sam prosto uživao
u programiranju.
u programiranju.
03:03
but even more because I just
enjoyed programming.
enjoyed programming.
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03:06
So it was about the end of the journey,
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Dakle, radilo se o kraju putovanja,
03:10
which, 25 years later,
we still have not reached.
we still have not reached.
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do kog, 25 godina kasnije,
još nismo stigli.
još nismo stigli.
03:13
But it was really about the fact
that I was looking for a project on my own
that I was looking for a project on my own
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Ali zaista se radilo o činjenici
da sam tragao za samostalnim projektom
da sam tragao za samostalnim projektom
03:17
and there was no open source,
really, on my radar at all.
really, on my radar at all.
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i otvoreni kod mi zaista
uopšte nije bio na umu.
uopšte nije bio na umu.
03:21
And what happened is ...
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A desilo se da je...
03:24
the project grows and becomes something
you want to show off to people.
you want to show off to people.
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projekat raste i postane nešto
čime želite da se pohvalite pred ljudima.
čime želite da se pohvalite pred ljudima.
03:30
Really, this is more of a, "Wow,
look at what I did!"
look at what I did!"
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Zaista, ovo je više u fazonu:
"Vau, pogledajte šta sam napravio!"
"Vau, pogledajte šta sam napravio!"
03:34
And trust me -- it was not
that great back then.
that great back then.
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I verujte mi - tada to nije bilo
toliko sjajno.
toliko sjajno.
03:38
I made it publicly available,
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Učinio sam da bude dostupan javnosti
03:40
and it wasn't even
open source at that point.
open source at that point.
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i u tom trenutku
nije čak ni bio otvoren kôd.
nije čak ni bio otvoren kôd.
03:42
At that point it was source that was open,
but there was no intention
but there was no intention
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U tom trenutku je bio dostupan kôd,
ali nije postojala namera
ali nije postojala namera
03:47
behind using the kind of open-source
methodology that we think of today
methodology that we think of today
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njegovog korišćenja u vidu metodologije
otvorenog kôda kakva se danas podrazumeva
otvorenog kôda kakva se danas podrazumeva
03:52
to improve it.
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za unapređivanje.
03:53
It was more like,
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Više je bilo u fazonu:
03:54
"Look, I've been working
on this for half a year,
on this for half a year,
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"Pogledajte, na ovome sam radio
pola godine,
pola godine,
03:58
I'd love to have comments."
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voleo bih da čujem komentare."
04:00
And other people approached me.
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A drugi su mi prilazili.
04:03
At the University of Helsinki,
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Na Univerzitetu Helsinki
04:04
I had a friend who was one
of the open source --
of the open source --
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sam imao prijatelja
koji je pripadao otvorenom kôdu -
koji je pripadao otvorenom kôdu -
04:08
it was called mainly
"free software" back then --
"free software" back then --
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tada se uglavnom to zvalo
"besplatan softver" -
"besplatan softver" -
04:12
and he actually introduced me
to the notion that, hey,
to the notion that, hey,
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i zapravo mi je predstavio ideju
o tome da, hej,
o tome da, hej,
04:16
you can use these open-source
licenses that had been around.
licenses that had been around.
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možeš da koristiš postojeće
licence otvorenih kodova.
licence otvorenih kodova.
04:24
And I thought about it for a while.
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I ja sam razmišljao na kratko o tome.
04:26
I was actually worried about the whole
commercial interests coming in.
commercial interests coming in.
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Zapravo sam brinuo o čitavom
komercijalnom interesu u svemu tome.
komercijalnom interesu u svemu tome.
04:29
I mean, that's one of the worries
I think most people who start out have,
I think most people who start out have,
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Mislim, to je jedna od briga
koju verujem većina ima kad počinje,
koju verujem većina ima kad počinje,
04:34
is that they worry about somebody
taking advantage of their work, right?
taking advantage of their work, right?
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brinu da će neko
da se okoristi njihovim radom.
da se okoristi njihovim radom.
04:39
And I decided, "What the hell?"
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I odlučio sam: "Zašto da ne?"
04:43
And --
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I -
04:44
CA: And then at some point,
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KA: Onda je jednom
04:46
someone contributed
some code that you thought,
some code that you thought,
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neko napravio doprinos nekim kodom
da si pomislio:
da si pomislio:
04:48
"Wow, that really is interesting,
I would not have thought of that.
I would not have thought of that.
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"Opa, to je zaista zanimljivo,
to mi ne bi palo na pamet.
to mi ne bi palo na pamet.
04:51
This could actually improve this."
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Moglo bi zapravo da unapredi ovo."
LT: Nije počelo tako što su ljudi
doprinosili kodovima,
doprinosili kodovima,
04:53
LT: It didn't even start
by people contributing code,
by people contributing code,
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04:56
it was more that people
started contributing ideas.
started contributing ideas.
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više su ljudi doprinosili idejama.
04:59
And just the fact that somebody else
takes a look at your project --
takes a look at your project --
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A sama činjenica da neko drugi
pogleda vaš projekat -
pogleda vaš projekat -
05:03
and I'm sure it's true
of other things, too,
of other things, too,
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i siguran sam da je tako
i kod drugih stvari,
i kod drugih stvari,
05:05
but it's definitely true in code --
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ali je definitivno tačno za kôd -
05:07
is that somebody else
takes an interest in your code,
takes an interest in your code,
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to da se neko drugi
zainteresuje za vaš kôd,
zainteresuje za vaš kôd,
05:10
looks at it enough to actually
give you feedback
give you feedback
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pogleda ga taman toliko
da pruži povratnu informaciju
da pruži povratnu informaciju
05:13
and give you ideas.
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i da vam da ideje.
05:15
That was a huge thing for me.
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To mi je bilo od ogromne važnosti.
05:17
I was 21 at the time, so I was young,
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Tada mi je bila 21 godina,
dakle, bio sam mlad,
dakle, bio sam mlad,
05:20
but I had already programmed
for half my life, basically.
for half my life, basically.
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ali već tada sam proveo
praktično pola života programirajući.
praktično pola života programirajući.
05:24
And every project before that
had been completely personal
had been completely personal
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A svaki prethodni projekat
je bio potpuno lične prirode
je bio potpuno lične prirode
05:28
and it was a revelation when people
just started commenting,
just started commenting,
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i bilo mi je otkrovenje
kad su ljudi počeli prosto da komentarišu,
kad su ljudi počeli prosto da komentarišu,
05:31
started giving feedback on your code.
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da daju povratne informacije o mom kodu.
05:34
And even before they started
giving code back,
giving code back,
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A čak i pre nego što su počeli
da mi vraćaju kôd,
da mi vraćaju kôd,
05:38
that was, I think, one of the big
moments where I said,
moments where I said,
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to je bio, verujem, veliki momenat
kad sam rekao:
kad sam rekao:
05:41
"I love other people!"
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"Volim druge ljude!"
05:43
Don't get me wrong --
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Da ne bude zabune -
05:44
I'm actually not a people person.
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zapravo nisam druželjubiv.
05:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:49
I don't really love other people --
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Zaista ne volim druge ljude -
05:52
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:53
But I love computers,
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Ali volim kompjutere,
volim da kontaktiram
s drugim ljudima putem mejla
s drugim ljudima putem mejla
05:54
I love interacting with other
people on email,
people on email,
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05:57
because it kind of gives you that buffer.
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jer to nekako ublažava stvari.
06:00
But I do love other people who comment
and get involved in my project.
and get involved in my project.
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Ali volim druge ljude koji komentarišu
i uključuju se u moj projekat.
i uključuju se u moj projekat.
06:06
And it made it so much more.
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Tako je postao nešto značajnije.
06:09
CA: So was there a moment
when you saw what was being built
when you saw what was being built
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KA: Da li je postojao momenat
kad si uvideo šta se stvara
kad si uvideo šta se stvara
06:12
and it suddenly started taking off,
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i da iznenada zaživljava
06:14
and you thought, "Wait a sec,
this actually could be something huge,
this actually could be something huge,
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i pomislio si: "Stani malo, ovo bi zapravo
moglo da bude nešto veliko,
moglo da bude nešto veliko,
06:17
not just a personal project
that I'm getting nice feedback on,
that I'm getting nice feedback on,
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a ne puki lični projekat
za koji dobijam dobre reakcije,
za koji dobijam dobre reakcije,
06:20
but a kind of explosive development
in the whole technology world"?
in the whole technology world"?
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već se radi o burnom preokretu
u čitavom svetu tehnologije?"
u čitavom svetu tehnologije?"
06:25
LT: Not really.
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LT: Ne baš,
06:27
I mean, the big point for me, really,
was not when it was becoming huge,
was not when it was becoming huge,
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mislim, važan momenat za mene
nije bio kad je sve postajalo ogromno,
nije bio kad je sve postajalo ogromno,
06:30
it was when it was becoming little.
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već kad je sve postajalo malo.
06:33
The big point for me was not being alone
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Velika stvar za mene
je što više nisam bio sam
je što više nisam bio sam
06:37
and having 10, maybe 100
people being involved --
people being involved --
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već sam imao deset,
možda 100 ljudi koji su uključeni -
možda 100 ljudi koji su uključeni -
06:40
that was a big point.
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to je bila velika stvar.
06:42
Then everything else was very gradual.
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Sve posle toga je bilo postupno.
06:45
Going from 100 people to a million people
is not a big deal -- to me.
is not a big deal -- to me.
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Prelazak sa 100 ljudi na milion ljudi
nije bila velika stvar za mene.
nije bila velika stvar za mene.
06:49
Well, I mean, maybe it is if you're --
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Pa, mislim, možda jeste ako vi -
06:51
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
ako želite prodati svoj rezultat,
onda jeste strašna stvar -
onda jeste strašna stvar -
06:52
If you want to sell your result
then it's a huge deal --
then it's a huge deal --
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06:55
don't get me wrong.
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da se razumemo.
06:56
But if you're interested in the technology
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Ali ako ste zainteresovani za tehnologiju
06:58
and you're interested in the project,
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i zainteresovani za projekat,
07:00
the big part was getting the community.
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važan deo je pridobijanje zajednice.
07:02
Then the community grew gradually.
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Onda je zajednica postupno rasla.
07:04
And there's actually not
a single point where I went like,
a single point where I went like,
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I zapravo nije postojao momenat
kad sam bio u fazonu:
kad sam bio u fazonu:
07:08
"Wow, that just took off!" because it --
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"Ala je ovo baš zaživelo!" jer -
07:10
I mean -- it took a long time, relatively.
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mislim - trebalo je relativno
mnogo vremena.
mnogo vremena.
07:13
CA: So all the technologists
that I talk to really credit you
that I talk to really credit you
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KA: Dakle, svi tehnolozi
s kojim sam razgovarao pripisuju ti
s kojim sam razgovarao pripisuju ti
07:16
with massively changing their work.
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da si im mnogo promenio posao.
07:19
And it's not just Linux,
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Ne radi se samo o Linuksu,
07:21
it's this thing called Git,
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već o nečemu što se zove Git,
07:22
which is this management system
for software development.
for software development.
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to je upravljački sistem
za razvoj softvera.
za razvoj softvera.
07:26
Tell us briefly about that
and your role in that.
and your role in that.
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Ispričaj nam ukratko o tome
i o tvojoj ulozi u tome.
i o tvojoj ulozi u tome.
07:30
LT: So one of the issues we had,
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LT: Jedno od pitanja koje smo imali,
07:32
and this took a while to start to appear,
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a trebalo je vremena da počne da iskače,
07:35
is when you ...
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je kad..
07:37
When you grow from having 10 people
or 100 people working on a project
or 100 people working on a project
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kad broj ljudi koji radi na projektu
poraste od 10 ili 100
poraste od 10 ili 100
07:43
to having 10,000 people, which --
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na 10,000 ljudi što -
07:45
I mean, right now we're in the situation
where just on the kernel,
where just on the kernel,
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mislim, trenutno imamo situaciju
gde samo na jednom softveru
gde samo na jednom softveru
07:48
we have 1,000 people involved
in every single release
in every single release
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imamo uključeno 1,000 ljudi
prilikom svakog objavljivanja,
prilikom svakog objavljivanja,
07:52
and that's every two months,
roughly two or three months.
roughly two or three months.
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a to se dešava na svaka dva meseca,
otprilike dva ili tri meseca.
otprilike dva ili tri meseca.
07:56
Some of those people don't do a lot.
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Neki ljudi ne doprinose mnogo.
07:58
There's a lot of people
who make small, small changes.
who make small, small changes.
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Gomila ljudi pravi male, male promene.
08:01
But to maintain this,
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Ali da biste održavali ovo,
08:03
the scale changes how
you have to maintain it.
you have to maintain it.
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razmere menjaju to kako upravljate time.
08:06
And we went through a lot of pain.
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I prošli smo kroz mnogo muka.
08:10
And there are whole projects
that do only source-code maintenance.
that do only source-code maintenance.
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Imamo čitave projekte koji se jedino bave
održavanjem otvorenog kôda.
održavanjem otvorenog kôda.
08:17
CVS is the one that used to be
the most commonly used,
the most commonly used,
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Nekada je najčešće korišćen CVS,
08:20
and I hated CVS with a passion
and refused to touch it
and refused to touch it
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a ja sam strasno mrzeo CVS
i odbijao sam da ga diram,
i odbijao sam da ga diram,
08:24
and tried something else
that was radical and interesting
that was radical and interesting
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te sam isprobavao nešto drugo
radikalnije i interesantnije
radikalnije i interesantnije
08:27
and everybody else hated.
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što su svi drugi mrzeli.
08:31
CA: (Laughs)
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KA: (Smeje se)
08:32
LT: And we were in this bad spot,
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LT: I bili smo u problemu,
08:34
where we had thousands of people
who wanted to participate,
who wanted to participate,
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imali smo na hiljade ljudi
koji su želeli da učestvuju,
koji su želeli da učestvuju,
08:37
but in many ways,
I was the kind of break point,
I was the kind of break point,
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ali na razne načine
ja sam bio tačka prekida,
ja sam bio tačka prekida,
08:42
where I could not scale to the point
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gde nisam mogao da savladam
08:44
where I could work
with thousands of people.
with thousands of people.
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da radim sa hiljadama ljudi.
08:47
So Git is my second big project,
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Stoga je Git moj drugi veliki projekat,
08:50
which was only created for me
to maintain my first big project.
to maintain my first big project.
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koji je napravljen za mene
kako bi održavao moj prvi veliki projekat.
kako bi održavao moj prvi veliki projekat.
08:55
And this is literally how I work.
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Ja bukvalno tako radim.
08:57
I don't code for --
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Ne kodiram zbog -
09:00
well, I do code for fun --
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dobro, kodiram iz zabave -
09:01
but I want to code
for something meaningful
for something meaningful
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ali želim da kodiram
za nešto što ima smisla,
za nešto što ima smisla,
09:04
so every single project I've ever done
has been something I needed
has been something I needed
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stoga je svaki projekat kojim sam se bavio
bio nešto što mi je trebalo
bio nešto što mi je trebalo
09:08
and --
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i -
09:09
CA: So really, both Linux
and Git kind of arose
and Git kind of arose
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KA: Dakle, zaista, i Linuks i Git
su na neki način proistekli
su na neki način proistekli
09:13
almost as an unintended consequence
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skoro kao nenamerna posledica
09:15
of your desire not to have
to work with too many people.
to work with too many people.
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tvoje želje da ne radiš s previše ljudi.
09:18
LT: Absolutely. Yes.
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LT: Apsolutno. Da.
09:19
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:20
CA: That's amazing.
LT: Yeah.
LT: Yeah.
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KA: To je neverovatno.
LT: Da.
LT: Da.
09:22
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
09:23
And yet, you're the man
who's transformed technology
who's transformed technology
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Pa, ipak, ti si čovek
koji je transformisao tehnologiju,
koji je transformisao tehnologiju,
09:27
not just once but twice,
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ne jednom, već dva puta
09:28
and we have to try
and understand why it is.
and understand why it is.
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i moramo da pokušamo
da raumemo zašto je to tako.
da raumemo zašto je to tako.
09:31
You've given us some clues, but ...
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Malo si nam nagovestio, ali...
09:32
Here's a picture of you as a kid,
with a Rubik's Cube.
with a Rubik's Cube.
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Ovo je slika tebe kao dečaka,
s Rubikovom kockom.
s Rubikovom kockom.
09:37
You mentioned that you've been
programming since you were like 10 or 11,
programming since you were like 10 or 11,
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Pomenuo si da programiraš
od svoje 10 ili 11. godine,
od svoje 10 ili 11. godine,
09:41
half your life.
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pola svog života.
09:43
Were you this sort of computer
genius, you know, übernerd,
genius, you know, übernerd,
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Da li si bio tip kompjuterskog genijalca,
znaš, nadštreber,
znaš, nadštreber,
09:46
were you the star at school
who could do everything?
who could do everything?
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jesi li bio školska faca
koja može da uradi bilo šta?
koja može da uradi bilo šta?
09:49
What were you like as a kid?
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Kakav si bio kao dete?
09:52
LT: Yeah, I think I was
the prototypical nerd.
the prototypical nerd.
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LT: Da, mislim da sam bio
prototip štrebera.
prototip štrebera.
09:54
I mean, I was ...
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Mislim, bio sam...
09:57
I was not a people person back then.
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Nisam ni tad bio druželjubiv.
09:59
That's my younger brother.
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To je moj mlađi brat.
10:01
I was clearly more interested
in the Rubik's Cube
in the Rubik's Cube
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Mene očigledno više interesuje
Rubikova kocka
Rubikova kocka
10:04
than my younger brother.
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od mog mlađeg brata.
10:06
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:07
My younger sister,
who's not in the picture,
who's not in the picture,
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Moja mlađa sestra, koje nema na slici,
10:10
when we had family meetings --
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kad bismo imali porodična okupljanja -
10:12
and it's not a huge family, but I have,
like, a couple of cousins --
like, a couple of cousins --
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a ne radi se o velikoj porodici,
ali imam otprilike nekoliko rođaka -
ali imam otprilike nekoliko rođaka -
10:16
she would prep me beforehand.
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ona bi me unapred pripremala.
10:19
Like, before I stepped
into the room she would say,
into the room she would say,
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Kao, pre nego bih zakoračio u prostoriju
ona bi rekla:
ona bi rekla:
10:22
"OK. That's so-and-so ..."
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"U redu. Tako i tako..."
10:25
Because I was not --
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Jer nisam bio -
10:28
I was a geek.
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bio sam čudak.
Zanimali su me kompjuteri,
10:29
I was into computers,
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10:30
I was into math,
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matematika,
10:31
I was into physics.
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fizika.
10:33
I was good at that.
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Bio sam dobar u tome.
10:34
I don't think I was
particularly exceptional.
particularly exceptional.
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Mislim da nisam bio naročito izuzetan.
10:37
Apparently, my sister said
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Očito, moja sestra bi rekla
10:39
that my biggest exceptional quality
was that I would not let go.
was that I would not let go.
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da je moja najizuzetnija vrlina
to što neću da se okanim.
to što neću da se okanim.
10:47
CA: OK, so let's go there,
because that's interesting.
because that's interesting.
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KA: U redu, počnimo odatle
jer je to zanimljivo.
jer je to zanimljivo.
10:50
You would not let go.
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Ne možeš da se okaniš.
10:51
So that's not about being
a geek and being smart,
a geek and being smart,
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Dakle ne radi se o tome
da si štreber i da si pametan,
da si štreber i da si pametan,
10:54
that's about being ... stubborn?
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radi se o tome da si... tvrdoglav?
10:57
LT: That's about being stubborn.
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LT: Radi se o tvrdoglavosti.
10:58
That's about, like,
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Radi se o tome da,
11:01
just starting something
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kad upravo započnete nešto
11:03
and not saying, "OK, I'm done,
let's do something else --
let's do something else --
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i ne kažete: "U redu, završio sam,
radimo nešto drugo -
radimo nešto drugo -
11:08
Look: shiny!"
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vidi, nešto svetlucavo!"
11:10
And I notice that in many
other parts in my life, too.
other parts in my life, too.
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Primetio sam to
i u drugim oblastima mog života.
i u drugim oblastima mog života.
11:15
I lived in Silicon Valley for seven years.
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Živeo sam sedam godina
u Silicijumskoj dolini.
u Silicijumskoj dolini.
11:18
And I worked for the same
company, in Silicon Valley,
company, in Silicon Valley,
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I radio sam za istu firmu
u Silicijumskoj dolini,
u Silicijumskoj dolini,
11:22
for the whole time.
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sve vreme.
11:24
That is unheard of.
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To je nezapamćeno.
Tako ne funkcioniše Silicijumska dolina.
11:27
That's not how Silicon Valley works.
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11:28
The whole point of Silicon Valley
is that people jump between jobs
is that people jump between jobs
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Čitava poenta Silicijumske doline
je da ljudi prelaze s posla na posao
je da ljudi prelaze s posla na posao
11:32
to kind of mix up the pot.
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kako bi se napravio bućkuriš.
11:35
And that's not the kind of person I am.
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A ja nisam takva osoba.
11:37
CA: But during the actual
development of Linux itself,
development of Linux itself,
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KA: Međutim tokom
razvoja samog Linuksa
razvoja samog Linuksa
11:39
that stubbornness sometimes brought
you in conflict with other people.
you in conflict with other people.
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ta tvrdoglavost te je ponekad dovodila
u sukob s drugim ljudima.
u sukob s drugim ljudima.
11:44
Talk about that a bit.
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Pričaj nam malo o tome.
11:46
Was that essential to sort of maintain
the quality of what was being built?
the quality of what was being built?
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Je li to bilo krucijalno za održavanje
kvaliteta onoga što ste pravili?
kvaliteta onoga što ste pravili?
11:51
How would you describe what happened?
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Kako bi objasnio šta se desilo?
11:54
LT: I don't know if it's essential.
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LT: Ne znam da li je krucijalno.
11:57
Going back to the "I'm not
a people person," --
a people person," --
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Vratiću se na to
da "nisam druželjubiva osoba" -
da "nisam druželjubiva osoba" -
12:00
sometimes I'm also ...
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ponekad sam takođe...
12:04
shall we say,
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da li da kažem,
12:05
"myopic" when it comes
to other people's feelings,
to other people's feelings,
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"kratkovid" kad su u pitanju
osećanja drugih ljudi,
osećanja drugih ljudi,
12:09
and that sometimes makes you
say things that hurt other people.
say things that hurt other people.
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a zbog toga ponekad kažete nešto
što povređuje druge ljude.
što povređuje druge ljude.
12:14
And I'm not proud of that.
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I nisam ponosan na to.
12:18
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:19
But, at the same time, it's --
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Ali istovremeno se radi -
12:22
I get people who tell me
that I should be nice.
that I should be nice.
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razumem ljude koji mi govore
da bi trebalo da budem ljubazan.
da bi trebalo da budem ljubazan.
12:26
And then when I try to explain to them
that maybe you're nice,
that maybe you're nice,
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A onda kad pokušam da im objasnim
da su oni možda ljubazni,
da su oni možda ljubazni,
12:32
maybe you should be more aggressive,
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možda bi trebalo da budu agresivniji,
12:34
they see that as me being not nice.
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oni to vide kao neljubaznost.
12:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:40
What I'm trying to say
is we are different.
is we are different.
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Pokušavam da kažem
da smo svi mi različiti.
da smo svi mi različiti.
12:42
I'm not a people person;
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Ja nisam druželjubiv;
12:44
it's not something
I'm particularly proud of,
I'm particularly proud of,
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nije to nešto na šta sam naročito ponosan,
12:46
but it's part of me.
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ali je deo mene.
12:48
And one of the things
I really like about open source
I really like about open source
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A jedna stvar koja mi se zaista sviđa
kod otvorenog kôda
kod otvorenog kôda
12:50
is it really allows different
people to work together.
people to work together.
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je to što zaista omogućuje
različitim ljudima da rade zajedno.
različitim ljudima da rade zajedno.
12:56
We don't have to like each other --
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Ne moramo da se međusobno volimo -
12:58
and sometimes we really
don't like each other.
don't like each other.
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a ponekad se zaista ne sviđamo
jedni drugima.
jedni drugima.
13:00
Really -- I mean, there are very,
very heated arguments.
very heated arguments.
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Zaista - ima tu veoma,
veoma žustrih rasprava.
veoma žustrih rasprava.
13:04
But you can, actually,
you can find things that --
you can find things that --
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Ali možete, zapravo,
možete da otkrijete stvari -
možete da otkrijete stvari -
13:08
you don't even agree to disagree,
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čak se ni ne slažete da se ne slažete,
13:10
it's just that you're interested
in really different things.
in really different things.
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prosto vas zanimaju
potpuno različite stvari.
potpuno različite stvari.
13:13
And coming back to the point
where I said earlier
where I said earlier
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Vratiću se na mesto od ranije
gde sam rekao
gde sam rekao
13:16
that I was afraid of commercial people
taking advantage of your work,
taking advantage of your work,
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kako sam se plašio da će komercijalisti
da se okoriste mojim radom,
da se okoriste mojim radom,
13:20
it turned out, and very
quickly turned out,
quickly turned out,
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ispostavilo se,
i to se veoma brzo ispostavilo,
i to se veoma brzo ispostavilo,
13:23
that those commercial people
were lovely, lovely people.
were lovely, lovely people.
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da su ti komercijalisti
dragi, dragi ljudi.
dragi, dragi ljudi.
13:26
And they did all the things that I was not
at all interested in doing,
at all interested in doing,
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I obavili su sve ono
što mene nije zanimalo da radim,
što mene nije zanimalo da radim,
13:30
and they had completely different goals.
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a imali su potpuno različite ciljeve.
13:32
And they used open source in ways
that I just did not want to go.
that I just did not want to go.
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I koristili su otvoreni kôd na načine
kojim prosto nisam želeo da se bavim.
kojim prosto nisam želeo da se bavim.
13:37
But because it was open
source they could do it,
source they could do it,
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No, kako se radilo o otvorenom kôdu,
mogli su,
mogli su,
13:39
and it actually works
really beautifully together.
really beautifully together.
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i to zapravo sve zajedno
savršeno funkcioniše.
savršeno funkcioniše.
13:42
And I actually think
it works the same way.
it works the same way.
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I zapravo mislim da isto funkcioniše.
13:44
You need to have the people-people,
the communicators,
the communicators,
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Morate da imate druželjubive ljude,
komunikatore,
komunikatore,
13:47
the warm and friendly people
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topla i prijateljska lica
13:49
who like --
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koji su u fazonu -
13:50
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:52
really want to hug you
and get you into the community.
and get you into the community.
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da zaista žele da vas zagrle
i da vas uvedu u zajednicu.
i da vas uvedu u zajednicu.
13:55
But that's not everybody.
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Ali svi nisu takvi.
13:56
And that's not me.
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Ja nisam takav.
13:58
I care about the technology.
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Mene interesuje tehnologija.
13:59
There are people who care about the UI.
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Neke ljude zanima korisnički interfejs.
14:01
I can't do UI to save my life.
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Ne bih mogao ni za spas života
da napravim korisnički interfejs.
da napravim korisnički interfejs.
14:04
I mean, if I was stranded on an island
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Mislim, kad bih se nasukao na pusto ostrvo
14:07
and the only way to get off that island
was the make a pretty UI,
was the make a pretty UI,
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i jedini način da odem s ostrva
je da napravim lep korisnički interfejs,
je da napravim lep korisnički interfejs,
14:11
I'd die there.
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umro bih tamo.
14:12
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:13
So there's different kinds of people,
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Dakle, postoje razni ljudi;
14:15
and I'm not making excuses,
I'm trying to explain.
I'm trying to explain.
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i ne pravdam se, pokušavam da objasnim.
14:18
CA: Now, when we talked last week,
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KA: Kad smo pričali prošle sedmice,
14:20
you talked about some
other trait that you have,
other trait that you have,
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govorio si o još jednoj osobini
koju poseduješ,
koju poseduješ,
14:22
which I found really interesting.
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a koja je meni zaista zanimljiva.
14:24
It's this idea called taste.
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Ideja koja se naziva ukusom.
14:25
And I've just got a couple of images here.
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I imam ovde nekoliko slika.
14:28
I think this is an example of not
particularly good taste in code,
particularly good taste in code,
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Verujem da je ovo primer
ne naročito dobrog ukusa u kodiranju,
ne naročito dobrog ukusa u kodiranju,
14:32
and this one is better taste,
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a ovaj je s više ukusa,
14:35
which one can immediately see.
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to svako odmah primeti.
14:37
What is the difference between these two?
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U čemu je razlika među njima?
14:40
LT: So this is --
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LT: Dakle, ovo je -
14:41
How many people here actually have coded?
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Koliko se vas ovde bavilo kodiranjem?
14:45
CA: Oh my goodness.
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KA: O, gospode.
14:47
LT: So I guarantee you,
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LT: Pa, garantujem vam,
14:48
everybody who raised their hand,
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svi koji su podigli ruke,
radili su ono što se naziva
jednostruko povezanim listama.
jednostruko povezanim listama.
14:49
they have done what's called
a singly-linked list.
a singly-linked list.
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14:52
And it's taught --
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To se uči -
14:55
This, the first not very
good taste approach,
good taste approach,
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Ovo, prvo nije pristup
naročito dobrog ukusa,
naročito dobrog ukusa,
14:58
is basically how it's taught to be done
when you start out coding.
when you start out coding.
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u suštini tako vas uče
kad počnete da kodirate.
kad počnete da kodirate.
15:02
And you don't have to understand the code.
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I ne morate da razumete kôd.
15:04
The most interesting part to me
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Najzanimljiviji deo za mene
15:06
is the last if statement.
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je poslednji iskaz "ako".
15:10
Because what happens
in a singly-linked list --
in a singly-linked list --
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Jer u jednostruko povezanim listama
se dešava -
se dešava -
15:13
this is trying to remove
an existing entry from a list --
an existing entry from a list --
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ovo pokušava da ukloni
postojeći unos sa liste -
postojeći unos sa liste -
15:16
and there's a difference
between if it's the first entry
between if it's the first entry
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a postoji razlika
u tome da li se radi o prvom unosu
u tome da li se radi o prvom unosu
15:20
or whether it's an entry in the middle.
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ili se radi o unosu u sredini.
15:22
Because if it's the first entry,
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Jer ako se radi o prvom unosu,
15:24
you have to change
the pointer to the first entry.
the pointer to the first entry.
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morate da promenite
pokazivač na prvi unos.
pokazivač na prvi unos.
15:27
If it's in the middle,
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Ako je u sredini,
15:28
you have to change the pointer
of a previous entry.
of a previous entry.
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morate da promenite pokazivač
kod prethodnog unosa.
kod prethodnog unosa.
15:31
So they're two completely different cases.
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Radi se o dva potpuno različita slučaja.
15:33
CA: And that's better.
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KA: A taj je bolji.
15:34
LT: And this is better.
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LT: Ovaj je bolji.
15:35
It does not have the if statement.
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Nema "ako" iskaz.
15:38
And it doesn't really matter --
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I nije zaista bitno -
15:40
I don't want you understand
why it doesn't have the if statement,
why it doesn't have the if statement,
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ne želim da shvatite
zašto nema "ako" iskaz,
zašto nema "ako" iskaz,
15:44
but I want you to understand
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ali želim da razumete
15:45
that sometimes you can see
a problem in a different way
a problem in a different way
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da ponekad možete
da posmatrate problem drugačije
da posmatrate problem drugačije
15:48
and rewrite it so that
a special case goes away
a special case goes away
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i da ga prepravite
kako bi nestao specijalan slučaj
kako bi nestao specijalan slučaj
15:51
and becomes the normal case.
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i postao običan slučaj.
15:53
And that's good code.
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A to je dobar kôd.
15:55
But this is simple code.
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Ali ovo je prost kôd.
Ovo su osnove kompjuterskog softvera.
15:56
This is CS 101.
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15:58
This is not important --
although, details are important.
although, details are important.
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Ovo nije važno - iako su detalji važni.
16:01
To me, the sign of people
I really want to work with
I really want to work with
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Za mene, znak da zaista želim
da radim s ljudima
da radim s ljudima
16:05
is that they have good taste,
which is how ...
which is how ...
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je kad imaju dobar ukus, na taj način...
16:09
I sent you this stupid example
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Poslao sam vam ovaj glupi primer
16:10
that is not relevant
because it's too small.
because it's too small.
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koji nije relevantan jer je suviše kratak.
16:13
Good taste is much bigger than this.
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Dobar ukus je mnogo više od ovoga.
16:15
Good taste is about really
seeing the big patterns
seeing the big patterns
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Dobar ukus je kad zaista
vidite velike obrasce
vidite velike obrasce
16:19
and kind of instinctively knowing
what's the right way to do things.
what's the right way to do things.
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i kad instinktivno znate
koji je pravi način da radite nešto.
koji je pravi način da radite nešto.
16:24
CA: OK, so we're putting
the pieces together here now.
the pieces together here now.
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KA: U redu, trenutno sklapamo kockice.
16:27
You have taste,
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Ti imaš ukusa,
16:30
in a way that's meaningful
to software people.
to software people.
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na način koji je značajan
programerima softvera.
programerima softvera.
16:32
You're --
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Ti si -
16:33
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:35
LT: I think it was meaningful
to some people here.
to some people here.
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LT: Mislim da je bilo značajno
za neke ljude ovde.
za neke ljude ovde.
16:39
CA: You're a very smart computer coder,
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KA: Ti si veoma pametan programer
16:42
and you're hellish stubborn.
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i prokleto si tvrdoglav.
16:45
But there must be something else.
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Međutim, mora da ima još nešto.
16:47
I mean, you've changed the future.
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Mislim, promenio si budućnost.
16:48
You must have the ability
of these grand visions of the future.
of these grand visions of the future.
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Mora da imaš moć
za te velike vizije budućnosti.
za te velike vizije budućnosti.
16:51
You're a visionary, right?
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Ti si vizionar, zar ne?
16:53
LT: I've actually felt slightly
uncomfortable at TED
uncomfortable at TED
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LT: Zapravo osećam
blagu neprijatnost na TED-u
blagu neprijatnost na TED-u
16:55
for the last two days,
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u protekla dva dana
16:57
because there's a lot
of vision going on, right?
of vision going on, right?
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jer ovde imamo mnogo vizija, zar ne?
17:00
And I am not a visionary.
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A ja nisam vizionar.
17:02
I do not have a five-year plan.
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Nemam petogodišnji plan.
17:04
I'm an engineer.
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Ja sam inženjer.
17:05
And I think it's really --
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I mislim da je to zaista -
17:07
I mean -- I'm perfectly
happy with all the people
happy with all the people
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mislim - uopšte mi ne smetaju svi ti ljudi
17:09
who are walking around
and just staring at the clouds
and just staring at the clouds
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koji šetaju okolo i prosto zure u oblake
17:12
and looking at the stars
and saying, "I want to go there."
and saying, "I want to go there."
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i gledaju u zvezde
i govore: "Želim da stignem tamo."
i govore: "Želim da stignem tamo."
17:15
But I'm looking at the ground,
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Ali ja gledam u zemlju
17:16
and I want to fix the pothole
that's right in front of me
that's right in front of me
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i želim da popravim provaliju
koja je ispred mene
koja je ispred mene
17:19
before I fall in.
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pre nego što u nju upadnem.
17:20
This is the kind of person I am.
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Takva sam osoba.
17:22
(Cheers)
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(Klicanje)
17:23
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
17:25
CA: So you spoke to me last week
about these two guys.
about these two guys.
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KA: Govorio si mi prošle nedelje
o ova dva čoveka.
o ova dva čoveka.
17:29
Who are they and how
do you relate to them?
do you relate to them?
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Ko su oni i kako se poistovećuješ s njima?
17:32
LT: Well, so this is kind
of cliché in technology,
of cliché in technology,
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LT: Pa, ovo je nekakav tehnološki kliše,
17:35
the whole Tesla versus Edison,
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sva ta fama Tesla protiv Edisona,
17:37
where Tesla is seen as the visionary
scientist and crazy idea man.
scientist and crazy idea man.
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gde Teslu vide kao vizionara naučnika
i čoveka s ludim idejama.
i čoveka s ludim idejama.
17:42
And people love Tesla.
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A ljudi vole Teslu.
17:45
I mean, there are people who name
their companies after him.
their companies after him.
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Mislim, neki ljudi nazivaju
firme po njemu.
firme po njemu.
17:48
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:51
The other person there is Edison,
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Druga osoba ovde je Edison,
17:54
who is actually often vilified
for being kind of pedestrian
for being kind of pedestrian
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koga često kleveću
da je bio nekako neinspirativan
da je bio nekako neinspirativan
17:57
and is --
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1921
i jeste -
17:59
I mean, his most famous quote is,
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mislim, njegov najčuveniji citat je:
18:02
"Genius is one percent inspiration
and 99 percent perspiration."
and 99 percent perspiration."
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"Genije je jedan procenat inspiracija,
a 99 procenata vredan rad."
a 99 procenata vredan rad."
18:07
And I'm in the Edison camp,
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A ja sam u Edisonovom kampu,
18:08
even if people don't always like him.
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čak iako ga ljudi nužno ne vole.
18:11
Because if you actually compare the two,
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Jer ako zapravo uporedite ovu dvojicu,
18:14
Tesla has kind of this mind
grab these days,
grab these days,
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4533
Tesla nam zaokuplja umove ovih dana,
18:18
but who actually changed the world?
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ali ko je zapravo promenio svet?
18:21
Edison may not have been a nice person,
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Edison možda nije bio draga osoba,
18:25
he did a lot of things --
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uradio je mnogo toga -
18:28
he was maybe not so intellectual,
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možda nije bio toliko inteligentan,
18:30
not so visionary.
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nije bio naročit vizionar.
18:33
But I think I'm more
of an Edison than a Tesla.
of an Edison than a Tesla.
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Ali mislim da sam sličniji Edisonu
nego Tesli.
nego Tesli.
KA: Dakle, naša ovonedeljna tema na TED-u
su snovi -
su snovi -
18:37
CA: So our theme at TED
this week is dreams --
this week is dreams --
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veliki, hrabri, odvažni snovi.
18:40
big, bold, audacious dreams.
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18:41
You're really the antidote to that.
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Ti si zaista suprotnost tome.
18:43
LT: I'm trying to dial it down a bit, yes.
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LT: Pokušavam malo da spustim loptu, da.
18:45
CA: That's good.
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KA: To je dobro.
18:46
(Laughter)
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1080
(Smeh)
18:47
We embrace you, we embrace you.
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Mi te prihvatamo, prihvatamo te.
18:51
Companies like Google and many
others have made, arguably,
others have made, arguably,
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Firme, poput Gugla i mnogih drugih,
su zaradile verovatno
su zaradile verovatno
18:53
like, billions of dollars
out of your software.
out of your software.
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na milijarde dolara na tvom softveru.
18:56
Does that piss you off?
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Da li te to nervira?
18:57
LT: No.
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1151
LT: Ne.
18:58
No, it doesn't piss me off
for several reasons.
for several reasons.
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Ne nervira me iz nekoliko razloga.
19:01
And one of them is, I'm doing fine.
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A jedan od njih je da mi dobro ide.
19:03
I'm really doing fine.
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1296
Zaista mi dobro ide.
19:04
But the other reason is --
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Ali drugi razlog je -
19:06
I mean, without doing the whole
open source and really letting go thing,
open source and really letting go thing,
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mislim, da se nisam bavio otvorenim kodom
i zaista poklanjanjem,
i zaista poklanjanjem,
19:11
Linux would never have been what it is.
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Linuks nikad ne bi postao ono što jeste.
19:14
And it's brought experiences
I don't really enjoy, public talking,
I don't really enjoy, public talking,
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I donelo je iskustva,
ja zaista ne uživam da govorim u javnosti,
ja zaista ne uživam da govorim u javnosti,
19:19
but at the same time,
this is an experience.
this is an experience.
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ali istovremeno je i ovo iskustvo.
19:21
Trust me.
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Verujte mi.
19:23
So there's a lot of things going on
that make me a very happy man
that make me a very happy man
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Dakle, mnogo toga se dešava
što me usrećuje
što me usrećuje
19:28
and thinking I did the right choices.
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i uverava da sam napravio prave izbore.
19:30
CA: Is the open source idea --
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KA: Da li je ideja o otvorenom kôdu -
ovo je, mislim da ovim završavamo -
19:32
this is, I think we'll end here --
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19:34
is the open source idea
fully realized now in the world,
fully realized now in the world,
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da li je ideja o otvorenom kôdu
u potpunosti realizovana trenutno u svetu
u potpunosti realizovana trenutno u svetu
19:38
or is there more that it could go,
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ili ima još mesta za njenu upotrebu,
19:41
are there more things that it could do?
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ima li još nešto što bi mogla da postigne?
19:44
LT: So, I'm of two minds there.
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LT: Ovde se dvoumim.
19:46
I think one reason open source
works so well in code
works so well in code
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Mislim da je razlog zašto otvoreni kôd
dobro funkcioniše u kodiranju
dobro funkcioniše u kodiranju
19:51
is that at the end of the day,
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to što kad se sve svede,
19:53
code tends to be somewhat black and white.
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kôd je nekako crno-beo.
19:57
There's often a fairly good way to decide,
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4157
Često imate poprilično
dobar način da odlučite
dobar način da odlučite
20:01
this is done correctly
and this is not done well.
and this is not done well.
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šta je urađeno tačno, a šta nije.
20:05
Code either works or it doesn't,
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Kôd ili funkcioniše ili ne funkcioniše,
20:07
which means that there's less
room for arguments.
room for arguments.
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što znači da ima manje
prostora za rasprave.
prostora za rasprave.
20:12
And we have arguments despite this, right?
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A mi ipak raspravljamo,
uprkos tome, zar ne?
uprkos tome, zar ne?
20:16
In many other areas --
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U mnogim drugim oblastima -
20:17
I mean, people have talked about
open politics and things like that --
open politics and things like that --
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mislim, ljudi su govorili
o otvorenoj politici i slično -
o otvorenoj politici i slično -
20:21
and it's really hard sometimes to say
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i zaista je teško ponekad reći
20:24
that, yes, you can apply the same
principles in some other areas
principles in some other areas
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3757
da, da, možete primeniti
iste principe u nekim drugim oblastima
iste principe u nekim drugim oblastima
20:28
just because the black and white
turns into not just gray,
turns into not just gray,
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samo zato što se crno i belo
ne pretvaraju prosto u sivo,
ne pretvaraju prosto u sivo,
20:33
but different colors.
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već u različite boje.
20:36
So, obviously open source in science
is making a comeback.
is making a comeback.
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Pa, očigledno se otvoreno deljenje
vraća u nauku.
vraća u nauku.
20:40
Science was there first.
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U nauci je i nastalo.
20:42
But then science ended up
being pretty closed,
being pretty closed,
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Ali potom je nauka postala
prilično zatvorena,
prilično zatvorena,
20:45
with very expensive journals
and some of that going on.
and some of that going on.
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sa veoma skupim časopisima
i sličnim pojavama.
i sličnim pojavama.
20:48
And open source is making
a comeback in science,
a comeback in science,
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A otvoreno deljenje se vraća u nauku,
20:52
with things like arXiv and open journals.
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sa pojavama poput arXiv-a
i otvorenih časopisa.
i otvorenih časopisa.
20:59
Wikipedia changed the world, too.
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I Vikipedija je promenila svet.
21:01
So there are other examples,
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Pa ima tu i drugih primera
21:02
I'm sure there are more to come.
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i siguran sam da će ih biti još.
21:05
CA: But you're not a visionary,
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KA: Ali ti nisi vizionar,
21:07
and so it's not up to you to name them.
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pa nije na tebi da ih imenuješ.
21:09
LT: No.
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LT: Ne.
21:10
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Ljudi, na vama je da ih ostvarite, zar ne?
21:11
It's up to you guys to make them, right?
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21:13
CA: Exactly.
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KA: Tačno tako.
21:14
Linus Torvalds,
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Linuse Torvaldse,
21:15
thank you for Linux,
thank you for the Internet,
thank you for the Internet,
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hvala ti za Linuks, hvala ti za internet,
21:18
thank you for all those Android phones.
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hvala ti za sve telefone s androidom.
21:20
Thank you for coming here to TED
and revealing so much of yourself.
and revealing so much of yourself.
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Hvala ti što si došao na TED
i otkrio toliko o sebi.
i otkrio toliko o sebi.
21:23
LT: Thank you.
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LT: Hvala vama.
21:24
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Linus Torvalds - Software engineerIn 1991, Linus Torvalds shared the Linux kernel with a few computer hobbyists. The operating system they built reshaped the software industry.
Why you should listen
Fascinated by the economy and elegance of experimental operating system Minix, computer scientist Linus Torvalds wrote an operating system kernel and shared it with independent programmers. The system that they fleshed out and released in 1994 -- Linux -- was remarkable not only for its utility and efficiency but also for the collaboration of its community.
Now enjoying mainstream respectability (and the support of the computer industry), Linux runs on the servers of Amazon, Google, and much of the wired world. As the sole arbiter of code for the Linux Foundation (which he characteristically downplays by saying “the only power I have is to say ‘no’”), Torvalds quietly inspires open-source projects worldwide.
Linus Torvalds | Speaker | TED.com