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Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
Svi oko tebe imaju priču koju svijet mora ćuti
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Dave Isay je otvorio prvu StoryCorps govornicu u Grand Central Terminalu u New Yorku 2003. godine s namjerom da stvori tiho mjesto gdje osoba može dati počast nekome tko im je bio važan u životu slušajući njihovu priču. Od tada, StoryCorps se razvio u najveću kolekciju ljudskih glasova ikada snimljenih. Njegova želja za TED Nagradu: da izgradi digitalnu arhivu kolektivne mudrosti čovječanstva. Poslušajte njegovu viziju da napravi StoryCorps globalnim -- i kako možete biti dio toga razgovarajući s nekim sa StoryCorps aplikacijom
Dave Isay - Story collector
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
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Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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Večeras ću vam pokušati dokazati
00:15
that inviting a loved one, a friend
or even a stranger
or even a stranger
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da pozivanje voljene osobe,
prijatelja ili čak stranca
prijatelja ili čak stranca
00:19
to record a meaningful interview with you
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na snimanje značajnog razgovora sa vama
00:22
just might turn out to be one of the most
important moments in that person's life,
important moments in that person's life,
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može postati jedan od najvažnijih
trenutaka u životu te osobe,
trenutaka u životu te osobe,
00:26
and in yours.
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ali i u vašem.
00:29
When I was 22 years old,
I was lucky enough to find my calling
I was lucky enough to find my calling
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Kada sam imao 22 godine,
srećom sam pronašao svoje zvanje
srećom sam pronašao svoje zvanje
00:32
when I fell into making radio stories.
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kada sam se zaljubio
u izradu priča za radio.
u izradu priča za radio.
00:35
At almost the exact same time,
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U skoro istom vremenu
00:37
I found out that my dad,
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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sam saznao da je moj otac,
s kojim sam bio iznimno blizak, bio gay.
s kojim sam bio iznimno blizak, bio gay.
00:42
I was taken completely by surprise.
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Bio sam potpuno iznenađen.
00:44
We were a very tight-knit family,
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Bili smo vrlo čvrsto povezana obitelj,
00:47
and I was crushed.
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a ja sam bio slomljen.
00:49
At some point, in one
of our strained conversations,
of our strained conversations,
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U nekom trenutku, vodili
smo primoran razgovor,
smo primoran razgovor,
00:52
my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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u kojem je spomenuo nerede u Stonewallu.
00:54
He told me that one night in 1969,
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Rekao mi je da su se jedne noći 1969.
00:58
a group of young black
and Latino drag queens
and Latino drag queens
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skupina mladih crnaca
i latinaca transvestita
i latinaca transvestita
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fought back against the police
at a gay bar in Manhattan
at a gay bar in Manhattan
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suprotstavili policiji u Manhattanu
u gay bircu
u gay bircu
01:04
called the Stonewall Inn,
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koji se zvao Stonewall Inn,
01:06
and how this sparked
the modern gay rights movement.
the modern gay rights movement.
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i kako je to izazvalo moderne pokrete
za prava gay populacije.
za prava gay populacije.
01:10
It was an amazing story,
and it piqued my interest.
and it piqued my interest.
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To je bila nevjerojatna priča
koja je pobudila moj interes.
koja je pobudila moj interes.
01:13
So I decided to pick up my tape
recorder and find out more.
recorder and find out more.
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Zato sam odlučio uzeti moj kasetofon
kako bi saznao više.
kako bi saznao više.
01:17
With the help of a young archivist
named Michael Shirker,
named Michael Shirker,
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Uz pomoć mladog arhivara
Michaela Shrikera,
Michaela Shrikera,
01:21
we tracked down all
of the people we could find
of the people we could find
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ušli smo u trag svim ljudima
koje smo mogli pronaći
koje smo mogli pronaći
01:24
who had been at
the Stonewall Inn that night.
the Stonewall Inn that night.
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koji su bili u gostionici Stonewall Inn
te noći.
te noći.
01:27
Recording these interviews,
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Snimajući te razgovore,
01:29
I saw how the microphone
gave me the license
gave me the license
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uvidio sam da mi je
mikrofon dao mogućnost
mikrofon dao mogućnost
01:32
to go places I otherwise
never would have gone
never would have gone
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da idem na mjesta gdje
inače ne bih nikada mogao
inače ne bih nikada mogao
01:34
and talk to people I might not
otherwise ever have spoken to.
otherwise ever have spoken to.
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i da razgovaram s ljudima s kojima
drugačije nikada ne bih mogao razgovarati.
drugačije nikada ne bih mogao razgovarati.
01:38
I had the privilege of getting to know
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Imao sam privilegiju upoznati
01:40
some of the most amazing,
fierce and courageous human beings
fierce and courageous human beings
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neke od najnevjerojatnijih,
žestokih i odvažnih ljudskih bića
žestokih i odvažnih ljudskih bića
01:44
I had ever met.
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koje sam ikada upoznao.
01:46
It was the first time
the story of Stonewall
the story of Stonewall
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To je bilo prvi put
da je priča o Stonewallu
da je priča o Stonewallu
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had been told to a national audience.
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ispričana slušateljima
iz cijele nacije.
iz cijele nacije.
01:50
I dedicated the program to my dad,
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Posvetio sam program
svojem ocu,
svojem ocu,
01:53
it changed my relationship with him,
and it changed my life.
and it changed my life.
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što je promijenilo moj odnos
s njim, ali i moj život.
s njim, ali i moj život.
02:00
Over the next 15 years,
I made many more radio documentaries,
I made many more radio documentaries,
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Kroz sljedećih 15 godina, vodio sam
još mnoge radio dokumentarce,
još mnoge radio dokumentarce,
02:03
working to shine a light on people
who are rarely heard from in the media.
who are rarely heard from in the media.
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radeći kako bi ljudima, koji su rijetko
u medijima, omogućio da izađu na vidjelo.
u medijima, omogućio da izađu na vidjelo.
02:07
Over and over again,
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Opet i opet sam
02:09
I'd see how this simple act
of being interviewed
of being interviewed
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vidio kako mala stvar,
kao što je biti intervjuiran,
kao što je biti intervjuiran,
02:11
could mean so much to people,
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može toliko puno značiti ljudima,
02:14
particularly those who had been told
that their stories didn't matter.
that their stories didn't matter.
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pogotovo onima kojima je rečeno
da njihove priče nisu važne.
da njihove priče nisu važne.
02:17
I could literally see
people's back straighten
people's back straighten
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Doslovno sam vidio ljude kako
se ispravljaju
se ispravljaju
02:20
as they started to speak
into the microphone.
into the microphone.
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kad su počeli pričati na mikrofon.
02:22
In 1998, I made a documentary
about the last flophouse hotels
about the last flophouse hotels
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1998. godine, napravio sam dokumentarac
o zadnjem jeftinom hotelu
o zadnjem jeftinom hotelu
02:27
on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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u općini Bowery u Manhattanu.
02:29
Guys stayed up in these
cheap hotels for decades.
cheap hotels for decades.
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Ti su ljudi živjeli desetljećima
u tim jeftinim hotelima.
u tim jeftinim hotelima.
02:32
They lived in cubicles
the size of prison cells
the size of prison cells
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Živjeli su u odjelcima
veličine zatvorskih ćelija
veličine zatvorskih ćelija
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covered with chicken wire
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prekrivene mrežama žice
02:36
so you couldn't jump
from one room into the next.
from one room into the next.
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koje su ih sprječavale
da skoče iz jedne u drugu sobu.
da skoče iz jedne u drugu sobu.
02:39
Later, I wrote a book on the men
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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Kasnije sam napisao knjigu o tim ljudima
zajedno s fotografom Harvey Wangom.
zajedno s fotografom Harvey Wangom.
02:43
I remember walking into a flophouse
with an early version of the book
with an early version of the book
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Sjećam se ulaska u jedan od jeftinih
hotela s ranijom verzijom te knjige
hotela s ranijom verzijom te knjige
02:47
and showing one of the guys his page.
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pokazujući jednom od momaka
stranicu posvećenu njemu.
stranicu posvećenu njemu.
02:50
He stood there staring at it in silence,
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Stajao je, gledajući stranicu, u tišini,
02:52
then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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te je oteo knjigu iz mojih ruku
02:54
and started running down
the long, narrow hallway
the long, narrow hallway
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i počeo trčati kroz dugi, uski hodnik
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holding it over his head
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držeći knjigu nad glavom
02:59
shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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vičući "Ja postojim! Ja postojim."
03:04
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
03:08
In many ways, "I exist" became
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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Na puno je načina izraz "Ja postojim"
postao poziv na djelovanje StoryCorpsa,
postao poziv na djelovanje StoryCorpsa,
03:12
this crazy idea that I had
a dozen years ago.
a dozen years ago.
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ta luda ideja koju sam imao
prije desetak godina.
prije desetak godina.
03:16
The thought was to take
documentary work
documentary work
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Zamisao je bila da uzmemo
dokumentarni rad
dokumentarni rad
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and turn it on its head.
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i da ga okrenemo naglavačke.
03:20
Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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Tradicionalno, dokumentarno emitiranje
03:22
has been about recording interviews
to create a work of art or entertainment
to create a work of art or entertainment
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je bilo oko snimanja razgovora kako bi se
stvorio rad umjetnosti ili zabave
stvorio rad umjetnosti ili zabave
03:26
or education that is seen or heard
by a whole lot of people,
by a whole lot of people,
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ili obrazovanja koje gledaju
i slušaju velika skupina ljudi,
i slušaju velika skupina ljudi,
03:30
but I wanted to try something
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ali htio sam pokušati nešto
03:32
where the interview itself
was the purpose of this work,
was the purpose of this work,
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gdje je sam razgovor svrha tog rada,
03:35
and see if we could give many,
many, many people the chance
many, many people the chance
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kako bih vidio da li možemo
dati mnogim ljudima priliku
dati mnogim ljudima priliku
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to be listened to in this way.
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da ih se sluša na taj način.
03:41
So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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Tako smo u Grand Central Terminalu
prije 11 godina,
prije 11 godina,
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we built a booth where anyone
can come to honor someone else
can come to honor someone else
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izgradili govornicu gdje bilo tko
može doći i dati počast nekom drugom
može doći i dati počast nekom drugom
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by interviewing them about their life.
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vodeći s njima razgovor o njihovom životu.
03:51
You come to this booth and you're met
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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Dođeš do govornice, i naiđeš
na voditelja koji te dovede unutra.
na voditelja koji te dovede unutra.
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You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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I sjedneš nasuprot, na primjer, svog djeda
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for close to an hour
and you listen and you talk.
and you listen and you talk.
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skoro sat vremena, te slušate i pričate.
04:00
Many people think of it as,
if this was to be our last conversation,
if this was to be our last conversation,
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Puno ljudi razmišlja, kada bi ovo
bio moj zadnji razgovor s tom osobom,
bio moj zadnji razgovor s tom osobom,
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what would I want to ask of
and say to this person
and say to this person
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što bih htio pitati i o čemu bih
htio pričati s tom osobom
htio pričati s tom osobom
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who means so much to me?
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koja mi toliko puno znači.
04:09
At the end of the session,
you walk away with a copy of the interview
you walk away with a copy of the interview
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Na kraju razgovora, odlaziš
s kopijom tog razgovora,
s kopijom tog razgovora,
04:13
and another copy goes
to the American Folklife Center
to the American Folklife Center
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a druga kopija ide
American Folklife Center-u
American Folklife Center-u
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at the Library of Congress
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u Kongresnoj Knjižnici
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so that your great-great-great-grandkids
can someday get to know your grandfather
can someday get to know your grandfather
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tako da vaši pra-pra-pra-unuci
mogu jednog dana upoznati vašeg djeda
mogu jednog dana upoznati vašeg djeda
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through his voice and story.
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kroz njegov glas i priču.
04:25
So we open this booth
in one of the busiest places in the world
in one of the busiest places in the world
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I tako otvorimo tu govornicu u jednom
od najprometnijih mjesta na svijetu
od najprometnijih mjesta na svijetu
04:28
and invite people to have this
incredibly intimate conversation
incredibly intimate conversation
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i pozivamo ljude da vode ovaj
nevjerojatno intiman razgovor
nevjerojatno intiman razgovor
04:32
with another human being.
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sa drugim ljudskim bićem.
04:33
I had no idea if it would work,
but from the very beginning, it did.
but from the very beginning, it did.
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Nisam imao pojma da li će uspjeti,
ali od samog početka, ipak jest.
ali od samog početka, ipak jest.
04:38
People treated the experience
with incredible respect,
with incredible respect,
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Ljudi su se odnosili prema doživljaju
s nevjerojatnim poštovanjem,
s nevjerojatnim poštovanjem,
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and amazing conversations happened inside.
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i zapanjujući razgovori
su se odvijali unutra.
su se odvijali unutra.
04:44
I want to play just one animated excerpt
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Želim pustiti samo jedan animirani isječak
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from an interview recorded
at that original Grand Central Booth.
at that original Grand Central Booth.
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iz jednog razgovora snimljenog
u izvornom Grand Central Boothu.
u izvornom Grand Central Boothu.
04:50
This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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Ovo je 12-godišnji Joshua Littman
koji intervjuira svoju majku, Sarah.
koji intervjuira svoju majku, Sarah.
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Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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Josh ima aspergerov sindrom.
04:57
As you may know, kids with Asperger's
are incredibly smart
are incredibly smart
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Kao što već znate, djeca sa aspergerom
su nevjerojatno pametna
su nevjerojatno pametna
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but have a tough time socially.
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ali im je teško u društvu.
05:02
They usually have obsessions.
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Obično imaju opsesije.
05:04
In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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Josh je imao opsesiju za životinjama,
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so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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a ovo je Josh koji razgovara
sa svojom mamom Sarah
sa svojom mamom Sarah
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at Grand Central nine years ago.
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u Grand Centralu prije 9 godina.
05:12
(Video) Josh Littman:
From a scale of one to 10,
From a scale of one to 10,
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(Video) Josh Littman:
Na ljestvici od jedan do 10,
Na ljestvici od jedan do 10,
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do you think your life would be
different without animals?
different without animals?
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da li misliš da bi tvoj život
bio drugađiji bez životnija?
bio drugađiji bez životnija?
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Sarah Littman: I think it would be
an eight without animals,
an eight without animals,
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Sarah Littman: Mislim da bi bilo 8
bez životinja
bez životinja
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because they add so much pleasure to life.
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zato što daju toliko zadovoljstva u životu.
05:22
JL: How else do you think your life
would be different without them?
would be different without them?
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JL: Kako bi ti još život bio
drugačiji bez njih?
drugačiji bez njih?
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SL: I could do without things
like cockroaches and snakes.
like cockroaches and snakes.
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SL: Mogla bih živjeti bez
žohara i zmija.
žohara i zmija.
05:28
JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
as long as they're not venomous
as long as they're not venomous
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JL: Pa, ja se mogu nositi sa zmijama
sve dok nisu otrovne
sve dok nisu otrovne
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or constrict you or anything.
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i dok te ne stišću ili nešto takvo.
05:32
SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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SL: Da, ja nisam baš osoba za zmije --
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JL: But cockroach is just
the insect we love to hate.
the insect we love to hate.
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JL: Ali žohari su insekti
koje volimo mrziti.
koje volimo mrziti.
05:37
SL: Yeah, it really is.
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SL: Da, stvarno jesu.
05:38
JL: Have you ever thought
you couldn't cope with having a child?
you couldn't cope with having a child?
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JL: Da li si ikada mislila
da se ne bi mogla nositi s djecom?
da se ne bi mogla nositi s djecom?
05:41
SL: I remember when you were a baby,
you had really bad colic,
you had really bad colic,
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SL: Sjećam se dok si još bio beba,
imao si jake grčeve u želucu,
imao si jake grčeve u želucu,
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so you would just cry and cry.
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i zato bi samo plakao i plakao.
05:46
JL: What's colic?
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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JL: Što su to grčevi u želucu?
SL: To je kada dobiješ tu bol u želucu
SL: To je kada dobiješ tu bol u želucu
05:50
and all you do is scream
for, like, four hours.
for, like, four hours.
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i stalno se dereš,
i to, na primjer, 4 sata.
i to, na primjer, 4 sata.
05:52
JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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JL: Čak glasnije od Amy?
05:54
SL: You were pretty loud,
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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SL: Bio si dosta glasan,
ali Amyin je bio više piskutav.
ali Amyin je bio više piskutav.
05:57
JL: I think it feels like everyone
seems to like Amy more,
seems to like Amy more,
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JL: Čini se da svi nekako
više vole Amy,
više vole Amy,
06:01
like she's the perfect little angel.
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kao da je savršeni mali anđeo.
06:03
SL: Well, I can understand
why you think that people like Amy more,
why you think that people like Amy more,
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SL: Pa, mogu razumijeti zašto
misliš da ljudi više vole Amy,
misliš da ljudi više vole Amy,
06:07
and I'm not saying it's because
of your Asperger's syndrome,
of your Asperger's syndrome,
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i ne kažem da je to
zbog tvog aspergerovog sindroma,
zbog tvog aspergerovog sindroma,
06:10
but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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već Amy lakše bude
prijateljski nastrojena,
prijateljski nastrojena,
06:13
whereas I think for you
it's more difficult,
it's more difficult,
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dok mislim da je tebi to teže,
06:15
but the people who take the time
to get to know you love you so much.
to get to know you love you so much.
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ali ljudi koji se potrude da te
upoznaju te toliko puno vole.
upoznaju te toliko puno vole.
06:19
JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos?
SL: Yeah --
SL: Yeah --
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JL: Kao Ben ili Eric ili Carlos?
SL: Da --
SL: Da --
06:22
JL: Like I have better quality friends
but less quantity? (Laughter)
but less quantity? (Laughter)
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JL: Kao da ja imam bolje
prijatelje, ali ih imam manje? (Smijeh)
prijatelje, ali ih imam manje? (Smijeh)
06:26
SL: I wouldn't judge
the quality, but I think --
the quality, but I think --
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SL: Ne bih sudila kvalitetu, ali mislim --
06:29
JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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JL: Mislim, prvo je bilo da Amy
voli Claudiu, pa ju onda mrzi,
voli Claudiu, pa ju onda mrzi,
06:32
she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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pa ju je opet volila, pa opet mrzila.
06:34
SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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SL: Dio toga je ženska stvar, dušo.
06:36
The important thing for you
is that you have a few very good friends,
is that you have a few very good friends,
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Važna stvar za tebe je da imaš
par jako dobrih prijatelja,
par jako dobrih prijatelja,
06:40
and really that's what you need in life.
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i to je stvarno ono što trebaš u životu.
06:42
JL: Did I turn out to be the son
you wanted when I was born?
you wanted when I was born?
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JL: Jesam li postao sin kakvog
si htjela kada sam se rodio?
si htjela kada sam se rodio?
06:46
Did I meet your expectations?
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Jesam li zadovoljio tvoja očekivanja?
06:49
SL: You've exceeded
my expectations, sweetie,
my expectations, sweetie,
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SL: Ti si premašio moja očekivanja, dragi,
06:52
because, sure, you have these fantasies
of what your child's going to be like,
of what your child's going to be like,
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jer, da, imaš te maštarije
o tome kakvo će ti dijete biti,
o tome kakvo će ti dijete biti,
06:56
but you have made me grow
so much as a parent, because you think --
so much as a parent, because you think --
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ali zbog tebe sam toliko odrasla
kao roditelj, zato jer razmišljaš --
kao roditelj, zato jer razmišljaš --
07:00
JL: Well, I was the one
who made you a parent.
who made you a parent.
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JL: Pa, ja sam bio taj
zbog kojeg si postala roditelj.
zbog kojeg si postala roditelj.
07:02
SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
That's a good point. (Laughter)
That's a good point. (Laughter)
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SL: Ti si taj zbog kojeg sam
postala roditelj. Dobro rečeno. (Smijeh)
postala roditelj. Dobro rečeno. (Smijeh)
07:06
But also because you think differently
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Ali i zato što razmišljaš drugačije
07:08
from what they tell you
in the parenting books,
in the parenting books,
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od onoga što ti kažu
u roditeljskim knjigama,
u roditeljskim knjigama,
07:11
I really had to learn to think
outside of the box with you,
outside of the box with you,
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stvarno sam morala naučiti
razmišljati izvan okvira s tobom,
razmišljati izvan okvira s tobom,
07:14
and it's made me much more creative
as a parent and as a person,
as a parent and as a person,
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i to me je napravilo puno kreativnijom
kao roditelja i kao osobu,
kao roditelja i kao osobu,
07:19
and I'll always thank you for that.
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i uvijek ću ti zahvaljivati za to.
07:21
JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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JL: I to je pomoglo kada je Amy rođena?
07:22
SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
but you are so incredibly special to me
but you are so incredibly special to me
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SL: I to je pomoglo kada je Amy rođena,
ali ti si mi tako nevjerojatno poseban
ali ti si mi tako nevjerojatno poseban
07:27
and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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I toliko sam sretna što te imam kao sina.
07:31
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
07:38
David Isay: After this story
ran on public radio,
ran on public radio,
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David Isay: Nakon što je ova priča
bila puštena na javni radio,
bila puštena na javni radio,
07:41
Josh received hundreds of letters
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Josh je primio stotine pisama
07:43
telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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koja su mu govorila koliko
je nevjerojatan dječak bio.
je nevjerojatan dječak bio.
07:45
His mom, Sarah, bound them
together in a book,
together in a book,
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Njegova mama, Sarah ih je
spojila u knjigu,
spojila u knjigu,
07:47
and when Josh got picked on at school,
they would read the letters together.
they would read the letters together.
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i kada su Josha zezali u školi,
zajedno bi čitali pisma.
zajedno bi čitali pisma.
07:51
I just want to acknowledge
that two of my heroes
that two of my heroes
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Samo želim naznačiti
da su moja dva junaka
da su moja dva junaka
07:53
are here with us tonight.
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ovdje s nama večeras.
07:55
Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
who is now an honors student in college.
who is now an honors student in college.
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Sarah Littman i njezin sin Josh,
koji je sada odličan student fakulteta.
koji je sada odličan student fakulteta.
08:00
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
08:03
You know, a lot of people talk about
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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Znate, puno ljudi priča o plakanju
kada ćuju StoryCorps priče,
kada ćuju StoryCorps priče,
08:07
and it's not because they're sad.
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i to ne zato što su žalosne.
08:09
Most of them aren't.
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Većina njih nije.
08:10
I think it's because you're hearing
something authentic and pure
something authentic and pure
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Mislim da je to zbog toga
što slušaju nešto autentično i čisto
što slušaju nešto autentično i čisto
08:14
at this moment,
when sometimes it's hard to tell
when sometimes it's hard to tell
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u ovom vremenu, kada je teško reći
08:16
what's real and what's an advertisement.
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što je stvarno, a što je reklama.
08:19
It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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To je nešto kao protu-reality TV.
08:21
Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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Nitko ne dolazi u StoryCrops
da bi se obogatio.
da bi se obogatio.
08:23
Nobody comes to get famous.
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Nitko ne dolazi da bi se proslavio.
08:25
It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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To je jednostavno čin
dobroćudnosti i ljubavi.
dobroćudnosti i ljubavi.
08:28
So many of these are just everyday people
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Toliko njih su svakodnevni ljudi
08:31
talking about lives lived with kindness,
courage, decency and dignity,
courage, decency and dignity,
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koji pričaju o životima ljubaznosti,
hrabrosti, poštenja i dostojanstva,
hrabrosti, poštenja i dostojanstva,
08:36
and when you hear that kind of story,
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i kada čujete takvu priču,
08:38
it can sometimes feel
like you're walking on holy ground.
like you're walking on holy ground.
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nekada se počnete osjećati
kao da hodate po svetoj zemlji.
kao da hodate po svetoj zemlji.
08:42
So this experiment
in Grand Central worked,
in Grand Central worked,
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Zato je ovaj eksperiment u
Grand Centralu uspjeo,
Grand Centralu uspjeo,
08:45
and we expanded across the country.
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i proširili smo se po državi.
08:47
Today, more than 100,000 people
in all 50 states
in all 50 states
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Danas, više od 100,000 ljudi
u svih 50 država
u svih 50 država
08:50
in thousands of cities
and towns across America
and towns across America
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u tisućama gradova i mjesta diljem Amerike
08:53
have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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je snimilo StoryCorps razgovore.
08:56
It's now the largest single collection
of human voices ever gathered.
of human voices ever gathered.
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Sada je to najveća kolekcija
ljudskih glasova ikada sakupljena.
ljudskih glasova ikada sakupljena.
09:00
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
09:06
We've hired and trained
hundreds of facilitators
hundreds of facilitators
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Zaposlili smo i trenirali
stotine voditelja
stotine voditelja
09:09
to help guide people
through the experience.
through the experience.
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da pomognu voditi ljude
kroz to iskustvo.
kroz to iskustvo.
09:11
Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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Većina služi StoryCorpsu godinu ili dvije
09:14
traveling the country,
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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putujući kroz zemlju,
skupljajući mudrost čovječanstva.
skupljajući mudrost čovječanstva.
09:17
They call it bearing witness,
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Oni to zovu prisustvovanje svjedočanstvu,
09:19
and if you ask them,
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i ako ih pitate,
09:21
all of the facilitators will tell you
that the most important thing
that the most important thing
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svi voditelji će vam reći
da je najvažnija stvar
da je najvažnija stvar
09:24
they've learned from being present
during these interviews
during these interviews
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koju su naučili prisustvovanjem
tijekom tih razgovora
tijekom tih razgovora
09:27
is that people are basically good.
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je da su ljudi u pravilu dobri.
09:30
And I think for the first years
of StoryCorps, you could argue
of StoryCorps, you could argue
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I mislim da ste mogli za prve godine
StoryCorpsa argumentirati
StoryCorpsa argumentirati
09:33
that there was some kind
of a selection bias happening,
of a selection bias happening,
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da se događalo nekakvo
pristrano biranje,
pristrano biranje,
09:36
but after tens of thousands of interviews
with every kind of person
with every kind of person
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ali nakon desetak tisuća razgovora
sa svakom vrstom osobe
sa svakom vrstom osobe
09:39
in every part of the country --
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u svakom dijelu zemlje --
09:41
rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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bogati, siromašni, od pet do 105 godina,
09:44
80 different languages,
across the political spectrum --
across the political spectrum --
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80 različitih jezika,
kroz politički spektar --
kroz politički spektar --
09:49
you have to think that maybe these guys
are actually onto something.
are actually onto something.
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morate misliti da su možda
ovi ljudi zapravo na tragu nečega.
ovi ljudi zapravo na tragu nečega.
09:53
I've also learned so much
from these interviews.
from these interviews.
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I ja sam naučio jako puno
iz tih razgovora.
iz tih razgovora.
09:56
I've learned about the poetry
and the wisdom and the grace
and the wisdom and the grace
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Naučio sam o poeziji
i mudrosti i naklonosti
i mudrosti i naklonosti
09:59
that can be found in the words
of people all around us
of people all around us
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koja se može pronaći u riječima
ljudi svuda oko nas
ljudi svuda oko nas
10:02
when we simply take the time to listen,
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kada jednostavno nađemo vremena slušati,
10:05
like this interview
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kao sljedeći razgovor
10:09
between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
named Danny Perasa
named Danny Perasa
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između službenika kladionice
u Brooklynu Danny Perasa
u Brooklynu Danny Perasa
10:12
who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
to talk about his love for her.
to talk about his love for her.
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koji je doveo ženu Annie u StoryCorps
na razgovor o ljubavi prema njoj.
na razgovor o ljubavi prema njoj.
10:18
(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
the thing of it is,
the thing of it is,
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(Zvuk) Danny Perasa: Vidiš,
stvar je u tome što
stvar je u tome što
10:20
I always feel guilty when I say
"I love you" to you.
"I love you" to you.
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se uvijek osjećam krivo
kada ti kažem "Volim te."
kada ti kažem "Volim te."
10:23
And I say it so often.
I say it to remind you
I say it to remind you
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I govorim ti to tako često.
Govorim ti to da bih te podsjetio
Govorim ti to da bih te podsjetio
10:26
that as dumpy as I am,
it's coming from me.
it's coming from me.
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da koliko god sam zdepast,
to dolazi od mene.
to dolazi od mene.
10:29
It's like hearing a beautiful song
from a busted old radio,
from a busted old radio,
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To je kao kad čuješ prekrasnu pjesmu
na starom strganom radiju,
na starom strganom radiju,
10:32
and it's nice of you to keep
the radio around the house.
the radio around the house.
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i lijepo je od tebe što
držiš taj radio oko kuće.
držiš taj radio oko kuće.
10:35
Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
on the kitchen table,
on the kitchen table,
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Annie Perasa: Ako nema bilješke
na kuhinjskom stolu,
na kuhinjskom stolu,
10:38
I think there's something wrong.
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mislim da nešto nije u redu.
10:39
You write a love letter
to me every morning.
to me every morning.
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Pišeš mi ljubavno pismo
svakoga jutra.
svakoga jutra.
10:41
DP: Well, the only thing
that could possibly be wrong
that could possibly be wrong
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DP: Pa, jedina stvar koja
može krenuti po krivu
može krenuti po krivu
10:44
is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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je da nisam mogao naći blesavu kemijsku.
10:45
AP: To my princess:
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AP: Mojoj princezi:
10:46
The weather outside today
is extremely rainy.
is extremely rainy.
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Danas je vani jako kišovito.
10:49
I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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Nazvat ću te u 11:20 ujutro.
10:51
DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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DP: To je romantična vremenska prognoza.
10:52
AP: And I love you.
I love you. I love you.
I love you. I love you.
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AP: I volim te. Volim te. Volim te.
10:55
DP: When a guy is happily married,
no matter what happens at work,
no matter what happens at work,
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DP: Kada je čovjek sretno oženjen,
bez obzira što se dogodi na poslu,
bez obzira što se dogodi na poslu,
10:58
no matter what happens
in the rest of the day,
in the rest of the day,
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bez obzira što se dogodi u ostatku dana,
11:00
there's a shelter when you get home,
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tu je skrovište kada dođeš doma,
11:02
there's a knowledge knowing
that you can hug somebody
that you can hug somebody
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tu je znanje da možeš nekoga zagrliti
11:05
without them throwing you downstairs
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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bez da te gurne niz stepenice
govoreći, "Makni ruke s mene."
govoreći, "Makni ruke s mene."
11:08
Being married is like having
a color television set.
a color television set.
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Biti oženjen je kao da imaš
televizor u boji.
televizor u boji.
11:11
You never want to go back
to black and white.
to black and white.
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Nikada se ne želiš vratiti na crno-bijelo.
11:13
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:16
DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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DI: Danny je bio visok oko 150cm
11:18
with crossed eyes
and one single snaggletooth,
and one single snaggletooth,
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s očima u križ i jednim ružnim zubom,
11:22
but Danny Perasa had
more romance in his little pinky
more romance in his little pinky
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ali Danny Perasa je imao
više romanse u svojem malom prstu
više romanse u svojem malom prstu
11:26
than all of Hollywood's
leading men put together.
leading men put together.
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nego svi vodeći ljudi
u Hollywoodu zajedno.
u Hollywoodu zajedno.
11:29
What else have I learned?
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Što sam još naučio?
11:31
I've learned about the almost
unimaginable capacity
unimaginable capacity
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Naučio sam o skoro
nezamislivom kapacitetu
nezamislivom kapacitetu
11:33
for the human spirit to forgive.
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ljudske duše da oprosti.
11:36
I've learned about resilience
and I've learned about strength.
and I've learned about strength.
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Naučio sam o otpornosti
i naučio sam o jačini.
i naučio sam o jačini.
11:39
Like an interview with Oshea Israel
and Mary Johnson.
and Mary Johnson.
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Kao na razgovoru između Oshea Isrela
i Mary Johnson.
i Mary Johnson.
11:43
When Oshea was a teenager,
he murdered Mary's only son,
he murdered Mary's only son,
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Kada je Oshea bio tinejđer,
ubio je Marynog jedinog sina,
ubio je Marynog jedinog sina,
11:47
Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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Laramiun Byrda, u borbi banda.
11:50
A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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Desetak godina kasnije,
Mary je otišla u zatvor
Mary je otišla u zatvor
11:52
to meet Oshea and find out
who this person was
who this person was
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kako bi se našla s Oshea
i saznala tko je ta osoba bila
i saznala tko je ta osoba bila
11:55
who had taken her son's life.
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koja je oduzela život njena sina.
11:58
Slowly and remarkably,
they became friends,
they became friends,
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Polako i izvanredno,
postali su prijatelji,
postali su prijatelji,
12:01
and when he was finally released
from the penitentiary,
from the penitentiary,
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i kada je konačno bio
pušten iz kaznenog zatvora,
pušten iz kaznenog zatvora,
12:03
Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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Oshea se zapravo doselio
u Maryno susjedstv0.
u Maryno susjedstv0.
12:07
This is just a short excerpt
of a conversation they had
of a conversation they had
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Ovo je samo kratki isječak
iz razgovora koji su imali
iz razgovora koji su imali
12:10
soon after Oshea was freed.
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ubrzo nakon što je Oshea pušten.
12:14
(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
is no longer here.
is no longer here.
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(Video) Mary Johnson: Moj rođeni sin
više nije ovdje.
više nije ovdje.
12:17
I didn't see him graduate,
and now you're going to college.
and now you're going to college.
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Nisam vidjela kako maturira,
a sada ćeš ti ići na fakultet.
a sada ćeš ti ići na fakultet.
12:20
I'll have the opportunity
to see you graduate.
to see you graduate.
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Imat ću priliku vidjeti te kako maturiraš.
12:24
I didn't see him get married.
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Nisam ga vidjela kako se ženi.
12:26
Hopefully one day, I'll be able
to experience that with you.
to experience that with you.
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Nadam se da ću jednog dana
to moći doživjeti s tobom.
to moći doživjeti s tobom.
12:30
Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
say those things and to be
say those things and to be
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Oshea Israel: Samo dok te čujem
da izgovaraš te stvari i da si
da izgovaraš te stvari i da si
12:33
in my life in the manner
in which you are is my motivation.
in which you are is my motivation.
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u mojem životu na taj način
je moja motivacija.
je moja motivacija.
12:36
It motivates me to make sure
that I stay on the right path.
that I stay on the right path.
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To me motivira da osiguram
da ostanem na pravom putu.
da ostanem na pravom putu.
12:41
You still believe in me,
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Još uvijek vjeruješ u mene,
12:43
and the fact that you can do it
despite how much pain I caused you,
despite how much pain I caused you,
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i činjenica da to možeš raditi
bez obzira na bol koju sam ti prouzročio,
bez obzira na bol koju sam ti prouzročio,
12:47
it's amazing.
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to je nevjerojatno.
12:49
MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
to be able to share our story together,
to be able to share our story together,
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MJ: Znam da nije lagano
dijeliti našu priču zajedno,
dijeliti našu priču zajedno,
12:55
even with us sitting here
looking at each other right now.
looking at each other right now.
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čak i dok sjedimo ovdje,
gledajući se.
gledajući se.
12:57
I know it's not an easy thing,
so I admire that you can do this.
so I admire that you can do this.
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Znam da nije lako,
i zato ti se divim što to možeš.
i zato ti se divim što to možeš.
13:03
OI: I love you, lady.
MJ: I love you too, son.
MJ: I love you too, son.
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OJ: Volim te, damo.
MJ: I ja tebe volim, sine.
MJ: I ja tebe volim, sine.
13:12
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:18
DI: And I've been reminded countless times
of the courage and goodness of people,
of the courage and goodness of people,
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DI: I bio sam podsjećan nebrojeno
puta na hrabrost i dobrotu ljudi,
puta na hrabrost i dobrotu ljudi,
13:23
and how the arc of history
truly does bend towards justice.
truly does bend towards justice.
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i kako se povijest stvarno
naklanja prema pravdi.
naklanja prema pravdi.
13:28
Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
who was born Arthur Martinez
who was born Arthur Martinez
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Kao u priči Alexis Martinez,
koja je rođena kao Arthur Martinez
koja je rođena kao Arthur Martinez
13:33
in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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u Harlod Ickes projektu u Chicagu.
13:35
In the interview, she talks
with her daughter Lesley
with her daughter Lesley
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U razgovoru, ona razgovara
sa svojom kćeri Lesley
sa svojom kćeri Lesley
13:38
about joining a gang as a young man,
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o pridruživanju bandi dok je bila mladić,
13:40
and later in life transitioning
into the woman she was always meant to be.
into the woman she was always meant to be.
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i kasnije u životu prelasku
u ženu kakva je oduvijek trebala biti.
u ženu kakva je oduvijek trebala biti.
13:45
This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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Ovo je Alexis i njezina kćer Lesley.
13:48
(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
difficult things for me was
difficult things for me was
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(Zvuk) Alexis Martinez: Jedna od
najtežih stvari za mene je bila
najtežih stvari za mene je bila
13:51
I was always afraid that
I wouldn't be allowed
I wouldn't be allowed
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to što sam se uvijek bojala
da neću imati dopuštenje
da neću imati dopuštenje
13:54
to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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biti u životima mojih unuka,
13:57
and you blew that completely
out of the water,
out of the water,
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i ti si to potpuno onemogućila,
13:59
you and your husband.
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ti i tvoj muž.
14:00
One of the fruits of that is,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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Jedan od plodova odnosa s mojom unukom,
14:04
they fight with each other sometimes
over whether I'm he or she.
over whether I'm he or she.
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je da se nekada svađaju oko toga
da li sam on ili ona.
da li sam on ili ona.
14:07
Lesley Martinez: But they're free
to talk about it.
to talk about it.
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Lesley Martinez: Ali su
slobodne govoriti o tome.
slobodne govoriti o tome.
14:10
AM: They're free to talk about it,
but that, to me, is a miracle.
but that, to me, is a miracle.
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AM: Slobodne su o tome govoriti,
ali to je, za mene, čudo.
ali to je, za mene, čudo.
14:13
LM: You don't have to apologize.
You don't have to tiptoe.
You don't have to tiptoe.
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LM: Ne moraš se ispričavati.
Ne moraš hodati na prstima.
Ne moraš hodati na prstima.
14:16
We're not going to cut you off,
and that's something I've always
and that's something I've always
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Nećemo te se odreći,
i to je nešto što sam oduvijek
i to je nešto što sam oduvijek
14:21
wanted you to just know,
that you're loved.
that you're loved.
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htjela znati, da si voljena.
14:24
AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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AM: Znaš, to živim svaki dan sada.
14:26
I walk down the streets as a woman,
and I really am at peace with who I am.
and I really am at peace with who I am.
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Hodam kroz ulice kao žena,
i stvarno sam u miru s time tko sam.
i stvarno sam u miru s time tko sam.
14:31
I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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Mislim, voljela bih možda
imati nježniji glas,
imati nježniji glas,
14:34
but now I walk in love
and I try to live that way every day.
and I try to live that way every day.
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ali sada hodam s ljubavlju
i htjela bih tako živjeti svaki dan.
i htjela bih tako živjeti svaki dan.
14:43
DI: Now I walk in love.
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DI: Sada hodam s ljubavlju.
14:46
I'm going to tell you
a secret about StoryCorps.
a secret about StoryCorps.
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Reći ću vam jednu tajnu StoryCorpsa.
14:49
It takes some courage
to have these conversations.
to have these conversations.
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Potrebno je nešto hrabrosti
za ovakve razgovore.
za ovakve razgovore.
14:53
StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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StoryCorps zagovara našu smrtnost.
14:55
Participants know this recording
will be heard long after they're gone.
will be heard long after they're gone.
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Sudionici znaju da će ta snimka
biti slušana dugo nakon ih više nema.
biti slušana dugo nakon ih više nema.
14:59
There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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Jedan doktor Ira Byock radi
u domu za nemoćne
u domu za nemoćne
15:02
who has worked closely with us
on recording interviews
on recording interviews
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te je radio blizu s nama
na snimanju razgovora
na snimanju razgovora
15:04
with people who are dying.
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s ljudima koji umiru.
15:06
He wrote a book called
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
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Napisao je knjigu
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
15:09
about the four things you want to say
to the most important people in your life
to the most important people in your life
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o četiri stvari koje želite reći
najvažnijim ljudima u svom životu
najvažnijim ljudima u svom životu
15:12
before they or you die:
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prije nego što oni ili vi umrete:
15:15
thank you, I love you,
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hvala ti, volim te,
15:18
forgive me, I forgive you.
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oprosti mi, opraštam ti.
15:21
They're just about the most powerful words
we can say to one another,
we can say to one another,
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To su skoro najmoćnije riječi
koje možemo reći jedan drugome,
koje možemo reći jedan drugome,
15:25
and often that's what happens
in a StoryCorps booth.
in a StoryCorps booth.
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i to je često ono što se i događa
u StoryCorps govornicama.
u StoryCorps govornicama.
15:28
It's a chance to have a sense of closure
with someone you care about --
with someone you care about --
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To je šansa da dobijete osjećaj
pomirbe sa nekim vama važnim --
pomirbe sa nekim vama važnim --
15:32
no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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bez sažaljenja, bez ičega neizrečenog.
15:34
And it's hard and it takes courage,
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I teško je i potrebna je hrabrost,
15:38
but that's why we're alive, right?
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ali to razlog zašto smo živi, zar ne?
15:43
So, the TED Prize.
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I, TED nagrada.
15:45
When I first heard from TED
and Chris a few months ago
and Chris a few months ago
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Kada sam prvi put ćuo od TED-a
i Chrisa prije par mjeseci
i Chrisa prije par mjeseci
15:48
about the possibility of the Prize,
I was completely floored.
I was completely floored.
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o mogućnosti za dobivanje Nagrade,
bio sam potpuno šokiran.
bio sam potpuno šokiran.
15:52
They asked me to come up
with a very brief wish for humanity,
with a very brief wish for humanity,
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Rekli su mi da istupim
sa kratkom željom za čovječanstvo,
sa kratkom željom za čovječanstvo,
15:56
no more than 50 words.
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ne više od 50 riječi.
15:57
So I thought about it,
I wrote my 50 words,
I wrote my 50 words,
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I razmišljao sam o tome,
napisao sam 50 riječi,
napisao sam 50 riječi,
16:00
and a few weeks later,
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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i par tjedana kasnije,
Chris je zvao i rekao, "Učini to."
Chris je zvao i rekao, "Učini to."
16:05
So here is my wish:
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I evo moje želje:
16:08
that you will help us
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da ćete nam pomoći
16:11
take everything we've learned
through StoryCorps
through StoryCorps
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uzeti sve što smo
naučili kroz StoryCorps
naučili kroz StoryCorps
16:14
and bring it to the world
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i predstaviti to svijetu
16:16
so that anyone anywhere
can easily record a meaningful interview
can easily record a meaningful interview
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tako da svatko svagdje može
lako snimiti značajan razgovor
lako snimiti značajan razgovor
16:20
with another human being
which will then be archived for history.
which will then be archived for history.
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s drugim ljudskim bićem
koji će onda biti arhiviran za povijest.
koji će onda biti arhiviran za povijest.
16:25
How are we going to do that? With this.
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Kako ćemo to napraviti? Sa ovim.
16:30
We're fast moving into a future
where everyone in the world
where everyone in the world
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Brzo idemo u budućnost
kada će svi u svijetu
kada će svi u svijetu
16:34
will have access to one of these,
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imati pristup jednom od ovih,
16:36
and it has powers I never
could have imagined 11 years ago
could have imagined 11 years ago
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koji ima moći koje nikada
nisam mogao zamisliti prije 11 godina
nisam mogao zamisliti prije 11 godina
16:39
when I started StoryCorps.
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kada sam započeo StoryCorps.
16:41
It has a microphone,
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Ima mikrofon,
16:43
it can tell you how to do things,
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može ti reći kako napraviti stvari,
16:45
and it can send audio files.
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i može slati zvučne datoteke.
16:48
Those are the key ingredients.
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To su ključni sastojci.
16:50
So the first part of the wish
is already underway.
is already underway.
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Tako je prvi dio želje već na putu.
16:53
Over the past couple of months,
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Prošlih par mjeseci,
16:55
the team at StoryCorps
has been working furiously
has been working furiously
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tim u StoryCorpsu
radio je mahnito
radio je mahnito
16:58
to create an app that will bring
StoryCorps out of our booths
StoryCorps out of our booths
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da napravi aplikaciju koja će
iznijeti StoryCorps izvan govornica
iznijeti StoryCorps izvan govornica
17:01
so that it can be experienced
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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tako da to može doživjeti
bilo tko, bilo gdje, bilo kada.
bilo tko, bilo gdje, bilo kada.
17:07
Remember, StoryCorps has always
been two people and a facilitator
been two people and a facilitator
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Zapamtite, StoryCorps je uvijek
bio između dvije osobe i voditelja
bio između dvije osobe i voditelja
17:10
helping them record their conversation,
which is preserved forever,
which is preserved forever,
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koji im pomaže da snime svoj razgovor,
koji je sačuvan zauvijek,
koji je sačuvan zauvijek,
17:14
but at this very moment,
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ali sada u ovom trenutku,
17:16
we're releasing a public beta version
of the StoryCorps app.
of the StoryCorps app.
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objavljujemo javnu oglednu inačicu
StoryCorps aplikacije.
StoryCorps aplikacije.
17:20
The app is a digital facilitator
that walks you through
that walks you through
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Ova aplikacija je digitalni voditelj
koji vas vodi kroz
koji vas vodi kroz
17:23
the StoryCorps interview process,
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StoryCorps razgovorni proces,
17:26
helps you pick questions,
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pomaže vam izabrati pitanja,
17:27
and gives you all the tips you need
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i daje vam savjete koji vam trebaju
17:29
to record a meaningful
StoryCorps interview,
StoryCorps interview,
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da snimite značajan StoryCorps razgovor,
17:32
and then with one tap upload it
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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i onda ga jednim dodirom učitate
u arhivu Knjižnice Kongresa.
u arhivu Knjižnice Kongresa.
17:38
That's the easy part, the technology.
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To je lagani dio, tehnologija.
17:41
The real challenge is up to you:
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Pravi izazov je na vama:
17:43
to take this tool and figure out
how we can use it
how we can use it
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da uzmete ovaj alat i shvatite
kako ga možemo koristiti
kako ga možemo koristiti
17:46
all across America and around the world,
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diljem Amerike i cijelog svijeta,
17:49
so that instead of recording
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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tako da umjesto da snimamo
tisuće StoryCorps razgovora na godinu,
tisuće StoryCorps razgovora na godinu,
17:53
we could potentially record
tens of thousands
tens of thousands
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možemo potencijalno snimit
desetke tisuća
desetke tisuća
17:56
or hundreds of thousands
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ili stotine tisuća
17:58
or maybe even more.
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ili možda čak više.
18:01
Imagine, for example,
a national homework assignment
a national homework assignment
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Zamislite, na primjer,
nacionalni domaći zadatak
nacionalni domaći zadatak
18:05
where every high school student
studying U.S. history across the country
studying U.S. history across the country
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gdje svaki učenik srednje škole
koji studira američku povijest kroz zemlju
koji studira američku povijest kroz zemlju
18:09
records an interview
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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snimi razgovor sa starijom osobom
preko Dana Zahvalnosti,
preko Dana Zahvalnosti,
18:11
so that in one single weekend
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tako da u jednom vikendu
18:14
an entire generation of American lives
and experiences are captured.
and experiences are captured.
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cijela generacija američkih života
i iskustava su snimljeni.
i iskustava su snimljeni.
18:19
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
18:27
Or imagine mothers on opposite
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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Ili zamislite majke na različitim
stranama sukoba negdje u svijetu
stranama sukoba negdje u svijetu
18:31
sitting down not to talk
about that conflict
about that conflict
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sjednu razgovarati ne o tom sukobu
18:34
but to find out who they are as people,
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već da saznaju tko su kao ljudi,
18:37
and in doing so,
begin to build bonds of trust;
begin to build bonds of trust;
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i radeći to, stvaraju vezu povjerenja;
18:41
or that someday it becomes
a tradition all over the world
a tradition all over the world
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ili da jednog dana to postane
tradicija diljem svijeta
tradicija diljem svijeta
18:44
that people are honored
with a StoryCorps interview
with a StoryCorps interview
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da su ljudi počašćeni
StoryCorps razgovorom
StoryCorps razgovorom
18:46
on their 75th birthday;
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na njihov 75-ti rođendan;
18:48
or that people in your community
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ili da ljudi u vašoj zajednici
18:51
go into retirement homes or hospitals
or homeless shelters or even prisons
or homeless shelters or even prisons
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idu u domove za umirovljenike, bolnice,
skloništa za beskućnike ili čak zatvore
skloništa za beskućnike ili čak zatvore
18:56
armed with this app to honor the people
least heard in our society
least heard in our society
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s ovom aplikacijom da daju počast
ljudima od kojih se najmanje čuje
ljudima od kojih se najmanje čuje
18:59
and ask them who they are,
what they've learned in life,
what they've learned in life,
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i da ih pitaju tko su,
što su naučili u životu,
što su naučili u životu,
19:02
and how they want to be remembered.
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i kako žele da ih se pamti.
19:05
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
19:12
Ten years ago, I recorded
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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Prije 10 godina, snimio sam
StoryCorps razgovor sa svojim ocem
StoryCorps razgovor sa svojim ocem
19:16
who was a psychiatrist,
and became a well-known gay activist.
and became a well-known gay activist.
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koji je bio psihijatar,
i postao poznati gay aktivist.
i postao poznati gay aktivist.
19:21
This is the picture
of us at that interview.
of us at that interview.
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Ovo je naša slika s razgovora.
19:24
I never thought about that recording
until a couple of years ago,
until a couple of years ago,
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Nikada nisam razmišljao o tom razgovoru
sve do prije par godina,
sve do prije par godina,
19:27
when my dad, who seemed
to be in perfect health
to be in perfect health
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kada je moj otac, za kojeg se činilo
da je savršenog zdravlja
da je savršenog zdravlja
19:30
and was still seeing patients
40 hours a week,
40 hours a week,
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i još uvijek je primao pacijente
40 sati na tjedan,
40 sati na tjedan,
19:33
was diagnosed with cancer.
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bio dijagnosticiran s rakom.
19:35
He passed away very suddenly
a few days later.
a few days later.
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Preminuo je vrlo iznenadno
par dana poslije.
par dana poslije.
19:39
It was June 28, 2012,
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Bio je 28. lipanj 2012.,
19:41
the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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godišnjica Stonewall nereda.
19:46
I listened to that interview
for the first time at three in the morning
for the first time at three in the morning
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Slušao sam taj razgovor
prvi put u 3 ujutro
prvi put u 3 ujutro
19:49
on the day that he died.
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na dan na koji je preminuo.
19:51
I have a couple of young kids at home,
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Imam par djece doma,
19:53
and I knew that the only way
they were going to get to know this person
they were going to get to know this person
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i znao sam da jedini način na koji
mogu upoznati tu osobu,
mogu upoznati tu osobu,
19:56
who was such a towering figure in my life
would be through that session.
would be through that session.
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koja je bila takva ogromna ličnost u mom
životu, je samo bilo kroz taj razgovor.
životu, je samo bilo kroz taj razgovor.
20:01
I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
any more deeply than I did,
any more deeply than I did,
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Nisam mislio da mogu vjerovati
u StoryCorps dublje nego već jesam,
u StoryCorps dublje nego već jesam,
20:05
but it was at that moment
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ali to je bio trenutak
20:06
that I fully and viscerally grasped
the importance of making these recordings.
the importance of making these recordings.
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kada sam potpuno i nagonski shvatio
važnost izrade ovih snimaka.
važnost izrade ovih snimaka.
20:11
Every day, people come up to me
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Svaki dan, ljudi mi prilaze
20:13
and say, "I wish I had interviewed
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
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i kažu, "Da sam bar intervjuirao
svog oca ili djeda ili brata,
svog oca ili djeda ili brata,
20:18
but I waited too long."
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ali sam čekao predugo."
20:20
Now, no one has to wait anymore.
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Više nitko ne mora čekati.
20:22
At this moment,
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U ovom vremenu,
20:24
when so much of how we communicate
is fleeting and inconsequential,
is fleeting and inconsequential,
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kada je toliki dio naše komunikacije
tako prolazan i beznačajan,
tako prolazan i beznačajan,
20:27
join us in creating this digital archive
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pridružite nam se
u stvaranju ove digitalne arhive
u stvaranju ove digitalne arhive
20:30
of conversations that are
enduring and important.
enduring and important.
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razgovora koji su trajni i važni.
20:34
Help us create this gift to our children,
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Pomozite nam napraviti dar našoj djeci,
20:37
this testament to who
we are as human beings.
we are as human beings.
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ovo svjedočanstvo o tome
tko smo kao ljudska bića.
tko smo kao ljudska bića.
20:41
I hope you'll help us make
this wish come true.
this wish come true.
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Nadam se da ćete nam pomoći
ostvariti tu želju.
ostvariti tu želju.
20:45
Interview a family member, a friend
or even a stranger.
or even a stranger.
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Intervjuirajte člana obitelji, prijatelja,
ili čak stranca.
ili čak stranca.
20:49
Together, we can create an archive
of the wisdom of humanity,
of the wisdom of humanity,
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Zajedno, možemo napraviti arhivu
mudrosti čovječanstva,
mudrosti čovječanstva,
20:56
and maybe in doing so,
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i možda radeći to,
20:57
we'll learn to listen a little more
and shout a little less.
and shout a little less.
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ćemo naučiti slušati malo više
i vikati malo manje.
i vikati malo manje.
21:01
Maybe these conversations will remind us
what's really important.
what's really important.
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Možda će nas ovi razgovori podsjetiti
što je stvarno važno.
što je stvarno važno.
21:06
And maybe, just maybe,
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I možda, samo možda,
21:08
it will help us recognize
that simple truth
that simple truth
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će nam pomoći prepoznati
jednostavnu istinu
jednostavnu istinu
21:11
that every life, every single life,
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da je svaki život, svaki pojedinačni život,
21:15
matters equally and infinitely.
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jednako i beskrajno važan.
21:18
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam jako puno.
21:20
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
21:22
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala vam. Hvala.
21:27
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
21:29
Thank you.
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Hvala.
21:31
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dave Isay - Story collectorOver thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all.
Why you should listen
From the first interview he recorded, 2015 TED Prize winner and MacArthur Fellow Dave Isay knew he’d found his calling: preserving the stories of everyday Americans. Since then, Isay has amassed hundreds of thousands of recordings, most of previously unheard or ignored voices, all speaking in their own words. The archives of StoryCorps -- which Isay founded in 2003 -- are included at the Library of Congress’ American Folklife Center, and now constitute the largest single collection of recorded voices in history.
StoryCorps invites friends, loved ones and strangers to conduct 40-minute interviews at intimate recording booths in Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, and (until 2011) New York, as well as in mobile studios nationwide. Offering moving and surprising glimpses into the hearts of often marginalized and forgotten subjects, the interviews are a familiar feature of NPR’s Morning Edition and Storycorps.org.
At TED2015, Isay shared an audacious wish for StoryCorps: to open up the format from its signature booths with a StoryCorps app that allows anyone to add to this "digital archive of the collective wisdom of humanity." The vision: to broaden this idea, and begin to take it global.
Dave Isay | Speaker | TED.com