Michael Kimmel: Why gender equality is good for everyone — men included
مایکل کیمل: چرا برابری جنسیتی برای همه خوب است
The author of "Angry White Men," Michael Kimmel is a pre-eminent scholar of men and masculinity. Full bio
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to support gender equality.
حمایت از برابری جنسیتی آموزش بدم.
with gender equality?
جنسیت در مورد زنهاست.
as a middle class white man.
مرد سفیدپوست طبقه متوسط صحبت کنم
a middle class white man.
طبقه متوسط نبودم.
when I was in graduate school,
در دانشگاه بودم،
got together one day,
دور هم جمع شده بودیم،
there's an explosion
اینهمه بحث و هیاهو
in feminist theory,
وجود داره، ولی هنوز هیچ
typically do in a situation like that.
در شرایط اینچنینی میکنن.
تشکیل بدیم.
11 women and me got together.
من و ۱۱ زن دور هم جمع میشدیم.
and have a conversation about it.
و در موردش گفتگو میکردیم.
that changed my life forever.
برای همیشه تغییر داد.
and one was black.
دیگری سیاهپوست بود.
very anachronistic now --
بیاد -
face the same oppression as women.
بعنوان یک زن روبرو هستن.
situated in patriarchy,
پدرسالارانه بودن،
of intuitive solidarity or sisterhood."
همبستگی احساسی و خواهرانه دارن."
"I'm not so sure.
"مطمئن نیستم.
says to the white woman,
and you look in the mirror,
"You see, that's the problem for me.
"مشکل من همینه.
and I look in the mirror," she said,
بیدار میشم و به آینه نگاه میکنم،
race is invisible. You don't see it."
نژاد مخفیه. اونو نمیبینی."
something really startling.
او گفت:
to those who have it."
اونو داره مخفیه."
to the white people sitting in this room,
سفیدپوستانی که اینجا نشستن،
every split second of our lives.
در مورد نژادشون فکر کنن.
to those who have it.
the only man in this group,
مرد این گروه بودم،
گفتم "واای، نه!"
"Well what was that reaction?"
"خب، این چه واکنشی بود؟"
in the morning and I look in the mirror,
و تو آینه نگاه میکنم،
I have no race, no class, no gender.
بدون نژاد، طبقه و جنسیت.
I became a middle class white man,
یه مرد سفیدپوست طبقه متوسط شدم،
were not about other people,
افراد دیگه نبود،
kept it invisible to me for so long.
برایم مخفی بود.
this story ends 30 years ago
این داستان 30سال پیش
at my university where I teach.
در آن تدریس میکنم یادم اومد.
both teach the sociology of gender course
جامعهشناسی جنسیتی تدریس میکردیم
for me when I teach.
ارائههایی میداد.
for her when she teaches.
to give a guest lecture,
تا ارائهای داشته باشم،
looks up and says,
به بالا نگاه کرد و گفت:
my colleague opened her mouth,
همکارم حرفی در کلاس میزد،
و به دانشجویانم میگفتید که:
based on gender in the United States,"
در امریکا وجود دارد،"
you'd say that.
"البته که شما این حرفو میزنید.
"Wow, is that interesting.
میگفتن:"اوه، جالبه!.
How do you spell 'structural'?"
"ساختار" رو چطوری مینویسن؟!"
men so often wear ties.
عموما کراوات میزنن.
disembodied Western rationality,
غیرمتجسمِ غربی باشید،
of disembodied Western rationality
عقلانیتِ غیرمتجسم غربی باشه
and the other end points to the genitals?
به ناحیهی تناسلی ختم میشه؟
to support gender equality.
در جهت حمایت از برابری جنسیتی هست.
about gender equality,
به گوشم خورد،
در موردش کردن،
اکثر مردا فکر میکنن،
that's fair, that's just,
این منصفانه و عادلانست،
the lightning bolt goes off,
دهنیشون خاموش میشه،
yes, gender equality,"
to mansplain to you your oppression.
ستمهایی که بهتون روا داشته شده.
something akin to the cavalry,
برای مردها زجرآوره،
to our attention, ladies,
مارو متوجه این مسئله کردین،
to call 'premature self-congratulation.'
خودستایی زودرس میذارم.
that actively resists gender equality,
در مقابل برابری جنسیتی مقاومت میکنن،
as something that is detrimental to men.
opposite four white men.
مقابل 4 مرد سفید پوست بودم.
I wrote, 'Angry White Men.'
از همینجا کلید خورد.
white men in America,
in the workplace.
در محل کارشون هستن.
about how they were qualified for jobs,
در مورد اینکه شایسته بدست آوردن کار
they were really angry.
و از این بابت عصبانی بودن.
is I want you to hear the title
qualified for promotions,
شایستگیشون برای ترفیع،
just one question for you guys,
one word in the title.
یه کلمه از این عنوانه.
[مالکیت] بدونم،
it was your job?
که این شغل شما بوده؟
'A Black Woman Got the Job?'
"یه زن سیاهپوست شغل رو گرفت؟"
men's sense of entitlement,
why so many men resist gender equality.
به این اندازه در مقابل برابری جنسی مقاومند
is a level playing field,
است،
even a little bit,
water's rushing uphill.
نیومده"
greatest affirmative action program
some of the obstacles to engaging men,
مردان وجود داره رو میگم،
it's right and it's just.
حق اونهاست.
in our interest as men.
about what they want in their lives,
چه چیزی در زندگیش میخواد رو بشنوید،
for us to get the lives we want to live.
چیزهایی که در زندگی خواهان اون هستیم می باشد.
that are the most gender equal
on the happiness scale.
در آنها در بالاترین سطح هست.
they're all in Europe.
اروپا هستند.
that are more gender equal
بالاتری دارند
has shown conclusively
شده به طور قطعی نشان میدهد که
They have lower levels of attrition.
و سطح پایین تری از مناقشات رو دارند.
higher job satisfaction,
بیشتری دارند،
in companies is,
اینه که،
that's really going to be expensive, huh?"
آره؟"
what you have to start calculating
حساب کنید که
is already costing you.
داشته است.
خوب هستش
we want to live,
have changed enormously,
کرده اند
that are animated
کنند
with their children.
their spouses, their wives,
زن هاشون میخواهند که
to their careers as they are.
کاری باشند.
an illustration of this change --
تغییرات رو نشون بدهم---
there was a riddle that was posed to us.
یک معمایی بود که ما گفته شده بود،
to remember this riddle.
معما به لرزه بیافتید
are driving on the freeway,
هستند،
to the hospital emergency room,
into the hospital emergency room,
میبرند،
sees the boy and says,
و اعلام میکند
پسر منه"
with my 16-year old son.
۱۶ ساله خودم انجام بدم.
hanging out at the house
میکردند.
this riddle to them,
and said, "It's his mom." Right?
"اون مادرش بوده" درسته؟
"Well, he could have two dads."
داشته باشه"
of how things have changed.
چه مقدار اوضاع تغییر کرده
to be able to balance work and family.
خانواده و کار رو با هم در تعادل قرار دهند
dual-carer couples.
work and family with their partners.
رو با والدینشون در تعادل قرار بدهند
our relationships,
are quite persuasive here.
متقاعد کننده هست.
the data, to prove to men
اطلاعات برای مردان داریم که
is not a zero-sum game, but a win-win.
برد-برد است.
the process of engaging
مشارکت در این فرایند
that we use to describe what we do.
کاری که انجام میدهیم استفاده میکنیم.
something a little bit more radical,
کودکان سهیم میشوند،
میکنند
of absenteeism,
پیدا میکنند،
to be diagnosed with ADHD.
کم توجهی (ADHD) میشوند
to see a child psychiatrist.
دید.
to be put on medication.
احتیاج پیدا میکنند.
کوکان شرکت میکنند،
کوکان رو تقسیم میکنند،
to see a therapist,
احتیاج پیدا میکنند،
with depression,
more likely to go to the gym,
به احتمال بیشتری به باشگاه میروند
of marital satisfaction.
داره.
شرکت میکنند
شرکت میکنند،
take recreational drugs less often.
داروهای آرامبخش کمتری مصرف میکنند.
for routine screenings.
چکاپ های متداول.
میکنند
with depression,
prescription medication.
مشارکت میکنند،
و فرزندداری مشارکت میکنند،
Men's Health magazine put on its cover?
روی جلد مجله سلامت مردان چاپ کرد؟
over a really long period of time,
گردآوری شده است،
I'll do the dishes tonight."
کثیف رو بشورم"
over a really long period of time.
گردآوری شده است،
میدهند،
put it on their cover,
جلد خودش چاپش کرد،
you'll love this, "Choreplay."
باشین
is something really important,
is not a zero-sum game.
دارای قدرت بدونیم
that women have identified
که زنها به اون شناخته شده اند
they say they want to live
اونا میگن که میخوان زندگی کنند
that we say we want to live.
ما میخواهیم زندگی کنیم
of the great suffrage demonstrations
مهمانی های انتخاباتی
wrote an article in a magazine,
در مجله ای نوشت
of that article:
for the first time for men to be free."
مردان فراهم میکند تا بتوانند آزاد باشند"
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Michael Kimmel - SociologistThe author of "Angry White Men," Michael Kimmel is a pre-eminent scholar of men and masculinity.
Why you should listen
Sociologist Michael Kimmel is among the leading researchers and writers on men and masculinity in the world. He's the executive director of the Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities at Stony Brook University, where he is also Distinguished University Professor of Sociology and Gender Studies.
He is the author of many books, including Manhood in America, Angry White Men, and the best seller Guyland: The Perilous World Where Boys Become Men. An activist for gender equality for more than 30 years, he was recently called "the world's preeminent male feminist" by the Guardian.
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