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Suki Kim: This is what it's like to go undercover in North Korea
Suki Kim: Tako je, če greš pod krinko v Severni Koreji
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Suki Kim je šest mesecev kot učiteljica angleščine delala v elitni šoli za bodoče vodje Severne Koreje, medtem pa pisala knjigo o enem najbolj represivnih režimov na svetu. Medtem ko je svojim študentom pomagala razumeti pojme, kot sta "resnica" ali "kritično razmišljanje", se je začela spraševati, ali z učenjem iskanja resnice te študente postavlja v nevarnost. (Ta govor je bil del dogodka TED2015, ki ga je soorganiziral Pop-Up Magazine: popupmagazine.com ali @popupmag na Twitterju.)
Suki Kim - Writer
Suki Kim's investigation, "Without You, There Is No Us: My Time with the Sons of North Korea's Elite," chronicles her six months undercover in Pyongyang during Kim Jong-Il's final six months. She worked as a teacher and a missionary in a university for future leaders -- all while writing her book. Full bio
Suki Kim's investigation, "Without You, There Is No Us: My Time with the Sons of North Korea's Elite," chronicles her six months undercover in Pyongyang during Kim Jong-Il's final six months. She worked as a teacher and a missionary in a university for future leaders -- all while writing her book. Full bio
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00:12
In 2011, during the final six months
of Kim Jong-Il's life,
of Kim Jong-Il's life,
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Leta 2011, v zadnjih 6 mesecih življenja
Kim Jong Ila,
Kim Jong Ila,
00:19
I lived undercover in North Korea.
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sem pod krinko živela v Severni Koreji.
00:23
I was born and raised
in South Korea, their enemy.
in South Korea, their enemy.
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Rojena in vzgojena sem bila
v Južni Koreji, pri sovražniku.
v Južni Koreji, pri sovražniku.
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I live in America, their other enemy.
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Živim v Ameriki, ki je
njihov drugi sovražnik.
njihov drugi sovražnik.
00:32
Since 2002, I had visited
North Korea a few times.
North Korea a few times.
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Po letu 2002 sem večkrat
obiskala Severno Korejo.
obiskala Severno Korejo.
00:36
And I had come to realize
that to write about it with any meaning,
that to write about it with any meaning,
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In ugotovila sem, da če hočem pisati o tem
00:42
or to understand the place
beyond the regime's propaganda,
beyond the regime's propaganda,
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ali razumeti dogajanje
preko režimske propagande,
preko režimske propagande,
00:47
the only option was total immersion.
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potrebujem popolno poglobitev.
00:54
So I posed as a teacher and a missionary
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Zato sem se izdajala za učiteljico
in misijonarko
in misijonarko
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at an all-male university in Pyongyang.
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na moški univerzi v Pjongjangu.
01:06
The Pyongyang University
of Science and Technology
of Science and Technology
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Pjongjanško univerzo
za znanost in tehnologijo
za znanost in tehnologijo
01:10
was founded by Evangelical Christians
who cooperate with the regime
who cooperate with the regime
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so ustanovili evangeličanski kristjani,
ki sodelujejo z režimom,
ki sodelujejo z režimom,
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to educate the sons
of the North Korean elite,
of the North Korean elite,
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da bi izobrazili sinove
severnokorejske elite,
severnokorejske elite,
01:21
without proselytizing,
which is a capital crime there.
which is a capital crime there.
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brez spreobračanja v vero,
kar se tam kaznuje s smrtjo.
kar se tam kaznuje s smrtjo.
01:27
The students were 270 young men,
expected to be the future leaders
expected to be the future leaders
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270 mladih fantov je študiralo tam,
postali naj bili bodoči vodje
postali naj bili bodoči vodje
01:33
of the most isolated and brutal
dictatorship in existence.
dictatorship in existence.
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najbolj izolirane in brutalne
diktature na svetu.
diktature na svetu.
01:40
When I arrived, they became my students.
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Ko sem prispela,
so postali moji študentje.
so postali moji študentje.
01:47
2011 was a special year,
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2011 je bilo posebno leto,
01:49
marking the 100th anniversary of the birth
of North Korea's original Great Leader,
of North Korea's original Great Leader,
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ki je zaznamovalo 100. obletnico rojstva
prvega velikega vodje Severne Koreje,
prvega velikega vodje Severne Koreje,
01:55
Kim Il-Sung.
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Kim Il Sunga.
01:57
To celebrate the occasion, the regime
shut down all universities,
shut down all universities,
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Ob tej priložnosti so zaprli vse univerze
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and sent students off to the fields
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in študente poslali na polja,
02:06
to build the DPRK's much-heralded ideal
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da bi zgradili ideal, ki so ga
na veliko napovedovali,
na veliko napovedovali,
02:10
as the world's most powerful
and prosperous nation.
and prosperous nation.
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ideal najmočnejšega in
najuspešnejšega naroda na svetu.
najuspešnejšega naroda na svetu.
02:16
My students were the only ones
spared from that fate.
spared from that fate.
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Samo mojim študentom
je bilo to prihranjeno.
je bilo to prihranjeno.
02:21
North Korea is a gulag posing as a nation.
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Severna Koreja je gulag,
ki se pretvarja, da je narod.
ki se pretvarja, da je narod.
02:26
Everything there
is about the Great Leader.
is about the Great Leader.
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Tam se vse vrti okoli velikega vodje.
02:28
Every book, every newspaper article,
every song, every TV program --
every song, every TV program --
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Vsaka knjiga, vsak članek,
pesem, vsak TV program -
pesem, vsak TV program -
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there is just one subject.
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obstaja samo ena tema.
02:35
The flowers are named after him,
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Po njem so poimenovane rože,
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the mountains are carved with his slogans.
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v gorah so izklesani njegovi slogani.
02:40
Every citizen wears the badge
of the Great Leader at all times.
of the Great Leader at all times.
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Vsak državljan ves čas nosi
njegovo značko.
njegovo značko.
02:45
Even their calendar system begins
with the birth of Kim Il-Sung.
with the birth of Kim Il-Sung.
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Celo koledar se začne z njegovim rojstvom.
02:51
The school was a heavily guarded
prison, posing as a campus.
prison, posing as a campus.
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Šola je bila močno varovan zapor,
ki je izgledal kot kampus.
ki je izgledal kot kampus.
02:56
Teachers could only leave on group outings
accompanied by an official minder.
accompanied by an official minder.
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Učitelji so na skupinske izlete
lahko hodili le v uradnem spremstvu.
lahko hodili le v uradnem spremstvu.
03:03
Even then, our trips were limited
to sanctioned national monuments
to sanctioned national monuments
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In celo takrat smo bili omejeni na
obiske državnih spomenikov
obiske državnih spomenikov
03:09
celebrating the Great Leader.
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v čast velikemu vodji.
03:12
The students were not allowed
to leave the campus,
to leave the campus,
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Študentje kampusa niso smeli zapuščati
03:16
or communicate with their parents.
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niti niso smeli komunicirati s starši.
03:20
Their days were meticulously mapped out,
and any free time they had
and any free time they had
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Njihovi dnevi so bili skrbno
načrtovani in ves prosti čas
načrtovani in ves prosti čas
03:24
was devoted to honoring
their Great Leader.
their Great Leader.
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je bil namenjen čaščenju velikega vodje.
03:29
Lesson plans had to meet the approval
of North Korean staff,
of North Korean staff,
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Učni načrt je moralo odobriti
severnokorejsko osebje,
severnokorejsko osebje,
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every class was recorded and reported on,
every room was bugged,
every room was bugged,
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predavanja so se snemala, sobe so ozvočili
03:38
and every conversation, overheard.
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in poslušali vsak pogovor.
03:42
Every blank space was covered with the
portraits of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il,
portraits of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il,
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Vsak prazen prostor je bil prekrit s
portreti Kim Il Sunga ali Kim Jong Ila,
portreti Kim Il Sunga ali Kim Jong Ila,
03:48
like everywhere else in North Korea.
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tako kot povsod drugje v Severni Koreji.
03:53
We were never allowed
to discuss the outside world.
to discuss the outside world.
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Ni nam bilo dovoljeno govoriti
o zunanjem svetu.
o zunanjem svetu.
03:55
As students of science and technology,
many of them were computer majors
many of them were computer majors
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Kot študentje znanosti in tehnologije
so mnogi za glavni predmet
imeli računalništvo,
imeli računalništvo,
04:01
but they did not know
the existence of the Internet.
the existence of the Internet.
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a niso vedeli za obstoj interneta.
04:04
They had never heard
of Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Jobs.
of Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Jobs.
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Niso vedeli, kdo je Mark Zuckerberg
ali Steve Jobs.
ali Steve Jobs.
04:09
Facebook, Twitter -- none of those things
would have meant a thing.
would have meant a thing.
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Facebook, Twitter - nič od tega
zanje ni imelo pomena.
zanje ni imelo pomena.
04:14
And I could not tell them.
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In jaz jim nisem mogla povedati.
04:18
I went there looking for truth.
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Tja sem šla z namenom,
da bi poiskala resnico.
da bi poiskala resnico.
04:22
But where do you even start
when an entire nation's ideology,
when an entire nation's ideology,
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A kje začneš,
ko je ideologija celotnega naroda,
ko je ideologija celotnega naroda,
04:25
my students' day-to-day realities,
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dnevna resničnost mojih študentov,
04:27
and even my own position
at the universities,
at the universities,
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celo moj položaj na univerzi,
04:31
were all built on lies?
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vse zgrajeno na lažeh?
04:37
I started with a game.
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Začela sem z igro.
04:39
We played "Truth and Lie."
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Igrali smo se "Resnica ali laž".
04:42
A volunteer would write a sentence
on the chalkboard,
on the chalkboard,
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Prostovoljec je na tablo napisal stavek,
04:45
and the other students had to guess
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ostali študentje pa so ugibali,
04:48
whether it was a truth or a lie.
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ali je bil resničen ali ne.
04:51
Once a student wrote, "I visited
China last year on vacation,"
China last year on vacation,"
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Nekoč je nekdo napisal: "Lani sem
med počitnicami obiskal Kitajsko."
med počitnicami obiskal Kitajsko."
04:55
and everyone shouted, "Lie!"
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In vsi so zakričali: "Laž!"
04:59
They all knew this wasn't possible.
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Vsi so namreč vedeli,
da to ni bilo mogoče.
da to ni bilo mogoče.
05:01
Virtually no North Korean is allowed
to leave the country.
to leave the country.
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Skoraj nobenemu Severnokorejcu ni
dovoljeno zapustiti države.
dovoljeno zapustiti države.
05:05
Even traveling within their own country
requires a travel pass.
requires a travel pass.
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Že potovanje po državi
zahteva prepustnico.
zahteva prepustnico.
05:12
I had hoped that this game would reveal
some truth about my students,
some truth about my students,
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Upala sem, da bo igra razkrila
kakšno resnico o mojih študentih,
kakšno resnico o mojih študentih,
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because they lie so often and so easily,
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ker lažejo zelo pogosto in enostavno,
05:20
whether about the mythical
accomplishments of their Great Leader,
accomplishments of their Great Leader,
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naj gre za dosežke
njihovega velikega vodje
njihovega velikega vodje
05:25
or the strange claim that they cloned
a rabbit as fifth graders.
a rabbit as fifth graders.
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ali za čudne trditve,
da so v 5. razredu klonirali zajca.
da so v 5. razredu klonirali zajca.
05:31
The difference between truth and lies
seemed at times hazy to them.
seemed at times hazy to them.
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Razlika med resnico in lažmi
jim ni bila vedno jasna.
jim ni bila vedno jasna.
05:36
It took me a while to understand
the different types of lies;
the different types of lies;
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In vzelo mi je kar nekaj časa,
da sem razumela različne tipe laži;
da sem razumela različne tipe laži;
05:40
they lie to shield their system
from the world,
from the world,
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lagali so, da bi zaščitili
svoj sistem pred svetom,
svoj sistem pred svetom,
05:43
or they were taught lies,
and were just regurgitating them.
and were just regurgitating them.
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ali pa so jih teh laži naučili
in so jih oni samo ponavljali.
in so jih oni samo ponavljali.
05:47
Or, at moments, they lied out of habit.
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Vsake toliko pa so lagali
preprosto iz navade.
preprosto iz navade.
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But if all they have ever known were lies,
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A če je vse, kar so poznali, laž,
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how could we expect them to be otherwise?
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kako lahko od njih pričakujemo,
da bodo drugačni?
da bodo drugačni?
06:01
Next, I tried to teach them essay writing.
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Zatem sem jih poskušala naučiti
pisanja esejev.
pisanja esejev.
06:04
But that turned out to be
nearly impossible.
nearly impossible.
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Izkazalo se je, da je to
praktično nemogoče.
praktično nemogoče.
06:07
Essays are about coming up with
one's own thesis,
one's own thesis,
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Bistvo esejev je,
da si izmisliš svojo tezo
da si izmisliš svojo tezo
06:11
and making an evidence-based
argument to prove it.
argument to prove it.
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in jo na podlagi dokazov
tudi argumentiraš.
tudi argumentiraš.
06:16
These students, however, were
simply told what to think,
simply told what to think,
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Tem študentom pa so enostavno povedali,
kaj morajo misliti,
kaj morajo misliti,
06:19
and they obeyed.
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in ubogali so.
06:21
In their world, critical thinking
was not allowed.
was not allowed.
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V njihovem svetu kritično razmišljanje
ni bilo dovoljeno.
ni bilo dovoljeno.
06:26
I also gave them the weekly assignment
of writing a personal letter,
of writing a personal letter,
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Prav tako sem jim dala tedensko
zadolžitev, da so napisali pismo,
zadolžitev, da so napisali pismo,
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to anybody.
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komurkoli.
06:33
It took a long time, but eventually
some of them began to write
some of them began to write
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Minilo je kar nekaj časa,
preden jih je nekaj začelo pisati
preden jih je nekaj začelo pisati
06:37
to their mothers, their friends,
their girlfriends.
their girlfriends.
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svojim mamam, prijateljem, puncam.
06:42
Although those were just homework,
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Čeprav je bila to samo domača naloga,
06:45
and would never reach
their intended recipients,
their intended recipients,
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ki nikoli ne bi dosegla
končnega prejemnika,
končnega prejemnika,
06:49
my students slowly began to reveal
their true feelings in them.
their true feelings in them.
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so moji študentje počasi začeli
razkrivati svoja prava čustva.
razkrivati svoja prava čustva.
06:54
They wrote that they were fed
up with the sameness of everything.
up with the sameness of everything.
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Zapisali so, da so siti tega,
da je vse vedno enako.
da je vse vedno enako.
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They were worried about their future.
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Skrbelo jih je za svojo prihodnost.
07:01
In those letters, they rarely ever
mentioned their Great Leader.
mentioned their Great Leader.
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V pismih so redko omenjali velikega vodjo.
07:10
I was spending all of my time
with these young men.
with these young men.
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Preživljala sem ves svoj čas
s temi mladimi fanti.
s temi mladimi fanti.
07:14
We all ate meals together,
played basketball together.
played basketball together.
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Skupaj smo jedli, igrali košarko.
07:19
I often called them gentlemen,
which made them giggle.
which made them giggle.
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Pogosto sem jih klicala gospodje,
kar jih je nasmejalo.
kar jih je nasmejalo.
07:24
They blushed at the mention of girls.
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Zardeli so ob omembi deklet.
07:28
And I came to adore them.
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Začela sem jih oboževati
07:30
And watching them open up
even in the tiniest of ways,
even in the tiniest of ways,
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in opazovati, kako so se počasi odpirali,
07:34
was deeply moving.
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je bilo zelo ganljivo.
07:37
But something also felt wrong.
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A hkrati je bilo čutiti težave.
07:40
During those months
of living in their world,
of living in their world,
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V času, ko sem bivala v njihovem svetu,
07:43
I often wondered if the truth would,
in fact, improve their lives.
in fact, improve their lives.
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sem se pogosto spraševala, ali bi
resnica izboljšala njihova življenja.
resnica izboljšala njihova življenja.
07:51
I wanted so much to tell them the truth,
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Tako zelo močno sem jim
želela povedati resnico
želela povedati resnico
07:54
of their country and of the outside world,
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o njihovi državi in zunanjem svetu,
07:58
where Arab youth were turning
their rotten regime inside out,
their rotten regime inside out,
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kjer arabska mladina spreminja svoj režim
08:02
using the power of social media,
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z uporabo družabnih medijev,
08:04
where everyone except them was
connected through the world wide web,
connected through the world wide web,
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kjer so vsi, razen njih,
povezani preko spleta,
povezani preko spleta,
08:08
which wasn't worldwide after all.
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ki pa le ni tako zelo svetovni.
08:13
But for them, the truth was dangerous.
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A za njih je bila resnica nevarna.
08:18
By encouraging them to run after it,
I was putting them at risk --
I was putting them at risk --
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Če bi jih spodbujala,
da jo odkrijejo, bi jih izpostavila -
da jo odkrijejo, bi jih izpostavila -
08:23
of persecution,
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preganjanju,
08:26
of heartbreak.
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zlomu srca.
08:30
When you're not allowed to express
anything in the open,
anything in the open,
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Ko ti ni dovoljeno,
da bi karkoli javno izpostavil,
da bi karkoli javno izpostavil,
08:33
you become good at reading
what is unspoken.
what is unspoken.
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postaneš dober
v prebiranju neizgovorjenega.
v prebiranju neizgovorjenega.
08:37
In one of their personal letters to me,
a student wrote that he understood
a student wrote that he understood
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V enem od osebnih pisem meni
je študent napisal, da razume,
je študent napisal, da razume,
08:42
why I always called them gentlemen.
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zakaj jih vedno kličem gospodje.
08:46
It was because I was wishing them
to be gentle in life, he said.
to be gentle in life, he said.
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Bilo naj bi zato, ker jim želim,
da bi bili nežni v življenju.
da bi bili nežni v življenju.
08:54
On my last day in December of 2011,
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Na moj zadnji dan, decembra 2011,
08:57
the day Kim Jong-Il's death was announced,
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na dan, ko je bila objavljena
smrt Kim Jonga Ila,
smrt Kim Jonga Ila,
09:00
their world shattered.
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se je njihov svet sesul.
09:04
I had to leave without a proper goodbye.
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Morala sem oditi brez pravega slovesa.
09:08
But I think they knew
how sad I was for them.
how sad I was for them.
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A mislim, da so vedeli,
kako žalostna sem bila zanje.
kako žalostna sem bila zanje.
09:12
Once, toward the end of my stay,
a student said to me,
a student said to me,
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Nekoč mi je študent, proti koncu
mojega bivanja tam, rekel:
mojega bivanja tam, rekel:
09:16
"Professor, we never think of you
as being different from us.
as being different from us.
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"Profesorica, o vas nikoli ne mislimo,
da ste drugačni od nas.
da ste drugačni od nas.
09:21
Our circumstances are different,
but you're the same as us.
but you're the same as us.
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Naše okoliščine so drugačne,
a ste isti kot mi.
a ste isti kot mi.
09:27
We want you to know that we truly
think of you as being the same."
think of you as being the same."
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Želimo, da veste, da vas imamo
resnično za nam enako."
resnično za nam enako."
09:37
Today, if I could respond
to my students with a letter of my own,
to my students with a letter of my own,
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Če bi jim danes lahko odgovorila
v svojem pismu,
v svojem pismu,
09:41
which is of course impossible,
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kar je seveda nemogoče,
09:44
I would tell them this:
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bi jim povedala sledeče:
09:49
"My dear gentlemen,
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"Moji dragi gospodje,
09:52
It's been a bit over three years
since I last saw you.
since I last saw you.
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minila so že več kot tri leta,
kar sem vas nazadnje videla.
kar sem vas nazadnje videla.
09:55
And now, you must be 22 --
maybe even as old as 23.
maybe even as old as 23.
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Stari morate biti 22 - morda celo 23 let.
10:00
At our final class, I asked you
if there was anything you wanted.
if there was anything you wanted.
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Na našem zadnjem predavanju
sem vas vprašala, če si česa želite.
sem vas vprašala, če si česa želite.
10:05
The only wish you expressed,
the only thing you ever asked of me
the only thing you ever asked of me
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Edina želja, ki ste jo izrazili,
vse, kar ste me prosili
vse, kar ste me prosili
10:09
in all those months we spent together,
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v vseh mesecih, ki smo jih
preživeli skupaj, je,
preživeli skupaj, je,
10:12
was for me to speak to you in Korean.
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da bi z vami govorila v korejščini.
10:15
Just once.
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Vsaj enkrat.
10:17
I was there to teach you English;
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Bila sem tam, da bi vas naučila angleško;
10:19
you knew it wasn't allowed.
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vedeli ste, da tega ne smem storiti.
10:22
But I understood then, you wanted
to share that bond of our mother tongue.
to share that bond of our mother tongue.
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A sem razumela, da želite deliti vez
našega maternega jezika.
našega maternega jezika.
10:30
I called you my gentlemen,
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Klicala sem vas moji gospodje,
10:33
but I don't know if being gentle
in Kim Jong-Un's merciless North Korea
in Kim Jong-Un's merciless North Korea
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a ne vem, če je nežnost v Kim Jong Unovi
neusmiljeni Severni Koreji dobra stvar.
neusmiljeni Severni Koreji dobra stvar.
10:37
is a good thing.
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10:39
I don't want you to lead a revolution --
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Nočem, da začnete revolucijo -
10:42
let some other young person do it.
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dopustite, da jo začne nekdo drug.
10:45
The rest of the world might casually
encourage or even expect
encourage or even expect
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Preostali svet bi mimogrede morda
spodbudil ali celo pričakoval
spodbudil ali celo pričakoval
10:48
some sort of North Korean Spring,
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neke vrste severnokorejsko pomlad,
10:50
but I don't want you to do anything risky,
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a nočem, da naredite karkoli tveganega,
10:53
because I know in your world,
someone is always watching.
someone is always watching.
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ker vem, da vas v vašem svetu
vedno nekdo opazuje.
vedno nekdo opazuje.
10:59
I don't want to imagine
what might happen to you.
what might happen to you.
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Nočem si niti predstavljati,
kaj bi se vam lahko zgodilo.
kaj bi se vam lahko zgodilo.
11:02
If my attempts to reach you have
inspired something new in you,
inspired something new in you,
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Če so moji poskusi, da vas dosežem,
navdihnili nekaj novega v vas,
navdihnili nekaj novega v vas,
11:07
I would rather you forget me.
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bi raje videla, da me pozabite.
11:09
Become soldiers of your Great Leader,
and live long, safe lives.
and live long, safe lives.
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Postanite vojaki velikega vodje
in živite dolga in varna življenja.
in živite dolga in varna življenja.
11:16
You once asked me if I thought
your city of Pyongyang was beautiful,
your city of Pyongyang was beautiful,
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Nekoč ste me vprašali,
če mislim, da je vaš Pjongjang lep,
če mislim, da je vaš Pjongjang lep,
11:21
and I could not answer truthfully then.
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in takrat vam resnično nisem
mogla iskreno odgovoriti.
mogla iskreno odgovoriti.
11:25
But I know why you asked.
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A vem, zakaj ste me vprašali.
11:27
I know that it was important for you
to hear that I, your teacher,
to hear that I, your teacher,
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Vem, da vam je bilo pomembno slišati,
da jaz, kot učiteljica,
da jaz, kot učiteljica,
11:32
the one who has seen the world
that you are forbidden from,
that you are forbidden from,
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kot nekdo, ki je videl svet,
ki je vam prepovedan,
ki je vam prepovedan,
11:35
declare your city as the most beautiful.
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razglasi vaše mesto za najlepše.
11:41
I know hearing that would make
your lives there a bit more bearable,
your lives there a bit more bearable,
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Vem, da bi vam ta stavek
malce olajšal življenje,
malce olajšal življenje,
11:46
but no, I don't find
your capital beautiful.
your capital beautiful.
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a ne, žal se mi vaše glavno mesto
ne zdi lepo.
ne zdi lepo.
11:50
Not because it's monotone and concrete,
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Ne zato, ker je monotono in iz betona,
11:53
but because of what it symbolizes:
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ampak zaradi tega, kar simbolizira:
11:55
a monster that feeds off
the rest of the country,
the rest of the country,
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pošast, ki se hrani
na preostalem delu države,
na preostalem delu države,
12:00
where citizens are soldiers and slaves.
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kjer so državljani vojaki in sužnji.
12:05
All I see there is darkness.
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Vse, kar vidim, je tema.
12:09
But it's your home, so I cannot hate it.
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A to je vaš dom,
zato ga ne morem sovražiti.
zato ga ne morem sovražiti.
12:13
And I hope instead that you,
my lovely young gentlemen,
my lovely young gentlemen,
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In namesto tega upam, da ga boste vi,
moji ljubi mladi gospodje,
moji ljubi mladi gospodje,
12:18
will one day help make it beautiful.
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nekega dne naredili lepega."
12:22
Thank you.
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Hvala lepa.
12:24
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Suki Kim - WriterSuki Kim's investigation, "Without You, There Is No Us: My Time with the Sons of North Korea's Elite," chronicles her six months undercover in Pyongyang during Kim Jong-Il's final six months. She worked as a teacher and a missionary in a university for future leaders -- all while writing her book.
Why you should listen
Suki Kim is the only writer to ever go undercover into North Korea to write a book from the inside. Since 2002, South Korean-born Kim travelled to North Korea, witnessing both Kim Jong-Il's 60th birthday celebration and his death at age 69 in 2011.
Her work sheds a new light on the understanding of the North Korean society by delving into its day-to-day life and provides unprecedented insights into the psychology of its ruling class, about whom the world knows very little.
Kim's novel, The Interpreter, was a finalist for a PEN Hemingway Prize, and her nonfiction has appeared in The New York Times, Harper's and The New York Review of Books. She is the author of the investigation Without You, There Is No Us: My Time with the Sons of North Korea's Elite.
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