ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zak Ebrahim - Peace activist
Groomed for terror, Zak Ebrahim chose a different life. The author of The Terrorist's Son, he hopes his story will inspire others to reject a path of violence.

Why you should listen

When Zak Ebrahim was seven, his family went on the run. His father, El Sayyid Nosair, had hoped Zak would follow in his footsteps -- and become a jihadist. Instead, Zak was at the beginning of a long journey to comprehend his past.

Zak Ebrahim kept his family history a secret as they moved through a long succession of towns. In 2010, he realized his experience as a terrorist’s son not only gave him a unique perspective, but also a unique chance to show that if he could escape a violent heritage, anyone could. As he told Truthdig.com, “We must embrace tolerance and nonviolence. Who knows this better than the son of a terrorist?”

In 2014 Ebrahim published the TED Book The Terrorist's Son, a memoir written with Jeff Giles about the path he took to turn away from hate. In early 2015 the book won an American Library Association Alex award.

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Zak Ebrahim: I am the son of a terrorist. Here's how I chose peace.

扎克‧伊博黑姆: 我的父亲是恐怖分子,但我选择了和平

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倘若你在仇恨与极端主义教条中长大,你会选择不同的道路吗?扎克‧伊博黑姆七岁的时候,父亲协助谋划了1993 年世界贸易中心爆炸案。他的故事强大、令人震惊,并且最终,鼓舞人心。
- Peace activist
Groomed for terror, Zak Ebrahim chose a different life. The author of The Terrorist's Son, he hopes his story will inspire others to reject a path of violence. Full bio

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On November十一月 5th, 1990,
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1990 年 11 月 5 日,
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a man named命名 El-Sayyid埃尔 - 赛义德 NosairNosair walked
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一位名叫埃尔·塞伊德·诺塞尔的男子
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into a hotel旅馆 in Manhattan曼哈顿
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走入曼哈顿的一间宾馆
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and assassinated暗杀 Rabbi拉比 Meir梅厄 KahaneKahane,
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刺杀了拉比梅厄‧卡赫纳,
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the leader领导 of the Jewish犹太 Defense防御 League联盟.
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犹太防卫联盟的首领。
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NosairNosair was initially原来 found发现 not guilty有罪 of the murder谋杀,
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诺塞尔一开始并未被指认参与谋杀,
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but while serving服务 time on lesser较小 charges收费,
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但当他因小事入狱服刑期间,
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he and other men男人 began开始 planning规划 attacks攻击
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他和一些人开始计划袭击
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on a dozen New York纽约 City landmarks地标,
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纽约市的一些地标,
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including包含 tunnels隧道, synagogues犹太教堂
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包括隧道,犹太教会堂
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and the United联合的 Nations国家 headquarters司令部.
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和联合国总部。
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Thankfully感激地, those plans计划 were foiled挫败
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谢天谢地,这些计划被
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by an FBI联邦调查局 informant线人.
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美国联邦调查局的线人挫败了。
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Sadly可悲的是, the 1993 bombing轰炸
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不幸的是,1993 年
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of the World世界 Trade贸易 Center中央 was not.
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世贸中心的那场爆炸袭击却发生了。
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NosairNosair would eventually终于 be convicted被定罪
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诺塞尔最终被指控
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for his involvement参与 in the plot情节.
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参与这场犯罪谋划。
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El-Sayyid埃尔 - 赛义德 NosairNosair is my father父亲.
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埃尔·塞伊德·诺塞尔是我的父亲。
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I was born天生 in Pittsburgh匹兹堡, Pennsylvania宾夕法尼亚
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我 1983 年出生在
宾夕法尼亚州的匹兹堡,
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in 1983 to him, an Egyptian埃及人 engineer工程师,
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我的父亲是一位
埃及裔工程师,
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and a loving爱心 American美国 mother母亲
and grade年级 school学校 teacher老师,
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我有个爱我的美国母亲,
她是一名小学老师,
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who together一起 tried试着 their best最好
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他们尽最大的努力
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to create创建 a happy快乐 childhood童年 for me.
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为给我创造出欢乐的童年。
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It wasn't until直到 I was seven years年份 old
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直到我 7 岁的时候
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that our family家庭 dynamic动态 started开始 to change更改.
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家庭氛围开始出现了变化。
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My father父亲 exposed裸露 me to a side of Islam伊斯兰教
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我的父亲让我接触伊斯兰的一支
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that few少数 people, including包含 the majority多数 of Muslims穆斯林,
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很少人见过,包括大部分的穆斯林,
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get to see.
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都没见过的一个派别。
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It's been my experience经验 that when people
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我的人生经验告诉我
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take the time to interact相互作用 with one another另一个,
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人们与彼此相处,
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it doesn't take long to realize实现 that for the most part部分,
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很快就意识到,很大程度上
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we all want the same相同 things out of life.
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人们对生活有着相同的追求。
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However然而, in every一切 religion宗教, in every一切 population人口,
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然而,所有宗教,所有群体,
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you'll你会 find a small percentage百分比 of people
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你总能看到一小部分人
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who hold保持 so fervently热情地 to their beliefs信仰
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对他们的信仰太过狂热
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that they feel they must必须 use any means手段 necessary必要
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以至于认为他们应该用各种方法
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to make others其他 live生活 as they do.
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让其他人和他们过同样的生活。
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A few少数 months个月 prior to his arrest逮捕,
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在他被捕前的几个月,
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he satSAT me down and explained解释 that
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他和我坐着聊天解释到
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for the past过去 few少数 weekends周末, he and some friends朋友
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在过去的几个周末,
他和他的一些朋友
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had been going to a shooting射击 range范围 on Long Island
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在长岛(美国纽约州东南部岛屿)
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for target目标 practice实践.
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进行目标射击训练。
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He told me I'd be going with him the next下一个 morning早上.
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他让我第二天一早和他一起去。
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We arrived到达 at Calverton卡尔弗顿 Shooting射击 Range范围,
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我们来到凯佛顿射击场,
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which哪一个 unbeknownst不知情 to our group was being存在 watched看着
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我们并不知道自己已经
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by the FBI联邦调查局.
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被联邦调查局监视了。
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When it was my turn to shoot射击,
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轮到我射击的时候,
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my father父亲 helped帮助 me hold保持 the rifle步枪 to my shoulder
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我的父亲帮我扶住
肩膀上的来福枪,
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and explained解释 how to aim目标 at the target目标
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并教导我如何瞄准
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about 30 yards off.
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30 码处的目标。
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That day, the last bullet子弹 I shot射击
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那天,我射出的最后一颗子弹
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hit击中 the small orange橙子 light that satSAT on top最佳 of the target目标
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打中了目标顶上的橙色亮光,
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and to everyone's大家的 surprise, especially特别 mine,
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所有人都惊呆了,尤其是我,
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the entire整个 target目标 burst爆裂 into flames火焰.
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整个目标版燃烧了。
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My uncle叔叔 turned转身 to the other men男人,
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我的叔叔转向旁边的人,
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and in Arabic阿拉伯 said, "Ibn伊本 abuhabuh."
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用阿拉伯语说到,“Ibn abuh”——
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Like father父亲, like son儿子.
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虎父无犬子。
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They all seemed似乎 to get a really
big laugh out of that comment评论,
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他们当场开怀大笑起来,
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but it wasn't until直到 a few少数 years年份 later后来
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几年后
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that I fully充分 understood了解 what
they thought was so funny滑稽.
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我才了解他们大笑的原因,
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They thought they saw in me the same相同 destruction毁坏
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他们以为我和我的父亲有着
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my father父亲 was capable of.
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同样的摧毁能力。
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Those men男人 would eventually终于 be convicted被定罪
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这群男人最终被指控
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of placing配售 a van面包车 filled填充 with
1,500 pounds英镑 of explosives炸药
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将满载 1500 磅重的
炸弹的厢式货车
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into the sub-level子平 parking停車處 lot of the
World世界 Trade贸易 Center's中心 North Tower,
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停在世界贸易中心北塔的
地下停车场,
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causing造成 an explosion爆炸 that killed杀害 six people
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爆炸造成 6 人死亡,
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and injured受伤 over 1,000 others其他.
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同时致使超过 1000 人受伤。
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These were the men男人 I looked看着 up to.
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这些是我曾经敬仰的人。
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These were the men男人 I called
ammuammu, which哪一个 means手段 uncle叔叔.
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这些是我曾经称呼其为 ammu,
意为叔叔的人。
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By the time I turned转身 19,
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当我 19 岁的时候,
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I had already已经 moved移动 20 times in my life,
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我已经搬超过 20 次家了,
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and that instability不稳定 during my childhood童年
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童年所经历的不稳定
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didn't really provide提供 an opportunity机会
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并未给我
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to make many许多 friends朋友.
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结交朋友的机会。
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Each time I would begin开始 to feel
comfortable自在 around someone有人,
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每当我感到和附近人相熟时,
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it was time to pack up and move移动 to the next下一个 town.
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就是我要收拾行囊
去下一个地方的时候。
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Being存在 the perpetual永动的 new face面对 in class,
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作为永远的班级新生,
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I was frequently经常 the target目标 of bullies恶霸.
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我常是同学们欺负的对象。
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I kept不停 my identity身分 a secret秘密 from my classmates同学
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为了不被同班同学欺负,
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to avoid避免 being存在 targeted针对,
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我将自己的身份保密,
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but as it turns out, being存在 the
quiet安静, chubby丰满的 new kid孩子 in class
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但结果是,作为
安静又胖乎乎的新同学
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was more than enough足够 ammunition弹药.
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很轻易就成为被欺负的对象。
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So for the most part部分, I spent花费 my time at home
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所以更多的时候,
我待在家里
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reading books图书 and watching观看 TV电视
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看书看电视
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or playing播放 video视频 games游戏.
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或者是打电动。
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For those reasons原因, my social社会 skills技能 were lacking不足,
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正因为这样,我的社交能力有所缺失,
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to say the least最小,
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简单地说,
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and growing生长 up in a bigoted拘泥 household家庭,
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成长在固执的家庭,
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I wasn't prepared准备 for the real真实 world世界.
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我没有准备好应对现实世界。
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I'd been raised上调 to judge法官 people
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我被教育成用武断的方式,
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based基于 on arbitrary随意 measurements测量,
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依据人们的脸或宗教,
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like a person's人的 race种族 or religion宗教.
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来评断他人。
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So what opened打开 my eyes眼睛?
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什么让我开了眼界呢?
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One of my first experiences经验
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某次经历
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that challenged挑战 this way of thinking思维
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挑战了我思考的方式
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was during the 2000 presidential总统 elections选举.
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发生于 2000 年美国总统竞选期间。
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Through通过 a college学院 prep预备 program程序,
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在预科期间,
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I was able能够 to take part部分
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我参与了
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in the National国民 Youth青年 Convention惯例 in Philadelphia费城.
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在费城举办的全国青年大会。
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My particular特定 group's集团 focus焦点 was on youth青年 violence暴力,
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我这组的话题是关于青少年暴力,
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and having been the victim受害者
of bullying欺凌 for most of my life,
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作为倍受欺负的受害者,
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this was a subject学科 in which哪一个
I felt particularly尤其 passionate多情.
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这个话题我很感兴趣。
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The members会员 of our group came来了
from many许多 different不同 walks散步 of life.
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组员都有着不同的生活轨迹。
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One day toward the end结束 of the convention惯例,
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大会临近结束的某天,
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I found发现 out that one of the kids孩子 I had befriended结识
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我发现我的某个朋友
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was Jewish犹太.
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是犹太人。
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Now, it had taken采取 several一些 days
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我也是过了几天
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for this detail详情 to come to light,
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才知晓这件事情,
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and I realized实现 that there was no natural自然 animosity敌意
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我认识到,我们之间
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between之间 the two of us.
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并没有与生俱来的仇恨。
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I had never had a Jewish犹太 friend朋友 before,
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我从未有过犹太朋友,
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and frankly坦率地说 I felt a sense of pride自豪
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坦白地说,我为此感到骄傲,
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in having been able能够 to overcome克服 a barrier屏障
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能够跨越
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that for most of my life I had been led to believe
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我人生绝大部分时间
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was insurmountable不可逾越.
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认为是不可能逾越的障碍。
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Another另一个 major重大的 turning车削 point came来了 when
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另一个转折点是,
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I found发现 a summer夏季 job工作 at Busch布希 Gardens花园,
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某年暑假,我在布希花园
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an amusement娱乐 park公园.
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这个主题乐园打工。
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There, I was exposed裸露 to people
from all sorts排序 of faiths信仰 and cultures文化,
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我见识到有着不同信仰,
来自不同文化的人们,
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and that experience经验 proved证实 to be fundamental基本的
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这样的经验
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to the development发展 of my character字符.
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对我的人格发展
是至关重要的。
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Most of my life, I'd been taught
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因为在过去的日子,
我接收到的教育是,
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that homosexuality同性恋 was a sin, and by extension延期,
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同性恋是罪恶的,
据此推断,
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that all gay同性恋者 people were a negative influence影响.
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所有的同性恋者都有着
消极的影响。
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As chance机会 would have it, I had the opportunity机会
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在我打暑期工的时间里,
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to work with some of the gay同性恋者 performers表演者
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我有机会和同性恋演员
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at a show显示 there,
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一起合作,
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and soon不久 found发现 that many许多 were the kindest最善良,
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我很快发现,很多同性恋者
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least最小 judgmental评判 people I had ever met会见.
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是我所见过最善良,
最自由开放尊重他人的人。
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Being存在 bullied欺负 as a kid孩子
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在儿童时期被欺负的经历
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created创建 a sense of empathy同情 in me
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教给我要对他人的遭遇
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toward the suffering痛苦 of others其他,
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感到同情和怜悯,
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and it comes very unnaturally非自然 to me
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对我来说,
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to treat对待 people who are kind
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我会善待那些
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in any other way than how
I would want to be treated治疗.
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对我好的人。
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Because of that feeling感觉, I was able能够
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因为这样的感受,我能够
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to contrast对比 the stereotypes定型 I'd been taught as a child儿童
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用真实生活和交际经历来
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with real真实 life experience经验 and interaction相互作用.
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抵挡从孩童时期就被灌输的成见。
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I don't know what it's like to be gay同性恋者,
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我不知道作为同性恋者的感受,
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but I'm well acquainted熟悉 with being存在 judged判断
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但我熟知那种被
06:21
for something that's beyond my control控制.
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无法掌控的事物所评断的感受。
06:25
Then there was "The Daily日常 Show显示."
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接着,有个“每日秀”的节目出现了。
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On a nightly每夜 basis基础, Jon乔恩 Stewart斯图尔特 forced被迫 me
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每一晚,乔恩·斯图尔特催促我
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to be intellectually知性上 honest诚实 with
myself about my own拥有 bigotry偏执
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诚实面对自己的偏见,
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and helped帮助 me to realize实现 that a person's人的 race种族,
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帮助我认识到一个人的种族,
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religion宗教 or sexual有性 orientation方向
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信仰和性取向
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had nothing to do with the quality质量 of one's那些 character字符.
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对这个人的人格没有任何关系。
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He was in many许多 ways方法 a father父亲 figure数字 to me
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某种程度上说,
每当我迫切需要一个父亲的时候,
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when I was in desperate殊死 need of one.
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他就在那里。
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Inspiration灵感 can often经常 come
from an unexpected意外 place地点,
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鼓舞人心之事
往往来自你无法预知的地方,
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and the fact事实 that a Jewish犹太 comedian喜剧演员 had doneDONE more
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事实上,一个犹太裔喜剧明星
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to positively积极 influence影响 my worldview世界观
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积极地影响我的世界观,
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than my own拥有 extremist极端主义 father父亲
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比我那极端的亲生父亲
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is not lost丢失 on me.
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多得多。
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One day, I had a conversation会话 with my mother母亲
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某天,我和母亲谈到
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about how my worldview世界观 was starting开始 to change更改,
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我的世界观正在改变,
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and she said something to me
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她对我说,
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that I will hold保持 dear to my heart
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我将在生命里
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for as long as I live生活.
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一直带着尊重的心。
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She looked看着 at me with the weary厌倦 eyes眼睛
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她用疲倦的眼神看着我,
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of someone有人 who had experienced有经验的
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她受够了
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enough足够 dogmatism独断论 to last a lifetime一生, and said,
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被教条主义侵占的人生,
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"I'm tired of hating people."
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说到:“我不愿憎恨他人了。”
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In that instant瞬间, I realized实现 how much negative energy能源
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瞬间,我意识到,在内心里承受憎恨
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it takes to hold保持 that hatred inside of you.
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需要多么巨大的负能量。
07:36
Zak扎克 Ebrahim易卜拉欣 is not my real真实 name名称.
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扎克‧伊博黑姆不是我的本名。
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I changed it when my family家庭 decided决定
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当我的家人决定
和我父亲断绝关系时
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to end结束 our connection连接 with my father父亲
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我改了这个名字
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and start开始 a new life.
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以开始新的生活。
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So why would I out myself
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那么,我为什么要
出现在公众视线前
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and potentially可能 put myself in danger危险?
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将自己置于可能的危险境地呢?
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Well, that's simple简单.
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嗯,这很容易解释。
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I do it in the hopes希望 that perhaps也许 someone有人 someday日后
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我这样做是希望也许某人某天
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who is compelled被迫 to use violence暴力
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当他决定使用武力
反抗社会的时候
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may可能 hear my story故事 and realize实现
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可能会听到我的故事,并意识到
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that there is a better way,
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有比动武更好的方法,
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that although虽然 I had been subjected
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尽管我曾被灌输
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to this violent暴力, intolerant不可忍耐 ideology思想,
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这样的暴力思维,
偏狭的意识,
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that I did not become成为 fanaticizedfanaticized.
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我并没有为其所动。
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Instead代替, I choose选择 to use my experience经验
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而是选择通过自己的经验
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to fight斗争 back against反对 terrorism恐怖主义,
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来抵抗恐怖主义,
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against反对 the bigotry偏执.
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来反对偏见。
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I do it for the victims受害者 of terrorism恐怖主义
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我为了那些恐怖袭击的受害者
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and their loved喜爱 ones那些,
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以及他们的亲人而这样做,
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for the terrible可怕 pain疼痛 and loss失利
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为了那些被恐怖主义活动所造成的
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that terrorism恐怖主义 has forced被迫 upon their lives生活.
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生命的苦痛和损失而这样做。
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For the victims受害者 of terrorism恐怖主义, I will speak说话 out
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为了那些遭受恐怖袭击的
受害者,我站出来
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against反对 these senseless无意义 acts行为
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反对这些毫无意义的袭击行动,
08:34
and condemn谴责 my father's父亲的 actions行动.
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谴责我父亲的行为。
08:38
And with that simple简单 fact事实, I stand here as proof证明
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就是这样简单的原因,
我站在这里证明
08:41
that violence暴力 isn't inherent固有 in one's那些 religion宗教 or race种族,
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暴力不是宗教或种族与生俱来的,
08:45
and the son儿子 does not have to follow跟随
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儿子并不需要走上
08:48
the ways方法 of his father父亲.
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和父亲相同的道路。
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I am not my father父亲.
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我不是我的父亲。
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Thank you. (Applause掌声)
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谢谢。(掌声)
08:57
Thank you, everybody每个人. (Applause掌声)
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谢谢各位。(掌声)
09:01
Thank you all. (Applause掌声)
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谢谢大家。(掌声)
09:03
Thanks谢谢 a lot. (Applause掌声)
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非常感谢。(掌声)
Translated by Zhiting Chen
Reviewed by Geoff Chen

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zak Ebrahim - Peace activist
Groomed for terror, Zak Ebrahim chose a different life. The author of The Terrorist's Son, he hopes his story will inspire others to reject a path of violence.

Why you should listen

When Zak Ebrahim was seven, his family went on the run. His father, El Sayyid Nosair, had hoped Zak would follow in his footsteps -- and become a jihadist. Instead, Zak was at the beginning of a long journey to comprehend his past.

Zak Ebrahim kept his family history a secret as they moved through a long succession of towns. In 2010, he realized his experience as a terrorist’s son not only gave him a unique perspective, but also a unique chance to show that if he could escape a violent heritage, anyone could. As he told Truthdig.com, “We must embrace tolerance and nonviolence. Who knows this better than the son of a terrorist?”

In 2014 Ebrahim published the TED Book The Terrorist's Son, a memoir written with Jeff Giles about the path he took to turn away from hate. In early 2015 the book won an American Library Association Alex award.

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Zak Ebrahim | Speaker | TED.com

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