Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?
کێن رۆبنسن: ئایا خوێندنگاکان توانای داهێنان لەناو دەبەن؟
Creativity expert Sir Ken Robinson challenges the way we're educating our children. He champions a radical rethink of our school systems, to cultivate creativity and acknowledge multiple types of intelligence. Full bio
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running through the conference
to what I want to talk about.
ئەمەوێ باسی بکەم
evidence of human creativity
and the range of it.
that it's put us in a place
what's going to happen,
چی ڕودەدات
has an interest in education.
کە هەموو کەس گرنگی بە بواری پەروەردە دەدات .
at dinner parties, frankly.
لە ئاهەنگدا نابیت.
you're not asked.
That's strange to me.
ئەمە بۆ من سەیرە.
وە بە کەسێ بڵێی
کاردەکەم
you know, "Why me?"
چومەدەرەوە"
they pin you to the wall.
ئەوان بپرسیت، پەلامارت دەدەن
that goes deep with people, am I right?
کاریگەری زۆرە لەسەر کەسەکان، وایە؟
and I think we all do.
وابزانم هەموومان هەمانە.
that's meant to take us into this future
بۆ ئەو داهاتووەی
children starting school this year
ئەو منداڵانەی ئەمساڵ دەچنە قوتابخانە
on parade for the past four days,
چوار ڕۆژی رابردوودا پیشان درا
in five years' time.
داهاتوو چۆن دەبێت.
to be educating them for it.
بۆ ئەو داهاتووە
I think, is extraordinary.
بەلامەوە، لە ئەندازە بەدەرە
capacities that children have --
was a marvel, wasn't she?
she's not, so to speak,
of extraordinary dedication
all kids have tremendous talents.
منداڵان بەهرەی نایابیان هەیە
پەروەردە بکەم
is as important in education as literacy,
داهێنان هێندەی خوێندەواری گرنگە
with the same status.
-- I love telling it --
-حەز دەکەم بیگێڕمەوە-
who was in a drawing lesson.
at the back, drawing,
پۆلەکە وێنەی دەکێشا
hardly ever paid attention,
بە دەگمەن ئاگاداری وانە دەبوو
and she said, "What are you drawing?"
drawing a picture of God."
knows what God looks like."
وێنەی خودا چۆنە!"
"They will, in a minute."
لە ئینگلتەرا
everywhere, to be honest.
wherever he went, he was four that year.
دەرۆیشت، ئەو ساڵە تەمەنی چوار ساڵ بوو
Do you remember the story?
چیرۆکەکەتان بیر ماوە؟
you may have seen it.
ڕەنگە بینیبێتتان.
which we were thrilled about.
کە هەموومانی هێنابووە جۆش و خرۆش
one of the lead parts.
رۆڵە سەرەکییەکان
full of agents in T-shirts:
کەسانەی لەسەر فانیلەکانیان نوسرابوو
(پێکەنین)
where the three kings come in?
gold, frankincense and myrrh.
دێنە ژورێ.
they just went out of sequence,
afterward and we said,
لەگەڵ کوڕە مندالەکەدا کرد و گووتمان
"Yeah, why? Was that wrong?"
ئەو گووتی، "بەڵی، بۆ؟ هەڵە بوو؟"
on their heads,
"I bring you gold."
"I bring you myrrh."
is that kids will take a chance.
ئەگەر هاتوو دەرفەت رەخسا
ئەبێت لە شتەکەیا
frightened of being wrong.
is the same thing as being creative.
لەگەڵ ئەوەی خاوەن بیر بیت
if you're not prepared to be wrong,
ئامادە نەبیت هەڵە بکەیت
with anything original --
most kids have lost that capacity.
زۆربەی منداڵەکان ئەو توانایە لە دەست دەدەن
frightened of being wrong.
national education systems
بەجۆرێ بەڕێوە دەبەین
thing you can make.
we are educating people
کەسەکان بە جۆرێک پەروەردە دەکەین
that all children are born artists.
دەبن هونەرمەندن
as we grow up.
لە کاتی گەورەبوونماندا
that we don't grow into creativity,
گەشە ناکەین بەرەو داهێنان
until about five years ago.
پێنج ساڵ لەمەوبەر
from Stratford to Los Angeles.
بۆ لۆس ئەنجلس
what a seamless transition that was.
گۆرانکارییەکی بچوک بوو
called Snitterfield,
بە ناوی سنتەرفیڵد
Shakespeare's father was born.
لە دایک بووە
من بۆم هات
having a father, do you?
هەبوبێت، وایە؟
of Shakespeare being a child, do you?
منداڵ بووبێت
English class, wasn't he?
to Shakespeare, "Go to bed, now!
پێی بڵێ "برۆ ناو جێگاکەت"
from Stratford to Los Angeles,
بۆ لۆس ئەنجلس
about the transition.
he's 21 now, my daughter's 16.
کوڕەکەم ئێستا ٢١ ساڵە، کچەکەشم ١٦ ساڵە.
a girlfriend in England.
هەبوو لە ئینگلتەرا
سارا
their fourth anniversary,
another girl like Sarah."
سارا نادۆزمەوە"
about that, frankly --
we were leaving the country.
وڵاتەکەمان جێهێشت.
when you move to America
کاتێ سەفەری ئەمەریکا دەکەیت
has the same hierarchy of subjects.
هەمان ئاستی وانەیان هەیە
otherwise, but it isn't.
and at the bottom are the arts.
وە لە کۆتاییشدا هونەر.
there's a hierarchy within the arts.
پلە بۆ وانەی هونەر دانراوە
given a higher status in schools
بەرزتریان دراوەتێ لە خوێندنگاکان
system on the planet
important, but so is dance.
if they're allowed to, we all do.
پێ بدرێت،ئێمەش هەروا.
Did I miss a meeting?
کۆبونەوەم لە دەست چوە؟
as children grow up,
کە مندالان گەشەدەکەن
from the waist up.
بە پەروەردەکردنیان
education, as an alien,
if you look at the output,
بە بڕوای من دەگەی بەو ئەنجامەی
points, who are the winners --
the whole purpose of public education
ئامانجی پەروەردەی گشتی
professors, but you know,
of all human achievement.
out of affection for them.
لە خۆشەویستیدا وایان پێ دەڵێم
about professors in my experience --
شتێکی سەیریان تێدایە
they live in their heads.
لە سەریاندا دەژین
and slightly to one side.
وە کەمێک بە لایەکدا.
in a kind of literal way.
ئەوان بێ جەستەن.
of transport for their heads.
بۆ مێشکیان تەماشا دەکەن
their head to meetings.
بگەیەنێتە کۆبونەوەکان
of out-of-body experiences,
ژیانی دەرەوەی جەستەیان دەوێت
conference of senior academics,
on the final night.
هۆڵی سەماکردنەکە بکە
writhing uncontrollably, off the beat.
ئاواز سەما دەکەن
go home and write a paper about it.
ماڵەوە تا کاغەزێکی لەسەر بنوسن
on the idea of academic ability.
توانای ئەکادیمی چەسپێنراوە
no public systems of education,
بوونی نەبووە لە دونیادا
to meet the needs of industrialism.
پیشەسازی پێک بهێنن
بنیات نراون
subjects for work are at the top.
پێویستن لە لوتکەدان
probably steered benignly away
were a kid, things you liked,
بووی لە قوتابخانە
never get a job doing that. Is that right?
کارێک نادۆزیتەوە، ڕاستە؟
going to be a musician;
بەڵام ئێجگار هەڵە
is engulfed in a revolution.
our view of intelligence,
زیرەکی گۆڕیوە
the system in their image.
شێوازە بونیاد نراون
of public education around the world
پەروەردەی گشتی لە دونیادا
of university entrance.
is that many highly-talented,
کەسی زۆر بەهرەدار
people think they're not,
they were good at at school
or was actually stigmatized.
to go on that way.
بەو شێوازە بڕۆین
بە بۆچوونی یونسکۆ
than since the beginning of history.
of all the things we've talked about --
هەموو ئەو شتانەیە کە باسمان کرد
effect on work, and demography
وە دیمۆگرافیا و
if you had a degree, you had a job.
هەبوایە، کارێکت هەبوو
it's because you didn't want one.
بوو کە خۆت نەتویستووە
(پێکەنین)
to carry on playing video games,
the previous job required a BA,
کارەی پێشتر بەکالۆریۆسی دەویست
structure of education
تێکڕای پێکهاتەی پەروەردە
our view of intelligence.
بۆ زیرەکی بکەینەوە
that we experience it.
دونیا دەکەینەوە
we think kinesthetically.
بە جوڵە بیردەکەینەوە
we think in movement.
لەکاتی جوڵەدا بیردەکەینەوە
of a human brain,
from a number of presentations,
لە پێشکەشکراوەکان
یەک دەکات
which I define as the process
بە پرۆسەی
that have value --
through the interaction
بۆچونە جیاوازانە
ways of seeing things.
that joins the two halves of the brain
لای مێشک بەیەکەوە دەبەستن
are better at multi-tasking.
لە فرە کاریدا
but I know it from my personal life.
بەڵام من لە ژانی تایبەتی خۆمەوە دەزانم
which is not often, thankfully.
بکات -- کە زوو زوو نییە شوکور
but if she's cooking,
بەڵام ئەگەر خواردن ئامادە بکات
she's painting the ceiling,
بنمیچەکە ڕەنگ دەکات
is shut, the kids are out,
دەرگاکە داخراوە،منالەکان لە دەرەوەن
if she comes in I get annoyed.
ئەگەر خێزانەکەم بێتە ژورەوە توڕەدەبم
I'm trying to fry an egg in here."
that old philosophical thing,
and nobody hears it, did it happen?
و کەس گوێی لێ نەبێ،بەڕاستی کەوتووە؟
recently, which said,
لەسەری نوسرابوو.
in a forest, and no woman hears him,
خۆی دەربڕی و هیچ ژنێک گوێ لێ نەبوو
called "Epiphany,"
"ئیپیفانی"
of interviews with people
by how people got to be there.
I had with a wonderful woman
مەزندا سەری هەڵدا
have never heard of, Gillian Lynne.
جیلیان لین
and everybody knows her work.
هەموو کەس کارەکانی دەزانێت
of The Royal Ballet,
شاهانە بووم
lunch one day and I said,
دەخوارد و وتم
she was really hopeless.
بە تەواوی بێئومێد بوو
wrote to her parents and said,
نامەیەکیان بۆ دایک و باوکی نارد و ووتیان
has a learning disorder."
she was fidgeting.
دڵەڕاوکێی هەبوو
Wouldn't you?
(ئەی دی ئێچ دی) هەیە، وایە؟
hadn't been invented at this point.
لەو کاتەدا نەدۆزرابۆوە
and she was there with her mother,
لەگەڵ دایکی لەوێبوو
on this chair at the end,
while this man talked to her mother
پیاوەکە قسەی لەگەڵ دایکی دەکرد
Gillian was having at school.
her homework was always late; and so on,
ئەرکەکانی ماڵەوەی جێبەجێ نەدەکرد
went and sat next to Gillian, and said,
دانیشت و گووتی،
things your mother's told me,
قسەکانی دایکت گرتووە
we won't be very long,"
زۆرمان پێ ناچێت"
that was sitting on his desk.
mother, "Just stand and watch her."
"تەنیا بوەستە و سەیر بکە"
and he turned to her mother and said,
سەیری دایکی کرد و گووتی
isn't sick; she's a dancer.
سەماکارە
how wonderful it was.
چەنێک خۆش بوو
and it was full of people like me.
خۆیان بوەستن
Who had to move to think.
بۆ ئەوەی بیر بکەنەوە"
they did modern; they did contemporary.
سەمای مۆدێرن و سەردەم
for the Royal Ballet School;
سەمای بالێی شاهانە
کارێکی باشی کرد لەوێ
a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet.
from the Royal Ballet School,
موزیکییەکان بوو لە مێژوودا
musical theater productions in history,
خاوەنی چەندین ملیۆن دۆلارە
and she's a multi-millionaire.
پێ بدایە و پێی بگووتایە ئارام بێتەوە
on medication and told her to calm down.
that was triggered by Rachel Carson.
لە لایەن رەیچڵ کارسن بەرپا بوو
of human ecology,
دەربارەی سروشتی مرۆڤ خۆی
to reconstitute our conception
دەربارەی
بیرمانی کۆڵیوە
for a particular commodity.
the fundamental principles
ڕێسایانە بکەینەوە
by Jonas Salk, who said,
کە دەڵێ
were to disappear from the Earth,
on Earth would end.
زەوی کۆتای دەهات
disappeared from the Earth,
of life would flourish."
دەبوژانەوە
of the human imagination.
توانای خەیاڵی مرۆڤە
that we've talked about.
کە باسمان کرد ڕووبدات
our creative capacities
توانا پڕ داهێنانەکانە
for the hope that they are.
ئەو هیوایەی تیایاندا دەیبینین
their whole being,
داهاتووەش نەبینین
make something of it.
شتێکی لێ بەرهەم بهێنن
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ken Robinson - Author/educatorCreativity expert Sir Ken Robinson challenges the way we're educating our children. He champions a radical rethink of our school systems, to cultivate creativity and acknowledge multiple types of intelligence.
Why you should listen
Why don't we get the best out of people? Sir Ken Robinson argues that it's because we've been educated to become good workers, rather than creative thinkers. Students with restless minds and bodies -- far from being cultivated for their energy and curiosity -- are ignored or even stigmatized, with terrible consequences. "We are educating people out of their creativity," Robinson says. It's a message with deep resonance. Robinson's TED Talk has been distributed widely around the Web since its release in June 2006. The most popular words framing blog posts on his talk? "Everyone should watch this."
A visionary cultural leader, Sir Ken led the British government's 1998 advisory committee on creative and cultural education, a massive inquiry into the significance of creativity in the educational system and the economy, and was knighted in 2003 for his achievements. His 2009 book, The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything, is a New York Times bestseller and has been translated into 21 languages. A 10th anniversary edition of his classic work on creativity and innovation, Out of Our Minds: Learning to be Creative, was published in 2011. His 2013 book, Finding Your Element: How to Discover Your Talents and Passions and Transform Your Life, is a practical guide that answers questions about finding your personal Element. In his latest book, Creative Schools: The Grassroots Revolution That’s Transforming Education, he argues for an end to our outmoded industrial educational system and proposes a highly personalized, organic approach that draws on today’s unprecedented technological and professional resources to engage all students.
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