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Sofia Jawed-Wessel: The lies we tell pregnant women
索菲亞·賈維德-維斯爾: 我們告訴孕婦的謊言
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「當我們告訴女性在懷孕期間不值得為性行爲冒險，我們實際是告訴她們她的性愉悅是不重要的……實際上她是無關緊要的。」性研究學者索菲亞·賈維德-維斯爾這樣說。 在這個大開眼界的演講裏，索菲亞帶我們深入了解對懷孕和愉悅的認識，以及女性、性和權利體系的關係。
Sofia Jawed-Wessel - Sex researcher
Sofia Jawed-Wessel's teachings utilize a sex-positive and pleasure-inclusive approach to providing medically accurate, comprehensive sexuality education. Full bio
Sofia Jawed-Wessel's teachings utilize a sex-positive and pleasure-inclusive approach to providing medically accurate, comprehensive sexuality education. Full bio
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00:12
We're going to share
a lot of secrets today, you and I,
a lot of secrets today, you and I,
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今天你們和我將分享很多秘密。
00:15
and in doing so, I hope that we can lift
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這麼做的目的是，
00:18
some of the shame
many of us feel about sex.
many of us feel about sex.
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我希望可以消除一些
我們對性的羞恥感。
我們對性的羞恥感。
00:22
How many here have ever been
catcalled by a stranger?
catcalled by a stranger?
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在座各位，有多少人
曾被陌生人吹口哨？
曾被陌生人吹口哨？
00:28
Lots of women.
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很多女士。
00:30
For me, the time I remember best
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對我來說，我記得最清楚的是，
00:33
is when that stranger
was a student of mine.
was a student of mine.
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那個陌生人是我的一個學生。
00:37
He came up to me after class that night
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那晚下課後，他來找我，
00:40
and his words confirmed
what I already knew:
what I already knew:
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他的話證實了我已知道的，
00:43
"I am so sorry, professor.
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「非常抱歉，教授。
00:45
If I had known it was you,
I would never have said those things."
I would never have said those things."
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如果早知道是您，
我怎麼也不會說那些話。 」
我怎麼也不會說那些話。 」
00:49
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
00:51
I wasn't a person to him
until I was his professor.
until I was his professor.
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對他來說，如果我不是他的教授，
他就沒把我是一個人。
他就沒把我是一個人。
00:56
This concept, called objectification,
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這就是所謂「人格物化」的概念，
00:59
is the foundation of sexism,
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這是性別歧視的基礎。
01:01
and we see it reinforced
through every aspect of our lives.
through every aspect of our lives.
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我們在生活的各個層面，
看到它不斷的被強化，
看到它不斷的被強化，
01:07
We see it in the government
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我們可從政府部門
01:09
that refuses to punish men
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拒絕懲罰那些
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for raping women.
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強姦婦女的男人看到。
01:15
We see it in advertisements.
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我們在廣告裡看到。
01:17
How many of you have seen an advertisement
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有多少人曾經看過廣告中
01:19
that uses a woman's breast
to sell an entirely unrelated product?
to sell an entirely unrelated product?
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用女性的胸部
來推廣毫不相干的產品？
來推廣毫不相干的產品？
01:26
Or movie after movie after movie
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還有，一部接一部的電影裡，
01:30
that portrays women
as only love interests?
as only love interests?
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女性被刻畫成只是愛情目標？
01:34
These examples might seem
inconsequential and harmless,
inconsequential and harmless,
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這些例子看似無關緊要，無傷大雅，
01:37
but they're insidious,
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但實際上他們的殺傷力很大，
01:39
slowly building into a culture
that refuses to see women as people.
that refuses to see women as people.
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慢慢滲入成一種
無視女性為人的文化。
無視女性為人的文化。
01:43
We see this in the school
that sends home a 10-year-old girl
that sends home a 10-year-old girl
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我們看見學校把 10 歲的
女學生打發回家，
女學生打發回家，
01:48
because her clothes were
a distraction to boys trying to learn,
a distraction to boys trying to learn,
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因為她的衣著讓男生分心，
不能專心讀書，
不能專心讀書，
01:51
or the government that refuses
to punish men for raping women
to punish men for raping women
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還有那些政府拒絕懲罰
強姦女性的男人，
強姦女性的男人，
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over and over,
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一次又一次，
01:58
or the woman who is killed
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還有女性被殺
02:00
because she asked a man to stop
grinding on her on the dance floor.
grinding on her on the dance floor.
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就是因為在舞池，
她要求某位男人不要毛手毛腳。
她要求某位男人不要毛手毛腳。
02:07
Media plays a large role in perpetuating
the objectification of women.
the objectification of women.
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對女性的物化，
媒體發揮著重要的作用。
媒體發揮著重要的作用。
02:13
Let's consider
the classic romantic comedy.
the classic romantic comedy.
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讓我們設想
在一個經典浪漫喜劇中，
在一個經典浪漫喜劇中，
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We're typically introduced
to two kinds of women in these movies,
to two kinds of women in these movies,
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在這些電影裡，總有兩種女性，
02:20
two kinds of desirable women, anyway.
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兩種讓人想要追求的女生。
02:22
The first is the sexy bombshell.
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第一種是非常性感的女生。
02:25
This is the unbelievably gorgeous woman
with the perfect body.
with the perfect body.
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非常美麗的女人，完美的身體曲線。
02:29
Our leading man
has no trouble identifying her
has no trouble identifying her
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我們的男主角能夠
毫不費力的注意到她，
毫不費力的注意到她，
02:31
and even less trouble having sex with her.
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並甚至很輕易就能和她發生關係。
02:34
The second is our leading lady,
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第二個是我們的女主角，
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the beautiful but demure woman
our leading man falls in love with
our leading man falls in love with
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美麗端莊的女生，
最後被男主角愛上，
最後被男主角愛上，
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despite not noticing her at first
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雖然一開始可能並沒有注意到她，
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or not liking her if he did.
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或是就算注意到她，
也沒有立刻喜歡她。
也沒有立刻喜歡她。
02:45
The first is the slut.
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第一個女生是蕩婦。
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She is to be consumed and forgotten.
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她在被利用後，就被遺忘了。
02:49
She is much too available.
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她太隨手可得。
02:51
The second is desirable but modest,
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第二個女生吸引人但是低調，
02:55
and therefore worthy
of our leading man's future babies.
of our leading man's future babies.
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因此值得成為男主角
未來子女的母親。
未來子女的母親。
02:58
Marriage material.
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結婚的材料。
03:00
We're actually told
that women have two roles,
that women have two roles,
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我們實際上被告知，
女性有兩個角色，
女性有兩個角色，
03:03
but these two roles have a difficult time
existing within the same woman.
existing within the same woman.
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但是這兩種角色
很難並存於同一個女人。
很難並存於同一個女人。
03:08
On the rare occasion
that I share with a new acquaintance
that I share with a new acquaintance
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在罕見的情況下，
我會和剛認識的人
我會和剛認識的人
03:12
that I study sex,
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分享我是做性研究的。
03:13
if they don't end
the conversation right then,
the conversation right then,
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如果這時他們不馬上中止谈话，
03:16
they're usually pretty intrigued.
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他們通常都會很好奇。
03:19
"Oh. Tell me more."
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「哦，說來聽聽。」
03:21
So I do.
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於是我就說了。
03:24
"I'm really interested
in studying the sexual behaviors
in studying the sexual behaviors
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「我對懷孕中和產後夫妻的
性行為的研究，
性行為的研究，
03:26
of pregnant and postpartum couples."
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非常感興趣。」
03:28
At this point I get
a different kind of response.
a different kind of response.
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這時我會得到不同的回應。
03:32
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
03:34
"Oh. Huh.
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「哦，哼。
03:36
Do pregnant people even have sex?
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孕婦可以有性行為嗎？
03:40
Have you thought
about studying sexual desire
about studying sexual desire
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你有沒有想過研究性慾，
03:44
or orgasms?
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或性高潮？
03:45
That would be interesting, and sexy."
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那應該會更有意思，並且性感。 」
03:50
Tell me. What are the first words
that come to mind
that come to mind
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請告訴我，當你們想到孕婦的時候，
03:52
when you picture a pregnant woman?
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進入你們腦海的第一個字是什麼？
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I asked this question
in a survey of over 500 adults,
in a survey of over 500 adults,
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這個問題，我在一個調查中
訪問了超過 500 個成年人，
訪問了超過 500 個成年人，
03:58
and most responded with "belly" or "round"
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最多的回答是「肚子」或「圓形」，
04:02
and "cute."
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還有 「可愛」。
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This didn't surprise me too much.
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這並沒有讓我很吃驚。
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What else do we label as cute?
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還有什麼我們通常用可愛來形容？
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Babies. Puppies. Kittens.
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嬰兒、小狗、小貓。
04:12
The elderly. Right?
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還有年長者。是嗎？
04:14
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:17
When we label an adult as cute, though,
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當我們把成年人用可愛來形容時，
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we take away a lot of their intelligence,
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我們剝奪了他們的智慧，
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their complexity.
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以及他們複雜性。
04:24
We reduce them to childlike qualities.
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我們把他們降到了小孩子的水準。
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I also asked heterosexual men
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我也訪問過異性戀的男生，
04:29
to imagine a woman that they're
partnered with is pregnant,
partnered with is pregnant,
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讓他們假想他們的另一半正在懷孕，
04:32
and then asked women
to imagine that they are pregnant,
to imagine that they are pregnant,
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然後問女生假想自己懷孕，
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and then tell me
the first words that come to mind
the first words that come to mind
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然後告訴我
當他們想像在做性行為時，
當他們想像在做性行為時，
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when they imagine having sex.
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首先想到的第一個字詞。
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Most of the responses were negative.
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大多數的反應都是負面的。
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"Gross."
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「噁心」
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"Awkward."
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「尷尬」
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"Not sexy." "Odd."
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「不性感」「奇怪」
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"Uncomfortable."
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「不舒服」
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"How?"
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「怎麽做？」
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:55
"Not worth the trouble."
"Not worth the risk."
"Not worth the risk."
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「這麼麻煩不值得」
「不值得冒險」
「不值得冒險」
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That last one really stuck with me.
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最後的一個詞讓我想了很久。
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We might think that because we divorce
pregnant women and moms from sexuality,
pregnant women and moms from sexuality,
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我們可能認為因為
我們把孕婦、母親和性分開，
我們把孕婦、母親和性分開，
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we are removing the constraints
of sexual objectification.
of sexual objectification.
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我們就去除了性物化的約束。
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They experience less sexism. Right?
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她們經歷一些性別歧視。是嗎？
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Not exactly.
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並不盡然。
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What happens instead
is a different kind of objectification.
is a different kind of objectification.
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其實結果是另外一種形式的物化，
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In my efforts to explain this to others,
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在我努力向別人解釋這個的時候，
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one conversation
led to the Venus of Willendorf,
led to the Venus of Willendorf,
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其中的一次談話就轉到
維倫多爾夫的維納斯，
維倫多爾夫的維納斯，
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a Paleolithic figurine scholars assumed
was a goddess of love and beauty,
was a goddess of love and beauty,
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這個舊石器時代的小雕像，
學者們認為是愛和美麗的女神。
學者們認為是愛和美麗的女神。
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hence the name Venus.
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因此命名她為維納斯。
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This theory was later revised, though,
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這個理論之後又被更正過，
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when scholars noted
the sculptor's obvious focus
the sculptor's obvious focus
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當學者們注意到雕刻家的重心
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on the figurine's reproductive features:
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明顯的放在雕像的生殖特徵上：
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large breasts,
considered ideal for nursing;
considered ideal for nursing;
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豐滿的胸部
被認為是理想的哺育工具，
被認為是理想的哺育工具，
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a round, possibly pregnant belly;
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豐滿，可能已懷孕的腹部；
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the remnants of red dye,
alluding to menstruation or birth.
alluding to menstruation or birth.
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紅赭染料的殘留，暗示月經或生育。
05:52
They also assumed that she was
meant to be held or placed lying down
meant to be held or placed lying down
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學者們也假設她是應該被抬著，
或是平放著的，
或是平放著的，
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because her tiny feet
don't allow her to be freestanding.
don't allow her to be freestanding.
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因為她的小腳是不允許她能站著的。
06:00
She also had no face.
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她也沒有臉。
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For this reason, it was assumed
that she was a representation of fertility
that she was a representation of fertility
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因為如此，她被認為是繁衍的象徵。
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and not a portrait of a person.
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並不是一個人的塑像。
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She was an object.
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她是一個物品。
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In the history of her interpretation,
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貫穿在對她的解讀的歷史裡，
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she went from object
of ideal beauty and love
of ideal beauty and love
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她從一個理想的美和愛的物件，
06:16
to object of reproduction.
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變成繁衍的物品。
06:19
I think this transition speaks more
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我認為這種轉變，
與其說是雕像的實際目的，
與其說是雕像的實際目的，
06:21
about the scholars
who have interpreted her purpose
who have interpreted her purpose
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不如說是，
它告訴了我們
那些研究她的學者的想法。
那些研究她的學者的想法。
06:25
than the actual purpose
of the figurine herself.
of the figurine herself.
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06:30
When a woman becomes pregnant,
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當一個女人懷孕了，
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she leaves the realm
of men's sexual desire
of men's sexual desire
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她不再是男性性需求的對象，
06:36
and slides into her reproductive
and child-rearing role.
and child-rearing role.
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隨後進入了生育和養育孩子的角色。
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In doing so, she also becomes
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這樣之後，她又成為了
06:43
the property of the community,
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社區的共同財產。
06:45
considered very important
but only because she's pregnant. Right?
but only because she's pregnant. Right?
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被認為非常重要，
但只是因為她懷孕的緣故。是不是？
但只是因為她懷孕的緣故。是不是？
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I've taken to calling this
the Willendorf effect,
the Willendorf effect,
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我把這個稱為「維倫多夫效應」。
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and once again we see it reinforced
in many aspects of her life.
in many aspects of her life.
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再一次我們看見它在
女性生活的許多方面被强化。
女性生活的許多方面被强化。
06:57
Has anyone here
ever been visibly pregnant?
ever been visibly pregnant?
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這裡有人曾經很明顯的懷孕嗎？
06:59
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
07:00
Yeah. Lots of you, right?
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是啊，很多，對嗎？
07:02
So how many of you ever had a stranger
touch your belly during pregnancy,
touch your belly during pregnancy,
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有多少人在你懷孕時
曾被陌生人碰過你的腹部？
曾被陌生人碰過你的腹部？
07:06
maybe without even asking
your permission first?
your permission first?
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有時可能根本沒有
事先徵求你的同意？
事先徵求你的同意？
07:09
Or told what you can and cannot eat
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或者有些人既不是醫生，
也不是你的私人看護，
也不是你的私人看護，
07:12
by somebody who is not your doctor,
your medical care provider?
your medical care provider?
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卻來告訴你可以或不可以吃什麼？
07:16
Or asked private questions
about your birth plan?
about your birth plan?
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或者問你關於你準備
怎麽生小孩的一些私密問題？
怎麽生小孩的一些私密問題？
07:20
And then told why
those choices are all wrong?
those choices are all wrong?
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然後再告訴你為什麼
那些選擇都是錯誤的。
那些選擇都是錯誤的。
07:23
Yeah, me too.
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是啊，我也經歷過。
07:24
Or had a server refuse
to bring you a glass of wine?
to bring you a glass of wine?
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或者侍應生拒絕給你拿一杯酒？
07:29
This one might give you pause,
I know, but stay with me.
I know, but stay with me.
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這個可能會讓你停頓一下，
我知道，但是先別急。
我知道，但是先別急。
07:31
This is a huge secret.
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這是一個大秘密。
07:33
It is actually safe to drink
in moderation during pregnancy.
in moderation during pregnancy.
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其實在懷孕期間
適度的飲酒是安全的。
適度的飲酒是安全的。
07:38
Many of us don't know this
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許多人不知道這個，
07:40
because doctors don't trust
pregnant women with this secret --
pregnant women with this secret --
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是因為醫生信不過
把這個秘密告訴孕婦。
把這個秘密告訴孕婦。
07:43
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
07:49
especially if she's less educated
or a woman of color.
or a woman of color.
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特別是那些受教育少的
或是非白種人。
或是非白種人。
07:53
What this tells us is,
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這就告訴我們，
07:55
this Willendorf effect,
it's also classist and racist.
it's also classist and racist.
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這個維倫多夫效應也是有
階級歧視和種族歧視的。
階級歧視和種族歧視的。
07:59
It's present when
the government reminds women
the government reminds women
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它現形於當政府用
每一個新的反墮胎法案
每一個新的反墮胎法案
08:05
with every new anti-choice bill
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來提醒女性
08:08
that the contents of her uterus
are not her own,
are not her own,
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她們子宮裡的東西不是她自己的，
08:11
or when an ob-gyn says,
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或者當婦產科醫生說：
08:13
"While it's safe
to have sex during pregnancy,
to have sex during pregnancy,
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「在懷孕期間的性行為是安全的，
08:15
sometimes you never know.
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但有時候很難說。
08:16
Better safe than sorry, right?"
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還是以防萬一不要冒險，對不對？」
08:19
She's denied basic privacy
and bodily autonomy
and bodily autonomy
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在「做一個好媽媽的」 的僞裝下，
08:23
under the guise of "be a good mother."
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她被否認了基本的隱私和身體自主，
08:26
We don't trust her
to make her own decisions.
to make her own decisions.
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我們信不過她能給自己做決定。
08:29
She's cute, remember?
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她很可愛，記得嗎？
08:33
When we tell women
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讓我們告訴女性
08:36
that sexual pleasure -- excuse me.
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性愉悅──抱歉。
08:39
When we tell women that sex
isn't worth the risk during pregnancy,
isn't worth the risk during pregnancy,
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當我們告訴女性
懷孕期間不值得冒險有性行為，
懷孕期間不值得冒險有性行為，
08:43
what we're telling her is that
her sexual pleasure doesn't matter.
her sexual pleasure doesn't matter.
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其實我們告訴她的是
她的性愉悅並不重要。
她的性愉悅並不重要。
08:48
So what we are telling her
is that she in fact doesn't matter,
is that she in fact doesn't matter,
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因此我們想說的是她其實並不重要，
08:51
even though the needs of her fetus
are not at odds with her own needs.
are not at odds with her own needs.
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即使她胎兒的需求
和她的需求並不相悖。
和她的需求並不相悖。
08:57
So medical providers,
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所以醫護人員們，
08:59
such as the American College
of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
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像美國婦產科醫學學會，
09:02
have the opportunity to educate
about the safety of sex during pregnancy.
about the safety of sex during pregnancy.
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有機會進行關於
孕期性行爲安全的教育。
孕期性行爲安全的教育。
09:07
So what do the experts say?
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所以專家是怎樣說的？
09:09
ACOG actually has
no public official statement
no public official statement
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美國婦產科醫學學會實際上沒有
09:12
about the safety of sex during pregnancy.
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關於懷孕期間
性行爲安全的公開聲明。
性行爲安全的公開聲明。
09:16
Guidance from the Mayo Clinic
is generally positive
is generally positive
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馬約診所的引導方針
一般上是正面的，
一般上是正面的，
09:19
but presented with a caveat:
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但也提出了警示：
09:21
"Although most women can safely
have sex throughout pregnancy,
have sex throughout pregnancy,
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「雖然大多數的女性
在懷孕期間的性行為是安全的，
在懷孕期間的性行為是安全的，
09:24
sometimes it's best to be cautious."
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有時最好還是要小心。 」
09:26
Some women don't want
to have sex during pregnancy,
to have sex during pregnancy,
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有些孕婦在懷孕期間
根本不想有性行為，
根本不想有性行為，
09:30
and that's OK.
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這沒關係。
09:31
Some women do want
to have sex during pregnancy,
to have sex during pregnancy,
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有些孕婦想要有性行為
09:33
and that's OK, too.
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一樣也沒有關係。
09:35
What needs to stop
is society telling women
is society telling women
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我們需要做的是社會不要再教導女性
09:38
what they can and cannot do
with their bodies.
with their bodies.
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對自己的身體什麼可以做，
什麼不可以做。
什麼不可以做。
09:41
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
09:48
Pregnant women are not faceless,
identity-less vessels of reproduction
identity-less vessels of reproduction
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懷孕的女性不是沒有臉、
沒有人格的繁衍工具。
沒有人格的繁衍工具。
09:52
who can't stand on their own two feet.
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也不是不能用自己的雙腳站起來。
09:56
But the truth is, the real secret is,
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真相是，真正的秘密是，
09:58
we tell all women that
their sexual pleasure doesn't matter.
their sexual pleasure doesn't matter.
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我們告訴所有的女性
他們的性愉悅是無關緊要的。
他們的性愉悅是無關緊要的。
10:02
We refuse to even acknowledge
that women who have sex with women
that women who have sex with women
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我們拒絕甚至承認
女性和女性有性行為，
女性和女性有性行為，
10:06
or women who don't
want children even exist.
want children even exist.
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或者有些女性不想要小孩，
這些的存在。
這些的存在。
10:08
"Oh, it's just a phase ...
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「哦，這只是一個階段……
10:10
she just needs the right man
to come along."
to come along."
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她只是還沒找到一個合適的人。 」
10:14
Every time a woman has sex
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每一次當女性有性行為，
10:16
simply because it feels good,
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只是因為自己感覺好，
10:18
it is revolutionary.
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那就是一次革命。
10:20
She is revolutionary.
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她就是革命者。
10:22
She is pushing back
against society's insistence
against society's insistence
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她敢於和社會的堅持抗爭，
10:25
that she exist simply for men's pleasure
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對抗那些認為她的存在只是取悅男性
10:27
or for reproduction.
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或繁衍的工具。
10:30
A woman who prioritizes
her sexual needs is scary,
her sexual needs is scary,
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一個女人視自己的性需求
為優先是很可怕的，
為優先是很可怕的，
10:34
because a woman who prioritizes
her sexual needs prioritizes herself.
her sexual needs prioritizes herself.
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因為當她把自己的性需求放首位，
就是把自己放首位。
就是把自己放首位。
10:39
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
10:43
That is a woman demanding
that she be treated as an equal.
that she be treated as an equal.
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這是一個要求被平等對待的女性。
10:47
That is a woman who insists
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這是一個堅持
10:49
that you make room for her
at the table of power,
at the table of power,
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在權力的平臺上，
你要給她位置的女性。
你要給她位置的女性。
10:52
and that is the most terrifying of all
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最可怕的是，
10:54
because we can't make room for her
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我們不可能給她位置，
10:57
without some of us giving up
the extra space we hold.
the extra space we hold.
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如果現有的一些人
不願意讓出多的位置。
不願意讓出多的位置。
11:02
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
11:08
I have one last secret for you.
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我有最後一個秘密分享給你們。
11:10
I am the mother of two boys
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我是兩個男孩的母親，
11:12
and we could use your help.
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我們需要得到你們的幫助。
11:15
Even though my boys hear me say regularly
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雖然我的兒子經常聽我說，
11:20
that it's important for men
to recognize women as equals
to recognize women as equals
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把女性視爲平等對男性很重要
11:23
and they see their father modeling this,
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他們看到他們的父親也在這麽做，
11:26
we need what happens in the world
to reinforce what happens in our home.
to reinforce what happens in our home.
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我們需要在外面發生的
影響到我們的家。
影響到我們的家。
11:30
This is not a men's problem
or a women's problem.
or a women's problem.
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這不是男人或者女人的問題。
11:33
This is everyone's problem,
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這是每一個人的問題，
11:35
and we all play a role
in dismantling systems of inequality.
in dismantling systems of inequality.
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我們在瓦解這個不平等的體系裡
都起著一些的作用。
都起著一些的作用。
11:40
For starters, we have got
to stop telling women
to stop telling women
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首先，我們不要再教導女性
怎樣對待自己的身體
怎樣對待自己的身體
11:43
what they can and cannot do
with their bodies.
with their bodies.
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什麼可以做，什麼不可以做。
11:45
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
11:50
This includes not treating pregnant women
like community property.
like community property.
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這包括不要再把孕婦
當成是社群的財產。
當成是社群的財產。
11:54
If you don't know her,
don't even ask to touch her belly.
don't even ask to touch her belly.
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如果你不認識她，
就不要去碰她的肚子。
就不要去碰她的肚子。
11:57
You wouldn't anybody else.
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你不會對其他人這樣。
11:59
Don't tell her
what she can and cannot eat.
what she can and cannot eat.
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不要教導她，什麼她能吃或不能吃。
12:01
Don't ask her private details
about her medical decisions.
about her medical decisions.
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不要問她一些醫療的私密的細節，
12:04
This also includes understanding
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這也包括
12:06
that even if you are
personally against abortion,
personally against abortion,
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就算你個人反對墮胎，
12:09
you can still fight
for a woman's right to choose.
for a woman's right to choose.
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你還是可以為女性的選擇權去抗爭。
12:12
When it comes to women's equality,
the two need not oppose one another.
the two need not oppose one another.
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當談到女性平等時，
兩性之間是不需要對立的。
兩性之間是不需要對立的。
12:16
If you're somebody who has sex with women,
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如果你要和女人發生性行爲，
12:19
prioritize her pleasure.
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把她的愉悅放首位。
12:20
If you don't know how, ask.
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如果你不知道怎麽做，儘管問。
12:24
If you have children --
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如果你有孩子──
12:25
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
12:27
have conversations about sex
as early as possible,
as early as possible,
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儘早和他們開始關於性的交談，
12:31
because kids don't look up s-e-x
in the dictionary anymore.
in the dictionary anymore.
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因爲孩子不會再去用字典
來查「性」這個字了。
來查「性」這個字了。
12:35
They look it up on the internet.
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他們會上網去查。
12:38
And when you're having
those conversations about sex,
those conversations about sex,
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當你們有關於性的談話時，
12:41
don't center them on reproduction only.
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不要只局限在繁衍的意義上。
12:43
People have sex for many reasons,
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人因爲多種原因發生性行爲，
12:45
some because they want a baby,
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有些因爲他們想要小孩，
12:47
but most of us have sex
because it feels good.
because it feels good.
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但大多數人是因爲感覺很好。
12:50
Admit it.
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承認吧。
12:52
And regardless of whether
you have children or not,
you have children or not,
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不管你有沒有小孩，
12:55
support comprehensive sex education
that doesn't shame our teenagers.
that doesn't shame our teenagers.
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支持全面的性教育，
讓我們的青少年不會覺得羞愧。
讓我們的青少年不會覺得羞愧。
12:59
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
13:08
Nothing positive comes from shaming teens
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讓青少年為他們的
性欲望和性行爲感到羞愧，
性欲望和性行爲感到羞愧，
13:10
for their sexual desires, behaviors,
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是沒有任何正面影響的，
13:14
other than positive STD
and pregnancy tests.
and pregnancy tests.
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只會產生性病測試的陽性，
和懷孕測試的陽性結果。
和懷孕測試的陽性結果。
13:18
Every single day,
we are all given the opportunity
we are all given the opportunity
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每一天，我們都有機會
13:21
to disrupt patterns of inequality.
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打破這個不平等的狀況。
13:24
I think we can all agree
that it's worth the trouble to do so.
that it's worth the trouble to do so.
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我想我們大家都贊同
這是不管怎麼麻煩都值得的。
這是不管怎麼麻煩都值得的。
13:29
Thank you.
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謝謝。
13:30
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sofia Jawed-Wessel - Sex researcherSofia Jawed-Wessel's teachings utilize a sex-positive and pleasure-inclusive approach to providing medically accurate, comprehensive sexuality education.
Why you should listen
Dr. Sofia Jawed-Wessel teaches and generates new knowledge in the area of public health through scientific studies. Her research has focused on understanding and improving the sexual health of women and couples as they transition into parenthood by documenting sexual behaviors, sexual function, relationship adjustment and overall sexual changes during pregnancy and after childbirth. Jawed-Wessel's teachings utilize a sex-positive and pleasure-inclusive approach to providing medically accurate, comprehensive sexuality education to undergraduate students as well as in the local Omaha, Nebraska community. She teaches graduate level courses such as Research Methods, Health Behavior Theory, and Leadership and Advocacy. Jawed-Wessel also fights for women's rights and reproductive justice. She has provided expert testimony for the Nebraska Unicameral, the Nebraska School Board of Education and the Omaha Public School Board of Education. She has successfully argued in favor of comprehensive sex education in Omaha Public Schools and fought against restrictive anti-choice legislation in Nebraska.
Jawed-Wessel is an Assistant Professor in the School of Health, Physical Education and Recreation at the University of Nebraska at Omaha (UNO) and the Associate Director of the Midlands Sexual Health Research Collaborative. She also holds a joint appointment with the Women and Gender Studies program at UNO and a courtesy appointment in the College of Public Health at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Jawed-Wessel holds both a Master of Science in Public Health (MPH) degree and a Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degree in Health Behavior from the School of Public Health at Indiana University Bloomington.
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