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Nigel Marsh: How to make work-life balance work
Nigel Marsh: Kako uravnotežiti delo in življenje
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Ravnotežje med delom in življenjem, pravi Nigel Marsh, je preveč pomembno, da bi ga prepustili rokam svojega delodajalca. Na TEDxSydney, Marsh predstavlja idealen dan, s pravo mero časa, posvečenega družini, sebi in produktivnosti - in ponuja nekaj vzpodbujajočih načinov, kako to doseči.
Nigel Marsh - Author and marketer
Nigel Marsh presents and writes on business and personal life -- and how the two interact. He is the author of "Fat, Forty and Fired." Full bio
Nigel Marsh presents and writes on business and personal life -- and how the two interact. He is the author of "Fat, Forty and Fired." Full bio
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What I thought I would do
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Mislil sem začeti tako,
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is I would start with a simple request.
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da bi vas prosil za nekaj preprostega.
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I'd like all of you
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Prosil bi vas, da vsi
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to pause for a moment,
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za trenutek obstanete,
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you wretched weaklings,
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vi nesrečni slabotneži,
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and take stock of your miserable existence.
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in analizirate svoj beden obstoj.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Now that was the advice
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To je bil nasvet,
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that St. Benedict gave his rather startled followers
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ki ga je sv. Benedikt dal svojim precej vznemirjenim privržencem
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in the fifth century.
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v petem stoletju.
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It was the advice that I decided to follow myself
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To je bil nasvet, ki sem se ga odločil slediti,
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when I turned 40.
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ko sem dopolnil 40 let.
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Up until that moment, I had been that classic corporate warrior --
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Do takrat sem bil klasičen korporacijski bojevnik -
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I was eating too much, I was drinking too much,
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jedel sem preveč, pil sem preveč,
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I was working too hard
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preveč sem delal
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and I was neglecting the family.
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in zanemarjal družino.
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And I decided that I would try
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Odločil sem se, da poskusim
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and turn my life around.
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spremeniti svoje življenje.
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In particular, I decided
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Konkretneje, odločil sem se,
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I would try to address the thorny issue
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da poskusim rešiti mučen problem
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of work-life balance.
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ravnotežja med delom in življenjem.
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So I stepped back from the workforce,
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Izstopil sem iz delovne sile
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and I spent a year at home
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in preživel leto dni doma
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with my wife and four young children.
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z mojo ženi in s štirimi otroki.
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But all I learned about work-life balance
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Vse kar sem se naučil o ravnotežju med delom
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from that year
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in življenjem v tem letu
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was that I found it quite easy
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je bilo to, da je dokaj preprosto
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to balance work and life
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uravnotežiti delo in življenje,
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when I didn't have any work.
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ko nisem imel dela.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Not a very useful skill,
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Nič kaj uporabna veščina,
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especially when the money runs out.
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posebej ko zmanjka denarja.
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So I went back to work,
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Tako sem šel spet v službo,
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and I've spent these seven years since
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in posvetil sedem let
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struggling with, studying
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boju, preučevanju
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and writing about work-life balance.
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in pisanju o ravnotežju med delom in življenjem.
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And I have four observations
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Prišel sem do štirih ugotovitev,
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I'd like to share with you today.
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ki bi jih danes želel deliti z vami.
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The first is:
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Prva je ta, če želi
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if society's to make any progress on this issue,
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družba doseči kakšen napredek pri temu vprašanju,
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we need an honest debate.
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rabimo iskreno debato.
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But the trouble is
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Problem pa je,
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so many people talk so much rubbish
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da mnogo ljudi govori veliko neumnosti
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about work-life balance.
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o ravnotežju med delom in življenjem.
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All the discussions about flexi-time
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Vse te diskusije o fleksibilnem času,
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or dress-down Fridays
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ali modno sproščenih petkih,
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or paternity leave
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ali očetovskem dopustu,
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only serve to mask the core issue,
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služijo le maskiranju primarnega problema,
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which is
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ki je,
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that certain job and career choices
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da nekatere službe in karierne izbire
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are fundamentally incompatible
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nikakor ne omogočajo
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with being meaningfully engaged
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vsakodnevnega posvečanja
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on a day-to-day basis
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polne pozornosti
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with a young family.
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vaši mladi družini.
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Now the first step in solving any problem
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Prvi korak k reševanju kateregakoli problema
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is acknowledging the reality of the situation you're in.
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je zavedanje realne situacije v kateri ste.
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And the reality of the society that we're in
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In realnost današnje družbe v kateri živimo
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is there are thousands and thousands
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je takšna, da obstaja tisoče in tisoče
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of people out there
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ljudi okoli nas,
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leading lives of quiet, screaming desperation,
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ki živijo v tihem, a kričečem obupu,
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where they work long, hard hours
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v katerem delajo dolge, naporne ure
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at jobs they hate
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v službah, ki jih sovražijo,
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to enable them to buy things they don't need
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da si potem lahko kupujejo stvari, ki ji ne rabijo,
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to impress people they don't like.
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da bi naredili vtis na ljudi, ki jih ne marajo.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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(Applause)
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(aplavz)
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It's my contention that going to work on Friday in jeans and [a] T-shirt
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Moje mnenje je, da se petkov odhod na delo v kavbojkah in majici
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isn't really getting to the nub of the issue.
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v resnici ne dotika bistva problema.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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The second observation I'd like to make
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Drugo odkritje, ki bi ga rad delil,
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is we need to face the truth
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je to da, se moramo soočiti z resnico,
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that governments and corporations
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ki je, da vlade in korporacije
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aren't going to solve this issue for us.
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ne bodo rešile tega problema namesto nas.
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We should stop looking outside.
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Moramo prenehati gledati navzven;
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It's up to us as individuals
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mi kot posamezniki
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to take control and responsibility
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moramo prevzeti kontrolo in odgovornost
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for the type of lives that we want to lead.
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za način življenja, ki si ga želimo živeti.
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If you don't design your life,
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Če ne boste sami kreirali svojega življenja,
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someone else will design it for you,
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ga bo namesto vas nekdo drug
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and you may just not like
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in mogoče vam ne bo ravno všeč
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their idea of balance.
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njihova ideja o ravnotežju.
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It's particularly important --
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Zelo je pomembno -
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this isn't on the World Wide Web, is it? I'm about to get fired --
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tega ni na internetu, kajne ... dobil bom odpoved -
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it's particularly important
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zelo je pomembno,
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that you never put the quality of your life
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da nikoli ne prepustite kvalitete vašega življenja
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in the hands of a commercial corporation.
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v roke komercialnim korporacijam.
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Now I'm not talking here just about the bad companies --
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Ne govorim samo o slabih podjetjih -
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the "abattoirs of the human soul," as I call them.
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klavnicah človeških duš, kot jih poimenujem.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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I'm talking about all companies.
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Govorim o vseh podjetjih.
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Because commercial companies
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Kajti komercialna podjetja
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are inherently designed
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so oblikovana tako,
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to get as much out of you [as]
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da vzamejo od vas toliko
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they can get away with.
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kolikor lahko.
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It's in their nature; it's in their DNA;
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To je v njihovi naravi, v njihovem DNK,
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it's what they do --
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to je tisto kar delajo
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even the good, well-intentioned companies.
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celo dobra podjetja z dobrimi nameni.
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On the one hand,
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Po eni strani
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putting childcare facilities in the workplace
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je dati otroke v skrbništvo na delovnem mestu
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is wonderful and enlightened.
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čudovito in razsvetljujoče.
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On the other hand, it's a nightmare --
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Po drugi strani, pa je to nočna mora,
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it just means you spend more time at the bloody office.
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ker to pomeni, da preživiš več časa v prekleti pisarni.
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We have to be responsible
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Moramo biti odgovorni
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for setting and enforcing
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za oblikovanje in uveljavljanje
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the boundaries that we want in our life.
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svojih okvirov, ki si jih želimo v življenju.
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The third observation is
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Tretja ugotovitev je,
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we have to be careful
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da moramo biti previdni
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with the time frame that we choose
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kateri časovni termin izberemo,
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upon which to judge our balance.
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na podlagi katerega ocenjujemo naše ravnotežje.
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Before I went back to work
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Preden sem šel nazaj v službo,
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after my year at home,
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po letu dni doma,
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I sat down
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sem se usedel
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and I wrote out
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in zapisal
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a detailed, step-by-step description
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natančen, postopen opis
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of the ideal balanced day
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svojega idealno uravnoteženega dneva
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that I aspired to.
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po katerem sem hrepenel.
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And it went like this:
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Bil je takšen:
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wake up well rested
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Zbuditi se spočit
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after a good night's sleep.
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po dobro prespani noči.
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Have sex.
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Seksati.
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Walk the dog.
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Sprehoditi psa.
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Have breakfast with my wife and children.
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Pozajtrkovati s svojo ženo in otroki.
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Have sex again.
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Spet seksati.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Drive the kids to school on the way to the office.
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Odpeljati otroke v šolo na poti v službo.
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Do three hours' work.
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Delati tri ure.
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Play a sport with a friend at lunchtime.
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Športati s prijateljem v času kosila.
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Do another three hours' work.
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Spet delati tri ure.
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Meet some mates in the pub for an early evening drink.
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Srečati se s prijatelji v lokalu na večerni pijači.
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Drive home for dinner
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Odpeljati se domov na večerjo
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with my wife and kids.
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z mojo ženo in otroki.
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Meditate for half an hour.
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Meditirati pol ure.
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Have sex.
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Seksati.
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Walk the dog. Have sex again.
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Sprehoditi psa. Spet seksati.
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Go to bed.
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Iti spat.
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(Applause)
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(aplavz)
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How often do you think I have that day?
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Kolikokrat mislite, da imam takšen dan?
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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We need to be realistic.
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Moramo biti realistični.
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You can't do it all in one day.
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Ne moremo vsega narediti v enem dnevu.
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We need to elongate the time frame
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Moramo razširiti časovni okvir,
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upon which we judge the balance in our life,
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na podlagi katerega ocenjujemo uravnoteženost našega življenja,
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but we need to elongate it
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vendar ga moramo razširiti,
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without falling into the trap
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ne da bi se pri tem ujeli v past:
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of the "I'll have a life when I retire,
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"Imel bom takšno življenje, ko se upokojim,
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when my kids have left home,
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ko se moji otroci odselijo,
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when my wife has divorced me, my health is failing,
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ko se z žena ločiva, ko me zdravje zapusti,
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I've got no mates or interests left."
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ko ne bom imel več nobenega prijatelja ali hobija."
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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A day is too short; "after I retire" is too long.
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Dan je prekratek, ko se bom upokojil, bo predolg.
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There's got to be a middle way.
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Tukaj mora biti srednja pot.
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A fourth observation:
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Četrta ugotovitev:
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We need to approach balance
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K uravnoteženosti moramo pristopiti
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in a balanced way.
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na uravnotežen način.
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A friend came to see me last year --
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Prejšnje leto me je obiskala prijateljica -
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and she doesn't mind me telling this story -- a friend came to see me last year
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ne bo mi zamerila, če povem to zgodbo - prijateljica me je obiskala prejšnje leto
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and said, "Nigel, I've read your book.
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in rekla: "Nigel, prebrala sem tvojo knjigo.
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And I realize that my life is completely out of balance.
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In ugotovila, da je moje življenje popolnoma neuravnoteženo.
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It's totally dominated by work.
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Popolnoma je podrejeno delu.
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I work 10 hours a day; I commute two hours a day.
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V službi sem 10 ur na dan, vozim se dve uri na dan.
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All of my relationships have failed.
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Vse moje zveze so propadle.
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There's nothing in my life
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Nič več ni ostalo v mojem življenju,
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apart from my work.
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razen moje službe.
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So I've decided to get a grip and sort it out.
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Tako sem se odločila, da zagrabim in uredim stvari.
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So I joined a gym."
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Vpisala sem se na vadbo."
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Now I don't mean to mock,
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Ne želim se posmehovati,
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but being a fit 10-hour-a-day office rat
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ampak biti 10 urna pisarniška miška v kondiciji
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isn't more balanced; it's more fit.
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ni uravnoteženost, ampak biti v boljši kondiciji.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
07:25
Lovely though physical exercise may be,
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Kakorkoli že je fizična vadba lahko prijetna,
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there are other parts to life --
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so tukaj tudi druge plati življenja.
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there's the intellectual side; there's the emotional side;
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Intelektualna plat, čustvena plat,
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there's the spiritual side.
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tukaj je tudi duhovna plat.
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And to be balanced,
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Da imamo uravnoteženo življenje,
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I believe we have to attend
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verjamem, da se moramo posvetiti
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to all of those areas --
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vsem tem platem -
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not just do 50 stomach crunches.
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ne le narediti 50 trebušnjakov.
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Now that can be daunting.
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To je lahko težko.
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Because people say, "Bloody hell mate, I haven't got time to get fit.
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Ljudje pravijo: "Prekleto prijatelj, nimam časa, da postanem fit;
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You want me to go to church and call my mother."
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ti želiš, da grem v cerkev in pokličem svojo mater."
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And I understand.
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In jaz razumem.
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I truly understand how that can be daunting.
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Resnično razumem, da je to lahko težko.
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But an incident that happened a couple of years ago
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Ampak, pred nekaj leti se mi je zgodilo nekaj,
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gave me a new perspective.
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kar mi je dalo nov pogled.
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My wife, who is somewhere in the audience today,
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Moja žena, ki je sedaj nekje v občinstvu,
08:03
called me up at the office
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me je poklicala iz pisarne
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and said, "Nigel, you need to pick our youngest son" --
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in rekla: "Nigel, danes moraš ti iti iskat najinega najmlajšega sina",
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Harry -- "up from school."
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Harry "iz šole".
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Because she had to be somewhere else with the other three children for that evening.
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Ker ona je morala biti tisti večer nekje drugje z ostalimi tremi otroki.
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So I left work an hour early that afternoon
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Tako sem tistega popoldneva odšel eno uro prej iz službe
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and picked Harry up at the school gates.
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in pred šolskimi vrati pobral Harrya.
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We walked down to the local park,
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Sprehodila sva se do krajevnega parka,
08:23
messed around on the swings, played some silly games.
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se zabavala na gugalnicah in se šla neke smešne igrice.
08:26
I then walked him up the hill to the local cafe,
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Nato sva odšla v lokalni bar na hribu,
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and we shared a pizza for two,
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skupaj jedla pico in pila čaj,
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then walked down the hill to our home,
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se sprehodila po hribu navzdol proti domu,
08:34
and I gave him his bath
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nato sem ga skopal
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and put him in his Batman pajamas.
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in ga oblekel v njegovo Batman pižamo.
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I then read him a chapter
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Nato sem mu prebral odlomek
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of Roald Dahl's "James and the Giant Peach."
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iz knjige Roalda Dahla "James in velikanska breskev".
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I then put him to bed, tucked him in,
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Nato sem ga polegel v posteljo, pokril,
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gave him a kiss on his forehead and said, "Goodnight, mate,"
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poljubil na čelo in rekel: "Lahko noč, prijatelj",
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and walked out of his bedroom.
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ter odšel iz njegove sobe.
08:50
As I was walking out of his bedroom,
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Ko sem odhajal iz njegove sobe,
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he said, "Dad?" I went, "Yes, mate?"
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mi je rekel: "Oče?", odvrnil sem: "Da, prijatelj?"
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He went, "Dad, this has been the best day
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Rekel je: "Oče, to je bil najboljši dan
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of my life, ever."
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v celem mojem življenju."
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I hadn't done anything,
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Nič nisem naredil -
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hadn't taken him to Disney World or bought him a Playstation.
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nisem ga peljal v Disney World ali mu kupil Playstation.
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Now my point is
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Moja poanta je,
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the small things matter.
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da male stvari štejejo.
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Being more balanced
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Imeti bolj uravnoteženo življenje
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doesn't mean dramatic upheaval in your life.
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ne pomeni dramatičnih preobratov v vašem življenju.
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With the smallest investment
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Z najmanjšim vlaganjem
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in the right places,
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na prava mesta
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you can radically transform the quality of your relationships
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lahko radikalno spremenite kvaliteto vaših odnosov
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and the quality of your life.
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in kvaliteto vašega življenja.
09:27
Moreover, I think,
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Še več, mislim,
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it can transform society.
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da to lahko spremeni družbo.
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Because if enough people do it,
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Ker, če to stori dovolj ljudi,
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we can change society's definition of success
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lahko spremenimo družbeno definicijo uspeha,
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away from the moronically simplistic notion
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daleč od bebavega družbenega koncepta,
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that the person with the most money when he dies wins,
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da je zmagovalec tisti, ki umre z največ denarja,
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to a more thoughtful and balanced definition
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v bolj premišljeno in uravnoteženo definicijo,
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of what a life well lived looks like.
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ki daje pomen izpopolnjenemu življenju.
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And that, I think,
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In to, mislim, da je
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is an idea worth spreading.
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ideja, ki jo je vredno širiti.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Nigel Marsh - Author and marketerNigel Marsh presents and writes on business and personal life -- and how the two interact. He is the author of "Fat, Forty and Fired."
Why you should listen
Nigel Marsh is the author of Fit, Fifty and Fired-Up, Fat, Forty and Fired and Overworked and Underlaid. He's the chairman of strategic research consultancy The Leading Edge and the co-founder of the energy-saving movement Earth Hour. Marsh also founded The Sydney Skinny.
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