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Shilo Shiv Suleman: Using tech to enable dreaming
希洛·西瓦·苏尔曼: 用科技来实现梦想
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我们的科技--我们的手机和iPod还有相机--使我们停止梦想了吗？年轻的艺术家希洛·西瓦·苏尔曼说不，正如她展示的iPad上应用程序“Khoya”,她新的故事书将领我们在一个充满了单纯想象力的魔幻世界漂浮7分钟。
Shilo Shiv Suleman - Artist
Shilo Shiv Suleman is an illustrator, storyteller and iPad book creator. Full bio
Shilo Shiv Suleman is an illustrator, storyteller and iPad book creator. Full bio
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My story begins right here actually in Rajasthan
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我的故事就发生在拉贾斯坦邦
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about two years ago.
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是在大约两年前
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I was in the desert, under the starry skies
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我在沙漠，在一个满是星光的天空下
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with the Sufi singer Mukhtiar Ali.
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和一名苏菲派的歌手木泰哈·阿里
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And we were in conversation
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我们的谈话是关于
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about how nothing had changed
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没有任何事情被改变
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since the time of the ancient Indian epic "The Mahabharata."
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自从古代印度史诗《摩呵婆罗多》的时候起
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So back in the day, when us Indians wanted to travel
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回到过去，当我们想去旅游
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we'd jump into a chariot and we'd zoom across the sky.
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我们跳进了一个战车飞驰过了天空
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Now we do the same with airplanes.
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现在我们用飞机可以同样做到
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Back then,
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在那个时候，
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when Arjuna, the great Indian warrior prince,
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当印度伟大的战王阿朱那，
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when he was thirsty, he'd take out a bow,
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当他渴了，他拔出一支箭，
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he'd shoot it into the ground and water would come out.
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射进地里水就会出来
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Now we do the same
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现在我们同样地
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with drills and machines.
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用钻头和机器
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The conclusion that we came to
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我们得到的结论就是
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was that magic had been replaced
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魔法被
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by machinery.
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机器代替了
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And this made me really sad.
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这令我感到伤心
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I found myself becoming a little bit of a technophobe.
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我发掘自己有点像个技术恐惧者
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I was terrified by this idea
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我对这种想法感到恐惧
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that I would lose the ability
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我将会失去
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to enjoy and appreciate the sunset
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享受和欣赏日落的能力
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without having my camera on me, without tweeting it to my friends.
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在没有相机，没有和我的朋友们微博的情况下
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And it felt like technology
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而且我觉得科技
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should enable magic, not kill it.
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应该实现魔法，而不是扼杀它
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When I was a little girl,
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当我还是一个小女孩，
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my grandfather gave me his little silver pocket watch.
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我的爷爷给我他的小银怀表
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And this piece of 50-year-old technology
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这个50年久的科技玩意
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became the most magical thing to me.
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成了对我最有魔力的东西
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It became a gilded gateway
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在我的想象力中，它变成了一个镀金的大门
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into a world full of pirates and shipwrecks
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带我通向一个充满了海盗和失事船只
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and images in my imagination.
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和富有想象的世界
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So I felt like our cellphones
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所以我觉得我们的手机
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and our fancy watches and our cameras
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我们华丽的手表和我们的相机
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had stopped us from dreaming.
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让我们停止了梦想
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They stopped us from being inspired.
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它们让我们失去了灵感
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And so I jumped in, I jumped into this world of technology,
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所以我投入进了这个科技的世界，
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to see how I could use it to enable magic
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看看如何能用它们来创造魔法
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as opposed to kill it.
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而不是扼杀它们
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I've been illustrating books since I was 16.
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我从16岁起就开始为书来作插图
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And so when I saw the iPad,
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当我看到iPad,
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I saw it as a storytelling device
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我把它当作一个讲故事的设备
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that could connect readers all over the world.
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可以将全世界的读者都联系起来
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It can know how we're holding it.
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它可以知道我们是如何拿着它
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It can know where we are.
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知道我们在哪里
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It brings together image and text
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它将图像和文字
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and animation and sound and touch.
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动画，声音和触感都结合起来
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Storytelling is becoming
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讲故事变成了
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more and more multi-sensorial.
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越来越多的多感官
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But what are we doing with it?
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但是我们能用它做什么呢？
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So I'm actually just going to go in and launch Khoya,
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所以我实际上要推出Khoya,
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an interactive app for the iPad.
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一个iPad互动程序
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So it says, "Place your fingers
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它说，“将您的手指
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upon each light."
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放在每一个灯上”
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And so --
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然后--
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(Music)
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(音乐)
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It says, "This box belongs to ... "
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它说，“这个盒子属于...”
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And so I type in my name.
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所以我把我的名字输入进去
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And actually I become a character in the book.
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那我就成了这本书里的一个人物
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At various points, a little letter drops down to me --
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在不同的页面，一小封信掉下来给我--
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and the iPad knows where you live because of GPS --
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因为GPS, iPad知道你住在哪里
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which is actually addressed to me.
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标记给我的
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The child in me is really excited
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我的孩子那一面十分兴奋
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by these kinds of possibilities.
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因为这些各种各样的可能性
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Now I've been talking a lot about magic.
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现在我一直在谈论魔法
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And I don't mean wizards and dragons,
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并不是指巫婆和神龙，
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I mean the kind of childhood magic,
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而是指孩子们的魔法，
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those ideas that we all harbored as children.
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那些我们孩童时候心存的想法
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This idea of fireflies in a jar, for some reason,
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不知道为什么，萤火虫在坛子里的想法
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was always really exciting to me.
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常常令我十分兴奋
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And so over here you need to tilt your iPad,
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在这里你需要倾斜你的iPad,
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take the fireflies out.
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让这些萤火虫出来
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And they actually illuminate your way through the rest of the book.
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它们就可以照亮你的整本书
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Another idea that really fascinated me as a child
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另一个令人着迷的主意就是当我还是个孩子
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was that an entire galaxy could be contained
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整个银河系将被
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within a single marble.
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一块大理石包裹着
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And so over here,
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所以在这里
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each book and each world
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每一本书都
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becomes a little marble
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变成一个小的大理石
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that I drag in
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我将它们用这个装置
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to this magical device within the device.
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托进这个魔法的装置里面
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And it opens up a map.
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然后它打开一张地图
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All along, all fantasy books have always had maps,
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随之，所有神奇的书都有地图，
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but these maps have been static.
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但是这些地图一直是静止的
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This is a map that grows and glows
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这是一张地图变化并且发热
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and becomes your navigation for the rest of the book.
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成为你剩下这本书的导航
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It reveals itself to you at certain points in the book as well.
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在这本书的某处它也会显示出自己
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So I'm just going to enter in.
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所以我正准备进入
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Another thing that's actually really important to me
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另一个对我而言真的重要的事情就是
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is creating content that is Indian
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创造非常印度
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and yet very contemporary.
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却又非常现代的内容
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Over here, these are the Apsaras.
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在这里，这些是飞天
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So we've all heard about fairies and we've all heard about nymphs,
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我们都听说过仙女，听说过女神，
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but how many people outside of India
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但是有多少在印度之外的人
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know about their Indian counterparts, the Apsaras?
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知道关于她们的对应者，飞天？
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These poor Apsaras have been trapped inside Indra's chambers for thousands of years
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这些可怜的飞天被困在因陀罗的小屋子里数千年
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in an old and musty book.
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在一个古老的发霉的书中
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And so we're bringing them back
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因此我们将她们带回来
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in a contemporary story for children.
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带到和孩子们同时代的故事里
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And a story that actually deals with new issues
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一个解决新问题的故事，
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like the environmental crisis.
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如同环境危机
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(Music)
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(音乐）
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Speaking of the environmental crisis,
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谈起环境危机，
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I think a big problem has been in the last 10 years
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我觉得最近10年的一个最大的问题
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is that children have been locked inside their rooms,
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就是孩子们被关在他们的房间里，
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glued to their PCs, they haven't been able to get out.
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紧紧帖在他们的电脑上，他们不能出去
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But now with mobile technology,
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但是现在用移动式的科技，
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we can actually take our children outside into the natural world
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我们可以用科技
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with their technology.
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把我们的孩子领出去带到自然世界
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One of the interactions in the book
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在这本书中的一个互动就是
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is that you're sent off on this quest
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这个要求命令
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where you need to go outside,
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你需要去到外面世界，
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take out your camera on the iPad
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用你iPad上的相机
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and collect pictures of different natural objects.
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收集不同的自然物的照片
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When I was a child, I had multiple collections
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当我还是一个孩子，我有各种不同的收集
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of sticks and stones and pebbles and shells.
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如木条，石头，鹅卵石和贝壳
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And somehow kids don't do that anymore.
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不知道为什么孩子们不再收集了
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So in bringing back this childhood ritual,
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所以我把这个孩子时候的仪式带了回来，
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you need to go out
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你需要走出去
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and, in one chapter, take a picture of a flower
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在一个章节里，照一张花儿的照片
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and then tag it.
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然后给它标记命名
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In another chapter, you need to take a picture of a piece of bark
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在另一个章节里，你需要照一张树皮的照片
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and then tag that.
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然后标记它
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And what happens
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接下来发生的就是
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is that you actually create a digital collection of photographs
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你实际上创造了一个数码的相片的收集
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that you can then put up online.
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你可以把它放到网上
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A child in London puts up a picture of a fox
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一个在伦敦的孩子放上去了一张狐狸的照片
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and says, "Oh, I saw a fox today."
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说，“哦，我今天看到了一只狐狸”
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A child in India says, "I saw a monkey today."
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一个在印度的孩子说，“我今天看到了一只猴子”
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And it creates this kind of social network
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它创造出这样的一个社交网络，
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around a collection of digital photographs
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围绕着这样一个
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that you've actually taken.
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实际上是你照的数码相片的收集
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In the possibilities of linking together
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有了这些魔法
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magic, the earth and technology,
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地球和科技都联系起来的可能性
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there are multiple possibilities.
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这里就会有更多种多样的可能性
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In the next book, we plan on having an interaction
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在下本书中，我们计划一种互动
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where you take your iPad out with the video on
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你用iPad的视频
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and through augmented reality,
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通过增强现实，
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you see this layer of animated pixies
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你看这层是活泼乱动的精灵
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appear on a houseplant that's outside your house.
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出现在你房子外面的盆栽上
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At one point, your screen is filled up with leaves.
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在某一点上，你的屏幕上布满了树叶
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And so you need to make the sound of wind and blow them away
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所以你需要弄出风的声音将它们吹走
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and read the rest of the book.
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然后读书下面的部分
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We're moving, we're all moving here,
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我们在移动，移动到这里
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to a world where the forces of nature
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到一个自然的力量和科技变得越来越近
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come closer together to technology,
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的一个世界，
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and magic and technology can come closer together.
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魔法和科技可以走得更近
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We're harnessing energy from the sun.
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我们利用太阳的能量
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We're bringing our children and ourselves
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我们把我们的孩子和我们自己
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closer to the natural world
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和自然世界拉得更近
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and that magic and joy
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和我们
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and childhood love that we had
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通过一个简单的传媒故事
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through the simple medium of a story.
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带来魔法和愉快，以及孩童时候的爱
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Thank you.
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谢谢
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Shilo Shiv Suleman - ArtistShilo Shiv Suleman is an illustrator, storyteller and iPad book creator.
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