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Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
Dejv Isaj (Dave Isay): Svi oko vas imaju priču koju svet treba da čuje
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Dejv Isaj je otvorio svoj prvu Storikorps kabinu u njujorškom Grand Central Terminalu 2003. godine sa namerom da stvori mirno mesto gde će osoba moći da oda priznanje nekome ko im je značio slušanjem njegove priče. Od tada, Stoikorps se razvio u najveću ikada zabeleženu kolekciju ljudskih glasova. Njegova želja povodom TED nagrade je da uveća ovaj digitalni arhiv kolektivne mudrosti čovečanstva. Poslušajte njegovu viziju za globalno proširenje Storikorpsa - i kako možete biti deo toga tako što ćete intervjuisati nekoga pomoću Storikorps aplikacije.
Dave Isay - Story collector
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
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Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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Večeras ću pokušati da vam predstavim
00:15
that inviting a loved one, a friend
or even a stranger
or even a stranger
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kako poziv voljenoj osobi,
prijatelju ili čak i nekom nepoznatom
prijatelju ili čak i nekom nepoznatom
00:19
to record a meaningful interview with you
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da snimi značajan intervju sa vama
00:22
just might turn out to be one of the most
important moments in that person's life,
important moments in that person's life,
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može biti jedan od najvažnijih trenutaka
u životu te osobe,
u životu te osobe,
00:26
and in yours.
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a i u vašem.
00:29
When I was 22 years old,
I was lucky enough to find my calling
I was lucky enough to find my calling
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Kada sam imao 22 godine,
imao sam sreće da otkrijem svoj poziv
imao sam sreće da otkrijem svoj poziv
00:32
when I fell into making radio stories.
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kada sam ušao u pravljenje radio priča.
00:35
At almost the exact same time,
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Gotovo istovremeno,
00:37
I found out that my dad,
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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saznao sam da je moj tata, sa kim sam bio
veoma, veoma blizak, gej.
veoma, veoma blizak, gej.
00:42
I was taken completely by surprise.
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Bio sam potpuno iznenađen.
00:44
We were a very tight-knit family,
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Bili smo vrlo povezana porodica,
00:47
and I was crushed.
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i bio sam slomljen.
U nekom trenutku,
u jednom od naših nategnutih razgovora,
u jednom od naših nategnutih razgovora,
00:49
At some point, in one
of our strained conversations,
of our strained conversations,
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00:52
my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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moj tata je pomenuo Stounvolsku pobunu.
00:54
He told me that one night in 1969,
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Rekao mi je da se jedne noći 1969. godine
00:58
a group of young black
and Latino drag queens
and Latino drag queens
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grupa mladih
crnačkih i latino transvestita
crnačkih i latino transvestita
01:00
fought back against the police
at a gay bar in Manhattan
at a gay bar in Manhattan
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borila protiv policije
u gej baru na Menhetnu
u gej baru na Menhetnu
01:04
called the Stonewall Inn,
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zvanom Stounvol In,
01:06
and how this sparked
the modern gay rights movement.
the modern gay rights movement.
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i da je to pokrenulo
moderni pokret za gej prava.
moderni pokret za gej prava.
01:10
It was an amazing story,
and it piqued my interest.
and it piqued my interest.
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To je bila neverovatna priča
i probudila je moju zainteresovanost.
i probudila je moju zainteresovanost.
01:13
So I decided to pick up my tape
recorder and find out more.
recorder and find out more.
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Tako da sam odlučio da uzmem svoj diktafon
i saznam više o tome.
i saznam više o tome.
01:17
With the help of a young archivist
named Michael Shirker,
named Michael Shirker,
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Uz pomoć mladog arhiviste
po imenu Majkl Širker,
po imenu Majkl Širker,
01:21
we tracked down all
of the people we could find
of the people we could find
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pronašli smo sve ljude
koje je bilo moguće naći
koje je bilo moguće naći
01:24
who had been at
the Stonewall Inn that night.
the Stonewall Inn that night.
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koji su bili u Stounvol Inu te noći.
01:27
Recording these interviews,
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Snimajući te intervjue,
01:29
I saw how the microphone
gave me the license
gave me the license
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video sam kako mi je mikrofon dao dozvolu
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to go places I otherwise
never would have gone
never would have gone
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da odem na mesta
na koja inače ne bih otišao
na koja inače ne bih otišao
01:34
and talk to people I might not
otherwise ever have spoken to.
otherwise ever have spoken to.
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i pričam sa ljudima
sa kojima inače ne bih nikada pričao.
sa kojima inače ne bih nikada pričao.
01:38
I had the privilege of getting to know
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Imao sam privilegiju da upoznam
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some of the most amazing,
fierce and courageous human beings
fierce and courageous human beings
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neke od najneverovatnijih,
žestokih i hrabrih ljudi
žestokih i hrabrih ljudi
01:44
I had ever met.
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koje sam ikada sreo.
01:46
It was the first time
the story of Stonewall
the story of Stonewall
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To je bilo prvi put
da je priča o Stounvolu
da je priča o Stounvolu
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had been told to a national audience.
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saopštena domaćoj publici.
01:50
I dedicated the program to my dad,
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Posvetio sam program mom tati,
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it changed my relationship with him,
and it changed my life.
and it changed my life.
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to je promenilo moj odnos sa njim
i promenilo je moj život.
i promenilo je moj život.
02:00
Over the next 15 years,
I made many more radio documentaries,
I made many more radio documentaries,
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Tokom narednih 15 godina, napravio sam
mnogo drugih radio dokumentaraca,
mnogo drugih radio dokumentaraca,
02:03
working to shine a light on people
who are rarely heard from in the media.
who are rarely heard from in the media.
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radeći na tome da bacim svetlost na ljude
koji se retko čuju u medijima.
koji se retko čuju u medijima.
02:07
Over and over again,
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Iznova i iznova,
02:09
I'd see how this simple act
of being interviewed
of being interviewed
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video bih kako ovaj
jednostavan čin intervjuisanja
jednostavan čin intervjuisanja
02:11
could mean so much to people,
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toliko mnogo znači ljudima,
02:14
particularly those who had been told
that their stories didn't matter.
that their stories didn't matter.
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naročito onima kojima je rečeno
da njihove priče nisu bitne.
da njihove priče nisu bitne.
02:17
I could literally see
people's back straighten
people's back straighten
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Bukvalno bih video
kako se ljudima isprave leđa
kako se ljudima isprave leđa
02:20
as they started to speak
into the microphone.
into the microphone.
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kada počinju da pričaju u mikrofon.
02:22
In 1998, I made a documentary
about the last flophouse hotels
about the last flophouse hotels
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1998. godine sam napravio dokumentarac
o poslednjim sirotinjskim hotelima
o poslednjim sirotinjskim hotelima
02:27
on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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u Boveriju na Menhetnu.
02:29
Guys stayed up in these
cheap hotels for decades.
cheap hotels for decades.
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Ljudi su decenijama ostajali
u tim jeftinim hotelima.
u tim jeftinim hotelima.
02:32
They lived in cubicles
the size of prison cells
the size of prison cells
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Živeli su u kabinama
veličine zatvorske ćelije
veličine zatvorske ćelije
02:34
covered with chicken wire
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prekrivenim žičanom preprekom
02:36
so you couldn't jump
from one room into the next.
from one room into the next.
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tako da ne možete da uskačete
iz jedne sobe u drugu.
iz jedne sobe u drugu.
02:39
Later, I wrote a book on the men
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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Kasnije sam napisao knjigu o tim ljudima
sa fotografom Harvijem Vengom.
sa fotografom Harvijem Vengom.
02:43
I remember walking into a flophouse
with an early version of the book
with an early version of the book
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Sećam se da sam ušetao u hotel
sa ranom verzijom knjige
sa ranom verzijom knjige
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and showing one of the guys his page.
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i pokazao jednom tipu njegovu stranicu.
02:50
He stood there staring at it in silence,
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Stajao je i u tišini zurio u nju,
02:52
then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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zatim je zgrabio knjigu iz moje ruke
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and started running down
the long, narrow hallway
the long, narrow hallway
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i počeo da trči niz dugačak uzani hodnik
02:58
holding it over his head
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držeći je iznad glave
02:59
shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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i uzvikujući: "Ja postojim! Ja postojim!"
03:04
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
03:08
In many ways, "I exist" became
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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Na mnogo načina, "ja postojim" je postalo
poziv na akciju za Storikorps,
poziv na akciju za Storikorps,
03:12
this crazy idea that I had
a dozen years ago.
a dozen years ago.
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tu ludu ideju koju sam imao
pre desetinu godina.
pre desetinu godina.
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The thought was to take
documentary work
documentary work
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Zamisao je bila
uzeti rad na dokumentarcima
uzeti rad na dokumentarcima
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and turn it on its head.
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i izvrnuti ga naopačke.
03:20
Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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Tradicionalno, emitovani dokumentarci
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has been about recording interviews
to create a work of art or entertainment
to create a work of art or entertainment
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su podrazumevali snimanje intervjua
da bi se stvorilo umetničko delo, zabavno
da bi se stvorilo umetničko delo, zabavno
03:26
or education that is seen or heard
by a whole lot of people,
by a whole lot of people,
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ili edukativno delo
koje će videti ili čuti veoma mnogo ljudi,
koje će videti ili čuti veoma mnogo ljudi,
ali ja sam želeo da probam nešto
03:30
but I wanted to try something
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03:32
where the interview itself
was the purpose of this work,
was the purpose of this work,
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gde je intervju sam po sebi
svrha tog dela,
svrha tog dela,
03:35
and see if we could give many,
many, many people the chance
many, many people the chance
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i da vidim da li možemo pružiti šansu
znatnom broju ljudi
znatnom broju ljudi
03:38
to be listened to in this way.
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da na taj način budu saslušani.
03:41
So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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Tako smo pre 11 godina
u Grand Central Terminalu
u Grand Central Terminalu
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we built a booth where anyone
can come to honor someone else
can come to honor someone else
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napravili kabinu gde bilo ko može doći
da oda priznanje nekom drugom
da oda priznanje nekom drugom
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by interviewing them about their life.
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intervjuišući ga o njegovom životu.
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You come to this booth and you're met
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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Kada dođete u tu kabinu, srećete
facilitatora koji vas uvodi unutra.
facilitatora koji vas uvodi unutra.
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You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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Sedite naspram, recimo, vašeg dede
03:57
for close to an hour
and you listen and you talk.
and you listen and you talk.
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blizu jednog sata i slušate i govorite.
04:00
Many people think of it as,
if this was to be our last conversation,
if this was to be our last conversation,
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Mnogi razmišljaju o tome na ovaj način:
kada bi ovo bio naš poslednji razgovor,
kada bi ovo bio naš poslednji razgovor,
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what would I want to ask of
and say to this person
and say to this person
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šta bih želeo da pitam i kažem ovoj osobi
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who means so much to me?
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koja mi toliko znači?
04:09
At the end of the session,
you walk away with a copy of the interview
you walk away with a copy of the interview
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Po završetku ove sesije,
izlazite sa kopijom intervjua
izlazite sa kopijom intervjua
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and another copy goes
to the American Folklife Center
to the American Folklife Center
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a druga kopija odlazi
centru "American Folklife"
centru "American Folklife"
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at the Library of Congress
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u Kongresnoj biblioteci
04:18
so that your great-great-great-grandkids
can someday get to know your grandfather
can someday get to know your grandfather
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kako bi vaši čukun-čukun-čukununuci
mogli da jednog dana upoznaju vašeg dedu
mogli da jednog dana upoznaju vašeg dedu
04:22
through his voice and story.
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kroz njegov glas i priču.
Tako smo otvorili ovu kabinu
na jednom od najprometnijih mesta na svetu
na jednom od najprometnijih mesta na svetu
04:25
So we open this booth
in one of the busiest places in the world
in one of the busiest places in the world
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04:28
and invite people to have this
incredibly intimate conversation
incredibly intimate conversation
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i pozvali ljude da obave
ovaj neverovatno intimni razgvor
ovaj neverovatno intimni razgvor
04:32
with another human being.
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sa drugim ljudskim bićem.
04:33
I had no idea if it would work,
but from the very beginning, it did.
but from the very beginning, it did.
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Nisam imao pojma da li će uspeti,
ali jeste i to od samog početka.
ali jeste i to od samog početka.
04:38
People treated the experience
with incredible respect,
with incredible respect,
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Ljudi su imali izuzetno poštovanje
prema ovom iskustvu,
prema ovom iskustvu,
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and amazing conversations happened inside.
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i unutra su se odvijali
neverovatni razgovori.
neverovatni razgovori.
04:44
I want to play just one animated excerpt
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Želim da vam pustim
jedan animirani odlomak
jedan animirani odlomak
04:47
from an interview recorded
at that original Grand Central Booth.
at that original Grand Central Booth.
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iz intervjua snimljenog u toj originalnoj
Grand Central kabini.
Grand Central kabini.
04:50
This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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Ovo je 12-ogodišnji Džošua Litman
koji intervjuiše svoju majku Saru.
koji intervjuiše svoju majku Saru.
04:55
Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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Džoš ima Aspergerov sindrom.
04:57
As you may know, kids with Asperger's
are incredibly smart
are incredibly smart
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Kao što možda znate,
deca sa Aspergerom su izuzetno pametna
deca sa Aspergerom su izuzetno pametna
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but have a tough time socially.
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ali imaju teškoća na društvenom planu.
05:02
They usually have obsessions.
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Obično imaju opsesije.
05:04
In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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U Džošovom slučaju,
one su bile vezane za životinje,
one su bile vezane za životinje,
05:06
so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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i evo Džoša
kako priča sa svojom mamom Sarom
kako priča sa svojom mamom Sarom
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at Grand Central nine years ago.
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U Grand Centralu pre devet godina.
05:12
(Video) Josh Littman:
From a scale of one to 10,
From a scale of one to 10,
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(Video) Džoš Litman:
Na skali od jedan do 10,
Na skali od jedan do 10,
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do you think your life would be
different without animals?
different without animals?
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da li misliš da bi tvoj život
bio drugačiji bez životinja?
bio drugačiji bez životinja?
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Sarah Littman: I think it would be
an eight without animals,
an eight without animals,
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Sara Litman: Mislim da bi to bila osmica
bez životinja,
bez životinja,
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because they add so much pleasure to life.
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jer one dodaju toliko zadovoljstva životu.
05:22
JL: How else do you think your life
would be different without them?
would be different without them?
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DžL: Kako još misliš
da bi tvoj život bio drugačiji bez njih?
da bi tvoj život bio drugačiji bez njih?
SL: Mogla bih da živim bez nekih
kao što su bubašvabe i zmije.
kao što su bubašvabe i zmije.
05:25
SL: I could do without things
like cockroaches and snakes.
like cockroaches and snakes.
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05:28
JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
as long as they're not venomous
as long as they're not venomous
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DžL: Pa, ja sam okej sa zmijama
ako nisu otrovnice
ako nisu otrovnice
ili udavi ili tako nešto.
05:31
or constrict you or anything.
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SL: Da, ja nisam
veliki obožavatelj zmija -
veliki obožavatelj zmija -
05:32
SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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05:34
JL: But cockroach is just
the insect we love to hate.
the insect we love to hate.
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DžL: Ali bubašvaba je baš insekt
kojeg volimo da mrzimo.
kojeg volimo da mrzimo.
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SL: Yeah, it really is.
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SL: Da, stvarno jeste.
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JL: Have you ever thought
you couldn't cope with having a child?
you couldn't cope with having a child?
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DžL: Da li si ikada pomislila
da se nećeš snaći sa svojim detetom?
da se nećeš snaći sa svojim detetom?
05:41
SL: I remember when you were a baby,
you had really bad colic,
you had really bad colic,
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SL: Sećam se kad si bio beba,
imao si stvarno teške kolike,
imao si stvarno teške kolike,
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so you would just cry and cry.
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pa si samo plakao i plakao.
05:46
JL: What's colic?
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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DžL: Šta je kolika?
SL: To je kada dobiješ bolove u stomaku
SL: To je kada dobiješ bolove u stomaku
05:50
and all you do is scream
for, like, four hours.
for, like, four hours.
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i samo vrištiš, recimo, četiri sata.
05:52
JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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DžL: Čak i glasnije od Ejmi?
05:54
SL: You were pretty loud,
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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SL: Ti si bio prilično glasan,
ali Ejmi je bila piskavija.
ali Ejmi je bila piskavija.
05:57
JL: I think it feels like everyone
seems to like Amy more,
seems to like Amy more,
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DžL: Meni se čini
kao da svi više vole Ejmi,
kao da svi više vole Ejmi,
06:01
like she's the perfect little angel.
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kao da je ona savršeni mali anđeo.
06:03
SL: Well, I can understand
why you think that people like Amy more,
why you think that people like Amy more,
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SL: Pa, mogu da razumem zašto misliš
da ljudi više vole Ejmi,
da ljudi više vole Ejmi,
06:07
and I'm not saying it's because
of your Asperger's syndrome,
of your Asperger's syndrome,
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a ne kažem da je to
zbog tvog Aspergerovog sindroma,
zbog tvog Aspergerovog sindroma,
06:10
but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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već zato što je za Ejmi
lakše da bude druželjubiva,
lakše da bude druželjubiva,
06:13
whereas I think for you
it's more difficult,
it's more difficult,
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dok je to tebi teže,
06:15
but the people who take the time
to get to know you love you so much.
to get to know you love you so much.
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ali ljudi koji izdvoje vreme
da te upoznaju, mnogo te vole.
da te upoznaju, mnogo te vole.
06:19
JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos?
SL: Yeah --
SL: Yeah --
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DžL: Kao Ben ili Erik ili Karlos?
SL: Da -
SL: Da -
06:22
JL: Like I have better quality friends
but less quantity? (Laughter)
but less quantity? (Laughter)
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DžL: Znači ja imam bolji kvalitet
prijatelja ali manji kvantitet? (Smeh)
prijatelja ali manji kvantitet? (Smeh)
06:26
SL: I wouldn't judge
the quality, but I think --
the quality, but I think --
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SL: Ne bih da sudim o kvalitetu,
ali mislim -
ali mislim -
06:29
JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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DžL: Mislim, Ejmi je prvo volela Klaudiju,
onda je mrzela Klaudiju,
onda je mrzela Klaudiju,
pa je volela Klaudiju,
pa je mrzela Klaudiju.
pa je mrzela Klaudiju.
06:32
she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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06:34
SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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SL: To su bile neke ženske stvari, dušo.
06:36
The important thing for you
is that you have a few very good friends,
is that you have a few very good friends,
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Za tebe je važno da imaš
nekoliko veoma dobrih prijatelja,
nekoliko veoma dobrih prijatelja,
06:40
and really that's what you need in life.
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i to je zapravo ono šta ti treba u životu.
06:42
JL: Did I turn out to be the son
you wanted when I was born?
you wanted when I was born?
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DžL: Da li sam ispao sin
koga si želela kada sam se rodio?
koga si želela kada sam se rodio?
06:46
Did I meet your expectations?
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Da li sam ispunio tvoja očekivanja?
06:49
SL: You've exceeded
my expectations, sweetie,
my expectations, sweetie,
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SL: Premašio si moja očekivanja, dušo,
06:52
because, sure, you have these fantasies
of what your child's going to be like,
of what your child's going to be like,
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jer, istina, imamo fantazije
o tome kakvo će nam dete biti,
o tome kakvo će nam dete biti,
06:56
but you have made me grow
so much as a parent, because you think --
so much as a parent, because you think --
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ali zbog tebe sam se toliko razvila
kao roditelj, jer ti razmišljaš -
kao roditelj, jer ti razmišljaš -
07:00
JL: Well, I was the one
who made you a parent.
who made you a parent.
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DžL: Pa, ja sam te učinio roditeljem.
07:02
SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
That's a good point. (Laughter)
That's a good point. (Laughter)
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SL: Ti si me učinio roditeljem.
Dobro rečeno. (Smeh)
Dobro rečeno. (Smeh)
Ali i zato što ti razmišljaš drugačije
07:06
But also because you think differently
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07:08
from what they tell you
in the parenting books,
in the parenting books,
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od onoga što se opisuje
u knjigama o roditeljstvu,
u knjigama o roditeljstvu,
07:11
I really had to learn to think
outside of the box with you,
outside of the box with you,
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zaista sam morala da naučim
da razmišljam nekonvencionalno,
da razmišljam nekonvencionalno,
07:14
and it's made me much more creative
as a parent and as a person,
as a parent and as a person,
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i to me je učinilo mnogo kreativnijom
kao roditelja i kao ličnost,
kao roditelja i kao ličnost,
i zbog toga ću ti uvek biti zahvalna.
07:19
and I'll always thank you for that.
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07:21
JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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DžL: A to je pomoglo kad se Ejmi rodila?
07:22
SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
but you are so incredibly special to me
but you are so incredibly special to me
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SL: A to je pomoglo kad se Ejmi rodila,
ali ti si za mene izuzetno poseban
ali ti si za mene izuzetno poseban
07:27
and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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i toliko sam srećna što si moj sin.
07:31
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
Dejvid Isaj: Nakon što je ova priča
javno emitovana na radiju,
javno emitovana na radiju,
07:38
David Isay: After this story
ran on public radio,
ran on public radio,
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07:41
Josh received hundreds of letters
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Džoš je primio stotine pisama
07:43
telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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u kojima su mu govorili
kako je on neverovatno dete.
kako je on neverovatno dete.
07:45
His mom, Sarah, bound them
together in a book,
together in a book,
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Njegova mama Sara ih je povezala u knjigu,
07:47
and when Josh got picked on at school,
they would read the letters together.
they would read the letters together.
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i kada bi Džoša zadirkivali u školi,
oni bi zajedno čitali pisma.
oni bi zajedno čitali pisma.
07:51
I just want to acknowledge
that two of my heroes
that two of my heroes
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Samo želim da podelim
da su moja dva heroja
da su moja dva heroja
07:53
are here with us tonight.
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ovde večeras sa nama.
07:55
Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
who is now an honors student in college.
who is now an honors student in college.
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Sara Litman i njen sin Džoš,
koji je sada počasni student na koledžu.
koji je sada počasni student na koledžu.
08:00
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
08:03
You know, a lot of people talk about
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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Znate, mnogi govore o plakanju
kada čuju Storikorps priče,
kada čuju Storikorps priče,
08:07
and it's not because they're sad.
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a to nije zbog toga što su tužne.
08:09
Most of them aren't.
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Većina njih nije.
08:10
I think it's because you're hearing
something authentic and pure
something authentic and pure
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Mislim da je to zato što čuju
nešto autentično i čisto
nešto autentično i čisto
08:14
at this moment,
when sometimes it's hard to tell
when sometimes it's hard to tell
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u ovo vreme, kada je ponekad teško reći
08:16
what's real and what's an advertisement.
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šta je stvarno, a šta je reklama.
08:19
It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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To je neka vrsta anti-rialiti televizije.
08:21
Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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Niko ne dolazi u Storikorps da se obogati.
08:23
Nobody comes to get famous.
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Niko ne dolazi da se proslavi.
08:25
It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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To je jednostavno čin
velikodušnosti i ljubavi.
velikodušnosti i ljubavi.
Mnogi od njih su samo obični ljudi
koji govore o životima
koji govore o životima
08:28
So many of these are just everyday people
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08:31
talking about lives lived with kindness,
courage, decency and dignity,
courage, decency and dignity,
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proživljenim sa dobrotom, hrabrošću,
pristojnošću i dostojanstvom,
pristojnošću i dostojanstvom,
08:36
and when you hear that kind of story,
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i kada čujete takvu priču,
08:38
it can sometimes feel
like you're walking on holy ground.
like you're walking on holy ground.
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nekad se može činiti
kao da hodate po svetom tlu.
kao da hodate po svetom tlu.
08:42
So this experiment
in Grand Central worked,
in Grand Central worked,
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Dakle, ovaj eksperiment
u Grand Centralu je uspeo,
u Grand Centralu je uspeo,
08:45
and we expanded across the country.
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i proširili smo se po celoj zemlji.
08:47
Today, more than 100,000 people
in all 50 states
in all 50 states
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Danas, više od 100 000 ljudi
u svih 50 država
u svih 50 država
08:50
in thousands of cities
and towns across America
and towns across America
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u hiljadama gradova i gradića
širom Amerike
širom Amerike
08:53
have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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snimilo je Storikorps intervjue.
08:56
It's now the largest single collection
of human voices ever gathered.
of human voices ever gathered.
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To je sada najveća ikada sakupljena
kolekcija ljudskih glasova.
kolekcija ljudskih glasova.
09:00
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
09:06
We've hired and trained
hundreds of facilitators
hundreds of facilitators
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Angažovali smo i obučili
stotine facilitatora
stotine facilitatora
09:09
to help guide people
through the experience.
through the experience.
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kako bi pomogli u vođenju ljudi
kroz ovo iskustvo.
kroz ovo iskustvo.
09:11
Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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Većina njih radi za Storikorps
godinu ili dve
godinu ili dve
09:14
traveling the country,
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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putujući zemljom,
prikupljajući mudrost čovečanstva.
prikupljajući mudrost čovečanstva.
09:17
They call it bearing witness,
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Oni to zovu svedočenjem,
09:19
and if you ask them,
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i ako ih pitate,
09:21
all of the facilitators will tell you
that the most important thing
that the most important thing
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svi facilitatori će vam reći
da je najvažnija stvar
da je najvažnija stvar
09:24
they've learned from being present
during these interviews
during these interviews
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koju su naučili
prisustvujući ovim intervjuima
prisustvujući ovim intervjuima
09:27
is that people are basically good.
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ta da su ljudi u suštini dobri.
Mislim da biste za prvih nekoliko godina
Storikorpsa mogli pomisliti
Storikorpsa mogli pomisliti
09:30
And I think for the first years
of StoryCorps, you could argue
of StoryCorps, you could argue
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09:33
that there was some kind
of a selection bias happening,
of a selection bias happening,
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da se tu dešava
nekakva pristrasnost u odabiru,
nekakva pristrasnost u odabiru,
09:36
but after tens of thousands of interviews
with every kind of person
with every kind of person
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ali nakon desetina hiljada intervjua
sa svakojakim osobama
sa svakojakim osobama
09:39
in every part of the country --
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u svakom delu zemlje -
09:41
rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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bogatima, siromašnima,
uzrasta od pet do 105 godina,
uzrasta od pet do 105 godina,
09:44
80 different languages,
across the political spectrum --
across the political spectrum --
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na 80 različitih jezika,
kroz ceo politički sprektrum -
kroz ceo politički sprektrum -
09:49
you have to think that maybe these guys
are actually onto something.
are actually onto something.
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morate pomisliti da su možda ovi ljudi
zaista na tragu nečega.
zaista na tragu nečega.
09:53
I've also learned so much
from these interviews.
from these interviews.
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Takođe sam i toliko toga naučio
iz ovih intervjua.
iz ovih intervjua.
09:56
I've learned about the poetry
and the wisdom and the grace
and the wisdom and the grace
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Naučio sam o poeziji,
mudrosti i gracioznosti
mudrosti i gracioznosti
09:59
that can be found in the words
of people all around us
of people all around us
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koji se mogu naći u rečima ljudi oko nas
10:02
when we simply take the time to listen,
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kada samo izdvojimo vreme da ih slušamo,
10:05
like this interview
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kao u ovom intervjuu
10:09
between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
named Danny Perasa
named Danny Perasa
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između službenika kladionice u Bruklinu
po imenu Deni Perasa
po imenu Deni Perasa
10:12
who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
to talk about his love for her.
to talk about his love for her.
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koji je doveo svoju ženu Eni u Storikorps
da bi govorio o svojoj ljubavi prema njoj.
da bi govorio o svojoj ljubavi prema njoj.
10:18
(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
the thing of it is,
the thing of it is,
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(Audio) Deni Perasa: Vidiš,
stvar je u tome
stvar je u tome
10:20
I always feel guilty when I say
"I love you" to you.
"I love you" to you.
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što uvek osećam krivicu
kada ti kažem "volim te".
kada ti kažem "volim te".
10:23
And I say it so often.
I say it to remind you
I say it to remind you
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A govorim to tako često,
govorim ti to da bih te podsetio
govorim ti to da bih te podsetio
10:26
that as dumpy as I am,
it's coming from me.
it's coming from me.
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da koliko god da sam nezgrapan,
to dolazi od mene.
to dolazi od mene.
10:29
It's like hearing a beautiful song
from a busted old radio,
from a busted old radio,
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To je kao da čujete prelepu pesmu
sa razbucanog starog radija,
sa razbucanog starog radija,
10:32
and it's nice of you to keep
the radio around the house.
the radio around the house.
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i lepo je od vas
što čuvate taj radio u kući.
što čuvate taj radio u kući.
10:35
Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
on the kitchen table,
on the kitchen table,
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Eni Perasa: Ako nema poruke za mene
na kuhinjskom stolu,
na kuhinjskom stolu,
pomislim da nešto nije u redu.
10:38
I think there's something wrong.
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Pišeš mi ljubavna pisma svakog jutra.
10:39
You write a love letter
to me every morning.
to me every morning.
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DP: Pa, jedina stvar koja bi mogla
da pođe po zlu
da pođe po zlu
10:41
DP: Well, the only thing
that could possibly be wrong
that could possibly be wrong
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bilo bi to da ne mogu
da nađem glupu olovku.
da nađem glupu olovku.
10:44
is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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EP: Mojoj princezi:
10:45
AP: To my princess:
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10:46
The weather outside today
is extremely rainy.
is extremely rainy.
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Danas je vreme napolju izuzetno kišovito.
10:49
I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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Zvaću te u 11:20 ujutru.
DP: To je romantična vremenska prognoza.
10:51
DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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10:52
AP: And I love you.
I love you. I love you.
I love you. I love you.
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EP: I volim te. Volim te. Volim te.
10:55
DP: When a guy is happily married,
no matter what happens at work,
no matter what happens at work,
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DP: Kada je čovek srećno oženjen,
šta god da se desi na poslu,
šta god da se desi na poslu,
10:58
no matter what happens
in the rest of the day,
in the rest of the day,
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šta god da se dogodi tokom ostatka dana,
uvek postoji utočište kada dođe kući,
11:00
there's a shelter when you get home,
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11:02
there's a knowledge knowing
that you can hug somebody
that you can hug somebody
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postoji ta svest o tome
da znate da možete zagrliti nekoga
da znate da možete zagrliti nekoga
11:05
without them throwing you downstairs
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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a da vas ta osoba neće odgurnuti
i reći: "Sklanjaj ruke s mene."
i reći: "Sklanjaj ruke s mene."
11:08
Being married is like having
a color television set.
a color television set.
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Biti u braku je kao da imate
televizor u boji.
televizor u boji.
11:11
You never want to go back
to black and white.
to black and white.
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Ne želite da se ikada više vratite
na crno-beli.
na crno-beli.
11:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:16
DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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DI: Deni je visok oko metar i po
11:18
with crossed eyes
and one single snaggletooth,
and one single snaggletooth,
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sa ukrštenim očima i izbačenim zubom,
11:22
but Danny Perasa had
more romance in his little pinky
more romance in his little pinky
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ali Deni Perasa ima više romantike
u svom malom prstu
u svom malom prstu
11:26
than all of Hollywood's
leading men put together.
leading men put together.
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nego svi glavni muškarci Holivuda zajedno.
11:29
What else have I learned?
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Šta sam još naučio?
11:31
I've learned about the almost
unimaginable capacity
unimaginable capacity
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Naučio sam
o gotovo nezamislivom kapacitetu
o gotovo nezamislivom kapacitetu
11:33
for the human spirit to forgive.
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ljudskog duha da oprosti.
11:36
I've learned about resilience
and I've learned about strength.
and I've learned about strength.
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Naučio sam o otpornosti i o snazi.
11:39
Like an interview with Oshea Israel
and Mary Johnson.
and Mary Johnson.
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Kao u intervjuu
sa Ošeom Izrael i Meri Džonson.
sa Ošeom Izrael i Meri Džonson.
11:43
When Oshea was a teenager,
he murdered Mary's only son,
he murdered Mary's only son,
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Kada je Ošej bio tinejdžer,
ubio je Merinog sina jedinca,
ubio je Merinog sina jedinca,
11:47
Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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Laramiuna Birda, u okršaju bandi.
11:50
A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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Desetak godina kasnije,
Meri je otišla u zatvor
Meri je otišla u zatvor
11:52
to meet Oshea and find out
who this person was
who this person was
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da upozna Ošea i otkrije ko je ta osoba
11:55
who had taken her son's life.
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koja je oduzela život njenom sinu.
11:58
Slowly and remarkably,
they became friends,
they became friends,
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Polako i izvanredno,
postali su prijatelji,
postali su prijatelji,
12:01
and when he was finally released
from the penitentiary,
from the penitentiary,
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a kada je on konačno pušten iz zatvora,
12:03
Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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Ošej se doselio u kuću do Meri.
12:07
This is just a short excerpt
of a conversation they had
of a conversation they had
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Ovo je samo kraći odlomak
razgovora koji su vodili
razgovora koji su vodili
12:10
soon after Oshea was freed.
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ubrzo nakon što je Ošej oslobođen.
12:14
(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
is no longer here.
is no longer here.
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(Audio) Meri Džonson: Moj biološki sin
više nije ovde.
više nije ovde.
12:17
I didn't see him graduate,
and now you're going to college.
and now you're going to college.
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Nisam ga videla kako diplomira,
a sada ti ideš na fakultet.
a sada ti ideš na fakultet.
12:20
I'll have the opportunity
to see you graduate.
to see you graduate.
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Imaću priliku da vidim tebe
kako diplomiraš.
kako diplomiraš.
12:24
I didn't see him get married.
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Nisam ga videla kako se ženi.
12:26
Hopefully one day, I'll be able
to experience that with you.
to experience that with you.
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Nadam se da ću jednoga dana
to moći da doživim sa tobom.
to moći da doživim sa tobom.
12:30
Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
say those things and to be
say those things and to be
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Ošej Izrael: Samo kada te čujem
kako govoriš te stvari
kako govoriš te stvari
12:33
in my life in the manner
in which you are is my motivation.
in which you are is my motivation.
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i kada si na takav način
prisutna u mom životu, to me motiviše.
prisutna u mom životu, to me motiviše.
12:36
It motivates me to make sure
that I stay on the right path.
that I stay on the right path.
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Motiviše me da se potrudim
da ostanem na pravom putu.
da ostanem na pravom putu.
12:41
You still believe in me,
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Još uvek veruješ u mene,
12:43
and the fact that you can do it
despite how much pain I caused you,
despite how much pain I caused you,
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a činjenica da to možeš
uprkos bolu koji sam ti izazvao,
uprkos bolu koji sam ti izazvao,
12:47
it's amazing.
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to je neverovatno.
12:49
MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
to be able to share our story together,
to be able to share our story together,
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MDž: Znam da nije laka stvar to što možemo
da zajedno podelimo našu priču,
da zajedno podelimo našu priču,
12:55
even with us sitting here
looking at each other right now.
looking at each other right now.
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čak i dok sada sedimo ovde
i gledamo jedno drugo.
i gledamo jedno drugo.
12:57
I know it's not an easy thing,
so I admire that you can do this.
so I admire that you can do this.
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Znam da to nije lako,
zato ti se divim što ovo možeš.
zato ti se divim što ovo možeš.
13:03
OI: I love you, lady.
MJ: I love you too, son.
MJ: I love you too, son.
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OI: Volim te, gospođo.
MDž: I ja tebe volim, sine.
MDž: I ja tebe volim, sine.
13:12
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:18
DI: And I've been reminded countless times
of the courage and goodness of people,
of the courage and goodness of people,
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DI: I bezbroj puta sam se podsetio
hrabrosti i dobrote ljudi
hrabrosti i dobrote ljudi
13:23
and how the arc of history
truly does bend towards justice.
truly does bend towards justice.
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i kako se svod istorije
zaista savija ka pravdi.
zaista savija ka pravdi.
13:28
Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
who was born Arthur Martinez
who was born Arthur Martinez
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Kao u priči Aleksise Martinez,
koja je rođena kao Artur Martinez,
koja je rođena kao Artur Martinez,
13:33
in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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u naselju Herold Ikis u Čikagu.
13:35
In the interview, she talks
with her daughter Lesley
with her daughter Lesley
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U intervjuu,
ona priča sa svojom ćerkom Lesli
ona priča sa svojom ćerkom Lesli
13:38
about joining a gang as a young man,
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o priključivanju bandi
kada je bila mladić,
kada je bila mladić,
13:40
and later in life transitioning
into the woman she was always meant to be.
into the woman she was always meant to be.
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i kasnije u životu, o prelaženju u ženu,
što je oduvek trebalo da bude.
što je oduvek trebalo da bude.
13:45
This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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Ovo su Aleksis i njena ćerka Lesli.
13:48
(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
difficult things for me was
difficult things for me was
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(Audio) Aleksis Martinez:
Jedna od najtežih stvari za mene je bila
Jedna od najtežih stvari za mene je bila
13:51
I was always afraid that
I wouldn't be allowed
I wouldn't be allowed
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to što sam uvek bila uplašena
da mi neće biti dopušteno
da mi neće biti dopušteno
13:54
to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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da budem deo života mojih unuka,
13:57
and you blew that completely
out of the water,
out of the water,
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a vi ste to uklonili u potpunosti,
13:59
you and your husband.
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ti i tvoj muž.
14:00
One of the fruits of that is,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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Jedan od plodova toga
je moj odnos sa unukama.
je moj odnos sa unukama.
14:04
they fight with each other sometimes
over whether I'm he or she.
over whether I'm he or she.
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Ponekad se svađajaju
oko toga da li sam on ili ona.
oko toga da li sam on ili ona.
14:07
Lesley Martinez: But they're free
to talk about it.
to talk about it.
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Lesli Martinez: Ali su slobodne
da pričaju o tome.
da pričaju o tome.
14:10
AM: They're free to talk about it,
but that, to me, is a miracle.
but that, to me, is a miracle.
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AM: Slobodne su da pričaju o tome,
ali to je čudo za mene.
ali to je čudo za mene.
14:13
LM: You don't have to apologize.
You don't have to tiptoe.
You don't have to tiptoe.
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LM: Ne moraš da se izvinjavaš.
Ne moraš da ideš na prstima.
Ne moraš da ideš na prstima.
14:16
We're not going to cut you off,
and that's something I've always
and that's something I've always
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Nećemo te odbaciti,
i to je nešto što sam uvek
i to je nešto što sam uvek
14:21
wanted you to just know,
that you're loved.
that you're loved.
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želela da znaš, da te volimo.
14:24
AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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AM: Znaš, živim svaki dan sa ovim.
14:26
I walk down the streets as a woman,
and I really am at peace with who I am.
and I really am at peace with who I am.
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Šetam ulicama kao žena
i zaista sam u miru sa tim ko sam.
i zaista sam u miru sa tim ko sam.
14:31
I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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Mislim, volela bih
možda da imam mekši glas,
možda da imam mekši glas,
14:34
but now I walk in love
and I try to live that way every day.
and I try to live that way every day.
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ali sada šetam u ljubavi
i nastojim da živim tako svakog dana.
i nastojim da živim tako svakog dana.
14:43
DI: Now I walk in love.
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DI: Sada šetam u ljubavi.
14:46
I'm going to tell you
a secret about StoryCorps.
a secret about StoryCorps.
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Reći ću vam tajnu o Storikorpsu.
14:49
It takes some courage
to have these conversations.
to have these conversations.
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Treba hrabrosti za ove razgovore.
14:53
StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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Storikorps se obraća našoj smrtnosti.
14:55
Participants know this recording
will be heard long after they're gone.
will be heard long after they're gone.
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Učesnici znaju da će se ovaj snimak
slušati dugo nakon što njih ne bude bilo.
slušati dugo nakon što njih ne bude bilo.
14:59
There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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Postoji doktor staračkog doma
po imenu Ajra Bajok
po imenu Ajra Bajok
15:02
who has worked closely with us
on recording interviews
on recording interviews
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koji je sarađivao sa nama
na snimanju intervjua
na snimanju intervjua
15:04
with people who are dying.
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sa ljudima koji umiru.
Napisao je knjigu pod nazivom
"Četiri stvari koje su najbitnije"
"Četiri stvari koje su najbitnije"
15:06
He wrote a book called
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
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15:09
about the four things you want to say
to the most important people in your life
to the most important people in your life
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o četiri stvari koje želite da kažete
najvažnijim ljudima u vašem životu
najvažnijim ljudima u vašem životu
15:12
before they or you die:
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pre nego što oni ili vi umrete:
15:15
thank you, I love you,
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hvala, volim te,
15:18
forgive me, I forgive you.
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oprosti mi, opraštam ti.
15:21
They're just about the most powerful words
we can say to one another,
we can say to one another,
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To su takoreći najsnažnije reči
koje možemo reći jedni drugima,
koje možemo reći jedni drugima,
15:25
and often that's what happens
in a StoryCorps booth.
in a StoryCorps booth.
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a to je često ono što se događa
u kabini Storikorpa.
u kabini Storikorpa.
15:28
It's a chance to have a sense of closure
with someone you care about --
with someone you care about --
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To je prilika da imate osećaj završnice
sa nekim do koga vam je stalo -
sa nekim do koga vam je stalo -
15:32
no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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bez kajanja, bez neizgovorenih reči.
15:34
And it's hard and it takes courage,
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A to je teško
i za to je potrebna hrabrost,
i za to je potrebna hrabrost,
15:38
but that's why we're alive, right?
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ali zbog toga živimo, zar ne?
15:43
So, the TED Prize.
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Dakle, TED nagrada.
15:45
When I first heard from TED
and Chris a few months ago
and Chris a few months ago
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Kada sam se prvi put čuo
sa TEDom i Krisom pre nekoliko meseci
sa TEDom i Krisom pre nekoliko meseci
15:48
about the possibility of the Prize,
I was completely floored.
I was completely floored.
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u vezi sa mogućnošću za nagradu,
bio sam potpuno oboren s nogu.
bio sam potpuno oboren s nogu.
15:52
They asked me to come up
with a very brief wish for humanity,
with a very brief wish for humanity,
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Zatražili su mi da smislim
vrlo kratku želju za čovečanstvo,
vrlo kratku želju za čovečanstvo,
15:56
no more than 50 words.
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ne više od 50 reči.
15:57
So I thought about it,
I wrote my 50 words,
I wrote my 50 words,
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Razmislio sam o tome, napisao 50 reči,
16:00
and a few weeks later,
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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i nekoliko nedelja kasnije,
Kris je nazvao i rekao: "Samo napred."
Kris je nazvao i rekao: "Samo napred."
16:05
So here is my wish:
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I evo moje želje:
16:08
that you will help us
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da ćete nam pomoći
16:11
take everything we've learned
through StoryCorps
through StoryCorps
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da uzmemo sve što smo naučili
kroz Storikorps
kroz Storikorps
16:14
and bring it to the world
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i donesemo to svetu
16:16
so that anyone anywhere
can easily record a meaningful interview
can easily record a meaningful interview
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tako da bilo ko bilo gde
može lako snimiti značajan intervju
može lako snimiti značajan intervju
16:20
with another human being
which will then be archived for history.
which will then be archived for history.
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sa drugom osobom
koji će zatim biti arhiviran za istoriju.
koji će zatim biti arhiviran za istoriju.
16:25
How are we going to do that? With this.
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Kako ćemo to učiniti? Ovim.
16:30
We're fast moving into a future
where everyone in the world
where everyone in the world
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Ubrzano se krećemo ka budućnosti
u kojoj će svi na svetu
u kojoj će svi na svetu
16:34
will have access to one of these,
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imati pristup ovome,
16:36
and it has powers I never
could have imagined 11 years ago
could have imagined 11 years ago
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a to ima moći koje ja nikad nisam mogao
ni da zamislim pre 11 godina
ni da zamislim pre 11 godina
16:39
when I started StoryCorps.
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kada sam osnovao Storikorps.
16:41
It has a microphone,
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Ima mikrofon,
16:43
it can tell you how to do things,
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može da vam kaže
kako da obavite neke stvari,
kako da obavite neke stvari,
16:45
and it can send audio files.
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može da šalje audio fajlove.
16:48
Those are the key ingredients.
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To su ključni sastojci.
16:50
So the first part of the wish
is already underway.
is already underway.
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Dakle prvi deo želje je već u toku.
16:53
Over the past couple of months,
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Tokom proteklih par meseci,
16:55
the team at StoryCorps
has been working furiously
has been working furiously
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tim Storikorpsa užurbano radi
16:58
to create an app that will bring
StoryCorps out of our booths
StoryCorps out of our booths
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na stvaranju aplikacije
koja će izneti Storikorps iz naših kabina
koja će izneti Storikorps iz naših kabina
17:01
so that it can be experienced
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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tako da ga može doživeti
bilo ko, bilo gde, bilo kada.
bilo ko, bilo gde, bilo kada.
17:07
Remember, StoryCorps has always
been two people and a facilitator
been two people and a facilitator
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Setite se, Storikorps je uvek bio
između dvoje ljudi i facilitatora
između dvoje ljudi i facilitatora
17:10
helping them record their conversation,
which is preserved forever,
which is preserved forever,
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koji im pomaže da snime razgovor,
koji je sačuvan zauvek,
koji je sačuvan zauvek,
17:14
but at this very moment,
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ali u ovom trenutku,
17:16
we're releasing a public beta version
of the StoryCorps app.
of the StoryCorps app.
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puštamo javnu beta verziju
Storikorps aplikacije.
Storikorps aplikacije.
17:20
The app is a digital facilitator
that walks you through
that walks you through
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Aplikacija je digitalni facilitator
koji vas vodi
koji vas vodi
17:23
the StoryCorps interview process,
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kroz Storikorps proces intervjuisanja,
17:26
helps you pick questions,
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pomaže vam da odaberete pitanja,
17:27
and gives you all the tips you need
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daje vam sve savete koji su vam potrebni
17:29
to record a meaningful
StoryCorps interview,
StoryCorps interview,
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da snimite značajan Storikorps intervju,
17:32
and then with one tap upload it
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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i zatim ga jednim dodirom pošaljete
našoj arhivi u Kongresnoj biblioteci.
našoj arhivi u Kongresnoj biblioteci.
17:38
That's the easy part, the technology.
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To je lak deo, tehnologija.
17:41
The real challenge is up to you:
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Pravi izazov je na vama:
17:43
to take this tool and figure out
how we can use it
how we can use it
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da uzmete ovu alatku
i otkrijete kako je možemo upotrebiti
i otkrijete kako je možemo upotrebiti
17:46
all across America and around the world,
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širom Amerike i širom sveta,
17:49
so that instead of recording
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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tako da umesto da snimamo
hiljade Storikorps intervjua godišnje,
hiljade Storikorps intervjua godišnje,
17:53
we could potentially record
tens of thousands
tens of thousands
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mogli bismo eventualno snimiti
desetine hiljada
desetine hiljada
17:56
or hundreds of thousands
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ili stotine hiljada
17:58
or maybe even more.
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ili možda čak i više.
18:01
Imagine, for example,
a national homework assignment
a national homework assignment
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Zamislite, na primer,
nacionalni domaći zadatak
nacionalni domaći zadatak
18:05
where every high school student
studying U.S. history across the country
studying U.S. history across the country
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u kome bi svaki srednjoškolac širom zemlje
koji izučava istoriju SAD-a
koji izučava istoriju SAD-a
18:09
records an interview
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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snimio intervju sa starijom osobom
na Dan zahvalnosti,
na Dan zahvalnosti,
18:11
so that in one single weekend
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tako da bi za samo jedan vikend
18:14
an entire generation of American lives
and experiences are captured.
and experiences are captured.
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bila zabeležena čitava generacija
američkih života i iskustava.
američkih života i iskustava.
18:19
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
18:27
Or imagine mothers on opposite
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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Ili zamislite majke na suprotstavljenim
stranama konflikta negde na svetu
stranama konflikta negde na svetu
18:31
sitting down not to talk
about that conflict
about that conflict
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kako sede, ne da bi pričale o tom kofliktu
18:34
but to find out who they are as people,
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već da bi otkrile ko su one kao ljudi,
18:37
and in doing so,
begin to build bonds of trust;
begin to build bonds of trust;
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i time počele da grade veze poverenja;
18:41
or that someday it becomes
a tradition all over the world
a tradition all over the world
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ili da jednog dana
postane tradicija širom sveta
postane tradicija širom sveta
18:44
that people are honored
with a StoryCorps interview
with a StoryCorps interview
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da ljudima bude iskazana počast
Storikorps intervjuom
Storikorps intervjuom
18:46
on their 75th birthday;
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na njihov 75. rođendan;
18:48
or that people in your community
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ili da ljudi u vašoj zajednici
18:51
go into retirement homes or hospitals
or homeless shelters or even prisons
or homeless shelters or even prisons
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odlaze u staračke domove ili bolnice
ili skloništa beskućnika ili čak zatvore
ili skloništa beskućnika ili čak zatvore
naoružani ovom aplikacijom
da odaju priznanje ljudima
da odaju priznanje ljudima
18:56
armed with this app to honor the people
least heard in our society
least heard in our society
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koji su se najmanje čuli u ovom društvu
i pitaju ih ko su oni,
i pitaju ih ko su oni,
18:59
and ask them who they are,
what they've learned in life,
what they've learned in life,
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šta su naučili u životu,
i kako žele da budu upamćeni.
i kako žele da budu upamćeni.
19:02
and how they want to be remembered.
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19:05
(Applause)
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19:12
Ten years ago, I recorded
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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Pre deset godina, snimio sam
Storikorps intervju sa svojim tatom
Storikorps intervju sa svojim tatom
19:16
who was a psychiatrist,
and became a well-known gay activist.
and became a well-known gay activist.
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koji je bio psihijatar
i postao poznati gej aktivista.
i postao poznati gej aktivista.
19:21
This is the picture
of us at that interview.
of us at that interview.
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Ovo je naša slika na tom intervjuu.
19:24
I never thought about that recording
until a couple of years ago,
until a couple of years ago,
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Nikada nisam razmišljao o tom snimku
do pre nekoliko godina,
do pre nekoliko godina,
19:27
when my dad, who seemed
to be in perfect health
to be in perfect health
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kada je mom tati, koji je izgledao
kao da je savršenog zdravlja
kao da je savršenog zdravlja
19:30
and was still seeing patients
40 hours a week,
40 hours a week,
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i još uvek je viđao pacijente
40 sati nedeljno,
40 sati nedeljno,
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was diagnosed with cancer.
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dijagnostikovan rak.
19:35
He passed away very suddenly
a few days later.
a few days later.
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Preminuo je vrlo iznenadno
nekoliko dana kasnije.
nekoliko dana kasnije.
19:39
It was June 28, 2012,
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Bio je 28 jun 2012. godine,
19:41
the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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godišnjica Stounvolske pobune.
19:46
I listened to that interview
for the first time at three in the morning
for the first time at three in the morning
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Slušao sam taj intervju
prvi put u tri ujutru
prvi put u tri ujutru
19:49
on the day that he died.
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dana kada je umro.
19:51
I have a couple of young kids at home,
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Imam par dece kod kuće,
19:53
and I knew that the only way
they were going to get to know this person
they were going to get to know this person
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i znao sam da će jedini način
na koji će oni upoznati ovu osobu,
na koji će oni upoznati ovu osobu,
19:56
who was such a towering figure in my life
would be through that session.
would be through that session.
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koja je bila tako istaknuta figura
u mom životu, biti kroz ovu sesiju.
u mom životu, biti kroz ovu sesiju.
20:01
I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
any more deeply than I did,
any more deeply than I did,
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Mislio sam da ne mogu da verujem
u Storikorps dublje nego što jesam,
u Storikorps dublje nego što jesam,
20:05
but it was at that moment
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ali u tom trenutku
20:06
that I fully and viscerally grasped
the importance of making these recordings.
the importance of making these recordings.
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sam potpuno i celim telom pojmio
značaj pravljenja ovih snimaka.
značaj pravljenja ovih snimaka.
20:11
Every day, people come up to me
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Svakoga dana, ljudi mi prilaze
20:13
and say, "I wish I had interviewed
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
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i govore: "Voleo bih da sam intervjuisao
svog oca ili baku ili brata,
svog oca ili baku ili brata,
20:18
but I waited too long."
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ali sam čekao predugo.
20:20
Now, no one has to wait anymore.
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Niko više ne mora da čeka.
20:22
At this moment,
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U ovom trenutku,
20:24
when so much of how we communicate
is fleeting and inconsequential,
is fleeting and inconsequential,
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kada je toliko toga u načinu
naše komunikacije prolazno i nevažno,
naše komunikacije prolazno i nevažno,
20:27
join us in creating this digital archive
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pridružite nam se u stvaranju
ovog digitalnog arhiva
ovog digitalnog arhiva
20:30
of conversations that are
enduring and important.
enduring and important.
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razgovora koji su trajni i važni.
20:34
Help us create this gift to our children,
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Pomozite nam da napravimo ovaj poklon
za našu decu,
za našu decu,
20:37
this testament to who
we are as human beings.
we are as human beings.
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ovo svedočanstvo onoga što jesmo
kao ljudska bića.
kao ljudska bića.
20:41
I hope you'll help us make
this wish come true.
this wish come true.
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Nadam se da ćete nam pomoći
da ostvarimo ovu želju.
da ostvarimo ovu želju.
20:45
Interview a family member, a friend
or even a stranger.
or even a stranger.
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Intervjuišite člana porodice,
prijatelja ili čak i nekog nepoznatog.
prijatelja ili čak i nekog nepoznatog.
20:49
Together, we can create an archive
of the wisdom of humanity,
of the wisdom of humanity,
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Zajedno možemo stvoriti
arhiv mudrosti čovečanstva,
arhiv mudrosti čovečanstva,
20:56
and maybe in doing so,
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i možda ćemo time
20:57
we'll learn to listen a little more
and shout a little less.
and shout a little less.
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naučiti da malo više slušamo,
a malo manje vičemo.
a malo manje vičemo.
21:01
Maybe these conversations will remind us
what's really important.
what's really important.
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Možda će nas ovi razgovori podsetiti
na to šta je zaista važno.
na to šta je zaista važno.
21:06
And maybe, just maybe,
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I možda, samo možda,
21:08
it will help us recognize
that simple truth
that simple truth
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će nam pomoći da prepoznamo
tu jednostavnu istinu
tu jednostavnu istinu
21:11
that every life, every single life,
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da svaki život, svi do jednog,
21:15
matters equally and infinitely.
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znače podjednako i beskrajno.
21:18
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam mnogo.
21:20
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
21:22
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala.
21:27
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
21:29
Thank you.
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Hvala.
21:31
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dave Isay - Story collectorOver thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all.
Why you should listen
From the first interview he recorded, 2015 TED Prize winner and MacArthur Fellow Dave Isay knew he’d found his calling: preserving the stories of everyday Americans. Since then, Isay has amassed hundreds of thousands of recordings, most of previously unheard or ignored voices, all speaking in their own words. The archives of StoryCorps -- which Isay founded in 2003 -- are included at the Library of Congress’ American Folklife Center, and now constitute the largest single collection of recorded voices in history.
StoryCorps invites friends, loved ones and strangers to conduct 40-minute interviews at intimate recording booths in Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, and (until 2011) New York, as well as in mobile studios nationwide. Offering moving and surprising glimpses into the hearts of often marginalized and forgotten subjects, the interviews are a familiar feature of NPR’s Morning Edition and Storycorps.org.
At TED2015, Isay shared an audacious wish for StoryCorps: to open up the format from its signature booths with a StoryCorps app that allows anyone to add to this "digital archive of the collective wisdom of humanity." The vision: to broaden this idea, and begin to take it global.
Dave Isay | Speaker | TED.com